Zenfolio? Pbase?

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I'm using Picasa online storage now but looking for a storage location without limits and a good track record for file archiving. I am trying the trial of Zenfolio now and it seems pretty good. Anyone want to weigh in?
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Himm
 
I happen to think Zenfolio looks great too but Pbase has a larger image capability. Fills the whole screen. Some don't want images to appear too big but clients seem to love the larger versions from what I have found.



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Mel
 
Althought Zen looks nicer on the surface, I find it loads too much for its own good (dial up user here).

I find PBase is 'lighter' in content, loads faster and still fulfills itself very nicely as an image hosting package. The user base is large and offers a lot to see from a wide array of different photographers and subject matter.

Over all, rock solid and I am completely satisfied!
Just my ¢ 0.02 (CAD)

Cheers,

NRG
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F/8 and be there.
http://www.pbase.com/nrg_alpha/
 
I like pbase.. because when you're in the 'original' (largest) size, you can still scroll through them by just clicking on 'next.'

Unless I'm missing something, with Zen Folio (and Flicker) you have to keep going back to the gallery, and clicking again in order to bring up the largest image. I find that time consuming, frustrating, and I'm much less likely to spend time looking through those galleries

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'Consciousness is just a form of mischief matter can create.'
 
I don't know if you're a professional looking to woo clients or just a hobbyist who would email links to friends here and there. If you're the latter I would look into Flickr's pro account. It is $24.95 a year with no limits on storage, bandwidth, or number of albums.

You can't take away their interface, but I find it to be quite nice. It becomes far more helpful as a backup system when you use some of the programs built on their API to upload and download large amounts of files.

For now it fits my bill and the price can't be beat.

-Bill

I don't have a ton of experience with Smugmug, but I'd give them a look as well. they are more like a pbase/zenfolio setup and they have a scalable system that would prob meet your needs.

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http://flickr.com/photos/mcbill
 
I just did this a few weeks ago, I had Picasa also, and I did not like having all the "words" around my photos. I cut the pay for play list down to Zen, pbase or sumgmug. Want I did was to look at the different folios listed by the posters on this (I use a D200) fourm.

I liked the look of Zen the most. I did the $40/year I have been putting my last 7 years of "stuff" mostly travel, so far I have about 4,500 photos at close to 8 Gbit. (I now save photoshop JPEGs at "9" a hint I found on Zen.

It is slower than I would like, but I thank the upload speed is due more to my cable, not Zen. With all the photos I have it now takes about 3 to 4 minutes for a new folder to be ready to take the photos then I upload at about 3 Meg/min.

Does this help?

Mike
I'm using Picasa online storage now but looking for a storage
location without limits and a good track record for file archiving. I
am trying the trial of Zenfolio now and it seems pretty good. Anyone
want to weigh in?
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Himm
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If you have low standards, you can take a look:
http://michaeljberman.zenfolio.com
 
I like pbase.. because when you're in the 'original' (largest) size,
you can still scroll through them by just clicking on 'next.'

Unless I'm missing something, with Zen Folio (and Flicker) you have
to keep going back to the gallery, and clicking again in order to
bring up the largest image. I find that time consuming, frustrating,
and I'm much less likely to spend time looking through those galleries
Zenfolio has slide show instead. Displays large size (1100 horizontal pixels).

You can link to any size that has public permission defined. Zenfolio caches images before display, so that images usually appears instantaneously.

Opposed to what appears to be the case with PBase, Zenfolio has image resizing algorithms that are very usable. Most seasoned Pbase users appear to downsize to the display size before uploading. I do not find that necessary with Zenfolio.

My Zenfolio account:
http://otoien.zenfolio.com
 
I am also considering one of these sites and have the trial Pbase. So what starting file size are you refering to that can be uploaded to Zen? My jpegs usually run 2848 X 4288. Am I understanding you correctly that files such as this can be uploaded directly without resizing? I suppose I can try their trial account too and see for myself. But is has been my thinking that everything must be downsized on these type sites.
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Mel
 
Oh, ok.. you're right. That's pretty much the same thing as just scrolling through the images on pbase. I also like that the slide show can be speeded up, slowed down, or paused. I like to go through quickly, and stop and study just a few.

