Canon S9000 and Epson 1280

Some of you may know I have both printers, in an earlier thread I said I personally prefer the Epson 1280 because of the slightly blacker blacks it can print (it could be due to the bulk inks I'm using). I personally still like the Epson. I can do perfect 13" x 19" borderless and superlong banners.

I recommend both printers, however if pricing on the two models are similar, which they are at the present, I give the higher recommendation to the Canon S9000 because it is much faster, a bit quieter, very easy to refill inks, and prints great.

I've shown many various "best" prints from both printers to friends, they love them all equally. The blacker black ink issue is no issue to ANY of them, even though they do notice it when I point it out.

A quick tip to S9000 users who want their pictures to pop off the paper, simply use the intensity setting (+10 or even higher if you want), works very well.

Cheers!
Jim

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Jim J. C. said:

A quick tip to S9000 users who want their pictures to pop off the
paper, simply use the intensity setting (+10 or even higher if you
want), works very well.

Cheers!
Jim

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I turned down the intensity (-5) because the colors were oversaturated.

JF

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

you may want to clarify. if you are gonna make such statements, you may want to provide the reasons why. Sure, some ppl have problems with Epsons, some do not. Some ppl have problems with Canon or HP, some don't. From my personal experience neither HP nor Canon are anything to write home about, and Lexmark is just plain pitiful

gail said:

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson
printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more
than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

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Hi, I would guess that head clogging during cartridge replacement, and the inability to just refill the cartridges with ink (because of the electronic chip on each cartridge), and maybe head clogging during general use of the printer are the main grips some owners of the 1280 would have.

grrick said:

gail said:

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson
printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more
than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

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Well, I think you'll find complaints with just about every brand. The chip thing is just Epson making money. Considering the discounts they give on some printers, like the $100 off on the 785epx, I doubt they make any profit on the hardware. They make money on their papers and ink. Just like when you go to mcdonalds, everyone always complains about how high the soft drink prices are. That is where mcdonalds profit is..the soft drinks. There may be a good reason for them having you change the ink b4 the cartridge is completely empty. It may have an adverse affect on the print head if they let the ink go out completely, like buring out the print head. HP has ripped ppl off by not supplying a fully filled ink cart on some of their printers. I owned a Canon a long time ago, it was always grabbing more than 1 piece of paper. I think people expect to much. Epson gives 1 yr warranty, ppl need to take advantage of that if a problem arises. HP has 90 day on some of their models. I'd have to say they don't have much faith in their product

Jim J. C. said:

grrick said:

gail said:

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson
printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more
than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

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grrick said:

gail said:

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson
printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more
than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

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I've well-documented my experiences with the Epson 780 in these forums. I am going to literally smash it on the ground when I get a replacement printer. May mail a few pieces to Epson headquarters.

After studying in these forums for some time, I've decided to buy a new Canon. I was so " burned" by purchasing Epson's product when it first came out, that I'm going to go more slowly this time. I will never again permit myself to jump on the bandwagon so quickly before purchasing a poduct just placed on the market.

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never again permit myself to jump on the bandwagon so quickly
before purchasing a poduct just placed on the market.

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Correction:

I will never again permit myself to jump on the bandwagon so quickly BY purchasing a poduct just placed on the market.

gail said:

I've well-documented my experiences with the Epson 780 in these
forums. I am going to literally smash it on the ground when I get a
replacement printer. May mail a few pieces to Epson headquarters.

After studying in these forums for some time, I've decided to buy a
new Canon. I was so " burned" by purchasing Epson's product when it
first came out, that I'm going to go more slowly this time. I will
never again permit myself to jump on the bandwagon so quickly
before purchasing a poduct just placed on the market.

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I can vouch for that. What are you using now, Gail?

Hi Terry,

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I can vouch for that. What are you using now, Gail?

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I think I'm going to buy the new Canon 900, but am also giving some serious thought to the earlier 800. So far, I like what I read (forgot the exact model #'s).

Unfortunately, I still have the 780. I made a mistake of purchasing a lot of ink cartridges at one time. Today, I actually inserted the last black one. Then, it's outa here.

Not too many places in my area carry Canons printers yet. I really do want to see it before I buy one. I've waited this long...what's another month or two.

Gail

gail said:

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I can vouch for that. What are you using now, Gail?

