Photoshop 7 Canon Plug-in & Mac OS X

There has been some cautionary language from Adobe that users of PS 7.0 with Mac OS X.1.x should expect to see a high percentage of plug-ins break in the transition over from OS 9. Typically, there is little additional detail as to what. Does anyone know what we can expect by way of Canon's Digital Camera Plugin? Has anyone heard a statement from Canon as to whether there will be a compatable update by PS release time or are OS X / Canon users still be relegated to booting into OS 9 for image downloading (since the plugin doesnt work with Classic)?

Cheers,
Mitch

Canon has said in the past and on their website that they intend to support OSX, but they have said it in vague language with no timeline.

I haven't had a problem with the Canon digicam software for my G1 - it works for me under classic. Same with the driver for my Canon 2400 scanner. (Tho my 2710 won't work under classic at all, sigh)

Mind you, if Image Capture could figure out how to handle Canon's raw files, I wouldn't need Canon's software at all

MF Burt said:

There has been some cautionary language from Adobe that users of PS
7.0 with Mac OS X.1.x should expect to see a high percentage of
plug-ins break in the transition over from OS 9. Typically, there
is little additional detail as to what. Does anyone know what we
can expect by way of Canon's Digital Camera Plugin? Has anyone
heard a statement from Canon as to whether there will be a
compatable update by PS release time or are OS X / Canon users
still be relegated to booting into OS 9 for image downloading
(since the plugin doesnt work with Classic)?

Cheers,
Mitch

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Charles Bandes said:

I haven't had a problem with the Canon digicam software for my G1 -
it works for me under classic. Same with the driver for my Canon
2400 scanner. (Tho my 2710 won't work under classic at all, sigh)

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Import from an EOS-1D is completely non-functional in Classic, so perhaps this is just limited to FireWire devices....? Plugging an iPod in while in Classic can cause a really lovely kernal panic so this would seem to be consistant evidencd that FireWire is at minimum buggy via Classic.

I work with both a D30 and a S30, both work well with OS X. I plug in the USB, chose where I want the file to go and boom, done. The nice thing with RAW files is that it only pulls off what is needed and allows me to see a preview. I have yet to recieve my copy of Photoshop 7, but I will probably just pull from folders after RAW conversion.

Does that help?--Rob Hephner

I appreciate your input, but it actually does not address the issue. I am specifically interesting in transfer support for the EOS-1D, which is a FireWire device, not USB. Apple's Image Capture application does not support FireWire devices at the moment so that leaves the Photoshop plug-in. As of this writing, successful transfer from an EOS-1D via Photoshop requires one to be in OS 9.x, and its a pain. Hence, the question about compatibility of existing plug-ins with PS 7 in OS X. Still no answer forthcoming from Canon.

Rob Hephner said:

I work with both a D30 and a S30, both work well with OS X. I plug
in the USB, chose where I want the file to go and boom, done. The
nice thing with RAW files is that it only pulls off what is needed
and allows me to see a preview. I have yet to recieve my copy of
Photoshop 7, but I will probably just pull from folders after RAW
conversion.

Does that help?

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First of all Photoshop 7 hasn't been released as of yet...so this is not a fair question....as to...present use....
To MF Burt

I would suggest to you that you do what other people do...get yourself a card reader (Firewire or USB) this method is by far more convienent than plugging in your camera, you take out the card & plug it into the cardreader & then plug it into the (Firewire port or USB port ) and viola you have a instant connection whether in OS 9 (Classic) or OS X....then tranfer the card's info to a hard drive then either use the plug-in in PS 6 (as PS 7 isn't out yet) or use Canon's Imagebrowser, they both work in OS X under Classic.

I hope this helps you
Jon J. Both (Edgeman) Mac user.

MF Burt said:

Rob Hephner said:

I work with both a D30 and a S30, both work well with OS X. I plug
in the USB, chose where I want the file to go and boom, done. The
nice thing with RAW files is that it only pulls off what is needed
and allows me to see a preview. I have yet to recieve my copy of
Photoshop 7, but I will probably just pull from folders after RAW
conversion.

Does that help?

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Jon J. Both (Edgeman) said:

First of all Photoshop 7 hasn't been released as of yet...so this
is not a fair question....as to...present use....

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So I'm supposed to wait until PS 7 is out to do research as to whether or not it will meet my needs and how it will fit in my workflow? Give me a break.

Member said:

I hope this helps you

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No, it doesn't help because you obviously don't understand the question. It has nothing to do with file transfer and everything to do with being able to read and process the file once it is on your computer.

The only software out for the Macintosh right now that reads 1D files is the Canon Photoshop Plug-in. Without the plug-in, the files can't be read no matter how you got them on your hard drive to being with.

Personally, I have PS 7 on order and was planning to switch to OS X as soon as it arrived. If the Canon Plug-in will not work with OS X, I will probably not do this. I don't want to have to switch back and forth to Classic -- getting used to OS X is going to be enough work.