Once in 'original' mode, in pbase, though, every image I click on (even after having switched to another person's gallery) stays in 'original' mode. I like that!
I like pbase.. because when you're in the 'original' (largest) size,
you can still scroll through them by just clicking on 'next.'

Unless I'm missing something, with Zen Folio (and Flicker) you have
to keep going back to the gallery, and clicking again in order to
bring up the largest image. I find that time consuming, frustrating,
and I'm much less likely to spend time looking through those galleries
Zenfolio has slide show instead. Displays large size (1100 horizontal
pixels).
You can link to any size that has public permission defined. Zenfolio
caches images before display, so that images usually appears
instantaneously.

Opposed to what appears to be the case with PBase, Zenfolio has
image resizing algorithms that are very usable. Most seasoned Pbase
users appear to downsize to the display size before uploading. I do
not find that necessary with Zenfolio.

My Zenfolio account:
http://otoien.zenfolio.com
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'Consciousness is just a form of mischief matter can create.'
 
michaeljberman wrote:
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It is slower than I would like, but I think the upload speed is due
more to my cable, not Zen. With all the photos I have it now takes
about 3 to 4 minutes for a new folder to be ready to take the photos
then I upload at about 3 Meg/min.
Mike, It sounds like your internet upload bandwidth is way slower than your download bandwidth, and this is typical of most home internet access providers. The same is true for my Verizon ADSL account.

When I have massive photo volume for upload to zenfolio, I haul my files into the office (on a 4GB SDHC card), and upload from there (10MB/sec is a wonderful thing). I can say,l from personal experience, that zenfolio has ample upload bandwidth capacity if you can take advantage of it.
-- Bob Elkind
Family,in/outdoor sports, landscape, wildlife
photo galleries at http://eteam.zenfolio.com
my relationship with my camera is strictly photonic
 
I have a pbase gallery, and a couple of my images are 3872 X 2592 jpegs. One is 6.8MB and the other is 2.2MB. I guess I compressed one more than the other. :-)

It's true though, i generally resize my images myself, at the resolution at which I want them viewed. I've started doing two sizes of each, one for regular sized screens, and another for the larger LDC screens. Only the 'originals' show up as different sizes though. The others (the thumbnails) are compressed and downsized to pbase standard sizes.

http://www.pbase.com/avertedvision/inbox
I am also considering one of these sites and have the trial Pbase. So
what starting file size are you refering to that can be uploaded to
Zen? My jpegs usually run 2848 X 4288. Am I understanding you
correctly that files such as this can be uploaded directly without
resizing? I suppose I can try their trial account too and see for
myself. But is has been my thinking that everything must be downsized
on these type sites.
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Mel
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'Consciousness is just a form of mischief matter can create.'
 
1. cost -- $35/yr (after referral discount), unlimited storage and bandwidth

2. it's simple enough even my friends and tech-challenged family can figure it out.

3. you can post pictures from zenfolio to postings on this forum, in a variety of scaled sizes (including un-scaled full-res), and basic EXIF data is embedded for all to access.

4. Zenfolio has a neat tool for downloading the original files you have stashed on zenfolio. That makes zenfolio a backup repository, of sorts.

5. I really like that zenfolio tech support responds to my emails with thoughtful responses.

I haven't tried any of the other, competitive services (pbase, smugmug, etc.)

To be honest, cost was what got me hooked on zenfolio. All the other reasons are why I've renewed with zenfolio and I recommend zenfolio to my friends and family.

-- Bob Elkind
Family,in/outdoor sports, landscape, wildlife
photo galleries at http://eteam.zenfolio.com
my relationship with my camera is strictly photonic
 
Why is it then that I have never seen an offering from Zenfolio such as this Pbase sample in original? Is it just that many posters choose not to show the larger size?



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Mel
 
Most of my D200 images at my site is uploaded at the full size. The maximum file size is 10 MB as I recall.
 

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