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I think I'm going to buy the new Canon 900, but am also giving some
serious thought to the earlier 800. So far, I like what I read
(forgot the exact model #'s).

Unfortunately, I still have the 780. I made a mistake of purchasing
a lot of ink cartridges at one time. Today, I actually inserted the
last black one. Then, it's outa here.

Not too many places in my area carry Canons printers yet. I really
do want to see it before I buy one. I've waited this long...what's
another month or two.

Gail

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Some of the Ritz Camera stores still have the Canon S800 in stock. They also allow you to return the printer within 30 days for a full refund. I'm thinking along those lines myself. I just need to find out how much difference there is between the 800 and 820 and 900. Good luck to ya!
BTW, I still have those pictures you sent me that your father took.

Terry Thorn said:

gail said:

Member said:

I can vouch for that. What are you using now, Gail?

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I think I'm going to buy the new Canon 900, but am also giving some
serious thought to the earlier 800. So far, I like what I read
(forgot the exact model #'s).

Unfortunately, I still have the 780. I made a mistake of purchasing
a lot of ink cartridges at one time. Today, I actually inserted the
last black one. Then, it's outa here.

Not too many places in my area carry Canons printers yet. I really
do want to see it before I buy one. I've waited this long...what's
another month or two.

Gail

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Some of the Ritz Camera stores still have the Canon S800 in stock.
They also allow you to return the printer within 30 days for a full
refund. I'm thinking along those lines myself. I just need to find
out how much difference there is between the 800 and 820 and 900.
Good luck to ya!
BTW, I still have those pictures you sent me that your father took.

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The S820 improves on the S800 with a completely new head design and manufacturing process. It also adds borderless printing (Major plus if you ever want to print 4x6 photos. The S900 has twice the number of nozzles and thus is twice as fast as the S820 - same quality and head design.

Don't get me wrong, I really like my 1280. A tip for those who use cartridges (refill or brand new), if a nozzle check shows blockage after cartridge installation, just wait an hour (if you can), then do a nozzle check, then a clean cycle if necessary. If you continuously clean and clean right away after installation, it may not work and you're losing a lot of ink. This is the only problem I've had, and now that I've got a CFS installed, this problem is gone.

From personal experience over the last year with a couple of Epson photo printers and a couple of HP PhotRET 3 based printers, I would tend to say that HP is less likely to have problems. But adding a CFS or refilling the HP carts repeatedly is impossible because the printheads don't last long. Photo printing is very good with HP but not in the same league as Epson or this new Canon 9000 that I've got (decided to keep for now).

regards,
Jim

John R480 said:

The S820 improves on the S800 with a completely new head design and
manufacturing process. It also adds borderless printing (Major plus
if you ever want to print 4x6 photos. The S900 has twice the number
of nozzles and thus is twice as fast as the S820 - same quality and
head design.

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Thanks for that information. I was looking at the S820 and S900 and came to the conclusion that printing speed was the only difference I could ascertain.

gail said:

Sorry, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend an Epson
printer...and am saying that after being an Espon customer for more
than 10 years. buyer beware....gail

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Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with your printer, but that doesn't mirror everyone else's experience with Epson, including mine. I've had a 870 for > 2 years, no major problems. I would highly recommend Epson.

Mark

Hi Terry,

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BTW, I still have those pictures you sent me that your father took.

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I went to FotoFusion several weeks ago and had them evaluated by a phots expert who frequently appears on Antique Road show. Found out two have value...the one of Ronald Regan at WMGM radio, and the one's taken of Ebbet's Field in Brooklyn. All were taken by my dad.

How's that adorable little gir!l? Still taking lots of beautiful pix of her?

Gail

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Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with your printer, but that
doesn't mirror everyone else's experience with Epson, including
mine. I've had a 870 for > 2 years, no major problems. I would
highly recommend Epson.

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Mark,

I never said my experiences mirrored everyone else's. I just said I would never recommend an Epson after my experience. Seems a good amount of other folk in these forums have had many of the same problems.

As an aside, I"ve had two Epson 600s, close to a decade old. Still chuggin' along. They are hardly ever used, left for long times between usage, great photo quality...never had one problem with either other than a routine, occassional head cleaning.

Still, Epson has so lost my confidence that I will never* buy another printer from them if it was the only printer in the world. I'd go back to B & W film before they'd ever get a penny from me.

Gail