Marie

Marie...you are full of sh--t you do not have PS 7 on order as it hasn't been released as of yet ...and yes you will have to wait until then, those are the facts, up to this point & who says it won't work....so you can't possibly know what is going to work & what is not...so drop your Freemont, CA bull sh--t attitude..& go back to listening to KPIG on your radio BTW a great station, as to learning OS X it's a snap to learn for anybody with a open mind, maybe that's why you'll have a very hard time with that ..besides I wasn't answering your post was I?????

Jon J. Both (Edgeman)

Marie H. said:

Jon J. Both (Edgeman) said:

First of all Photoshop 7 hasn't been released as of yet...so this
is not a fair question....as to...present use....

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So I'm supposed to wait until PS 7 is out to do research as to
whether or not it will meet my needs and how it will fit in my
workflow? Give me a break.

Marie H. said:

I hope this helps you

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No, it doesn't help because you obviously don't understand the
question. It has nothing to do with file transfer and everything to
do with being able to read and process the file once it is on your
computer.

The only software out for the Macintosh right now that reads 1D
files is the Canon Photoshop Plug-in. Without the plug-in, the
files can't be read no matter how you got them on your hard drive
to being with.

Personally, I have PS 7 on order and was planning to switch to OS X
as soon as it arrived. If the Canon Plug-in will not work with OS
X, I will probably not do this. I don't want to have to switch back
and forth to Classic -- getting used to OS X is going to be enough
work.

Marie

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How rude.

As to who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't:

a) You can pre-order PS 7 at the Apple Store.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/93/wo/5JPL70K9MIMbXuT5Bp3/1.5.0.3.30.12.1.5.1.13.0

b) Canon says their plug-in won't work in Mac OS X. I don't have to wait until PS 7 is out to know it won't work in Mac OS X as the people who wrote it know it doesn't work and have told us so.

As for the rest, it's too infantile to bother with....

I dunno, Marie. Seems you were rude first.

Someone actually took the time to try to give you an answer to a poorly worded query, and you got sorta snappish.

Yah, his response was a bit harsh, but that seems to be the atmosphere in webforums these days.

Marie H. said:

How rude.

As to who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't:

a) You can pre-order PS 7 at the Apple Store.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/93/wo/5JPL70K9MIMbXuT5Bp3/1.5.0.3.30.12.1.5.1.13.0

b) Canon says their plug-in won't work in Mac OS X. I don't have to
wait until PS 7 is out to know it won't work in Mac OS X as the
people who wrote it know it doesn't work and have told us so.

As for the rest, it's too infantile to bother with....

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I'm not sure where all the vitupertiveness came from, but I'm afraid that there is some misunderstanding. This issue appears to be unique to the EOS-1D.

Julie is correct in her assesment of my question, however snarky her tone may have been.

It is indeed quite possible to have Photoshop 7 on order as I have done so myself. Now, it won't ship until release date sometime in April, so I suppose one could argue that we actually have it on PRE-order, but only if one really gets a thrill out of polemics. I am also at a loss as to why questioning whether a third-party will natively support a product whose specifications have already been released is somehow "unfair".

As for Jon's input, I appreciate your thoughts and I'll look into FireWire card readers, though I am informed that this really won't address the OS X issue as drivers for these devices are reported as probelmatic. I am happy to be re-informed on this issue. But more to the point - I don't think any of those options will allow me to retain the post-exposure + - 2 stop compensation allowed via Canon's RAW format and plug-in. The advantages of this system are such that I simply won't abandon it. If I'm wrong on this, PLEASE do me the favor of setting me straight. I'll send you chocolates.

As it stands right now, EOS-1D owners must switch to OS 9.x to do their transfers from within Photoshop. They are then free to switch back to OS X and do their photoediting in Photoshop via Classic, but this is a kludge. It is also a source of lost time.

After happily spending 95% of my time over the past 3 months in OS X (and it still needs some optimizations and nudges), the time spent revisiting OS 9.x (or my Windows 98 and W2K machines) is a fair sampling of Hell!! All I want to know is whether the release of Photoshop 7 will allow me to finally remove OS 9 from my production machine altogether or whether we will still be waiting for a plug-in from Canon.

"Vitupertiveness?" That's certainly a five-dollar word, for sure. If this were that game with the letter tiles and whatnot, i'd have to challenge. Don't have a dictionary handy, though. So, i guess we're on the honor system....

Firewire device drivers aren't solid on OSX at this time. Might be awhile for some. USB is not problematic with OSX.

Remember, these firewire devices which are used as plug-ins for PS, AE or others, really won't work in OSX or classic. Must be 9.X
bartone

RolandKorg said:

I dunno, Marie. Seems you were rude first.

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If you say so... then I apologize.

While I still feel like the original poster is a jerk even from his very first message (and definitely the later), I could have been more neutral in my response and thus not contributed to the general nastiness that seems prevalent around here lately.

RolandKorg said:

Yah, his response was a bit harsh, but that seems to be the
atmosphere in webforums these days.

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One some of them anyway. I've certainly been on forums were you get banned for using the words he did.

Marie