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No ultra-wide lenses for the Mark III?

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Gary Dean said:
I wonder how many people craving a new Mark III will figure that
out AFTER they buy one...
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I brought this subject up in a post some months back about the 1D series with the 1.3x crop factor. Of course, if an APS-C super-wide such at the Canon 10-22mm, Sigma 10-20mm, Tamron 11-18mm, etc. can cover the 1.3x sensor then no problem. I read some time back that the Tamron 11-18mm when set to 14-18mm covers a full-frame sensor so with a 1.3x sensor it would probably be more like 12-18mm or 13-18mm. I heard the Sigma 10-20mm has a pretty tight image circle (I have one for my 30D), but don't know about the Canon 10-22mm. I suggest you investigate this because it is the only option right now.

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Henry Richardson
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As you know I came from 1.6x camera. So my 17-40 now is even wider with the 1DIIN.

Heck, I use my 17-40L for this:



So as is always the case-------to each their own :-)

Cheers,

José
Henry Richardson said:
It is not that the 17-40mm or 16-35mm won't mount on or operate on
the 1dIII. It is that with the 1.3x crop factor they are no longer
very wide. Sheesh.

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Henry Richardson
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It's an honour to take pictures of beautiful women with my 1DIIN and the portraiture lens grand sLam
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/favorite_poses
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_1dmk2n
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_30and20d
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As usual, a beautiful photo of a beautiful woman.

Here are some examples where it is fun to user a super wide.

10mm (effective fov 16mm):



20mm on 35mm film camera:



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Henry Richardson
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Henry,

You know how much I like your travel and PJ-style photos and the first one does not disappoint. I think I commented on the second one already but I thought it was in colour? Anyway, love the mono conversion.

You are correct, there is no OEM super wide zoom lens for a 1.3 cropper. If I was dead serious about landscapes, I would have picked up a 14L by now.

Cheers,

José
Henry Richardson said:
As usual, a beautiful photo of a beautiful woman.

Here are some examples where it is fun to user a super wide.

10mm (effective fov 16mm):



20mm on 35mm film camera:



--
Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com
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It's an honour to take pictures of beautiful women with my 1DIIN and the portraiture lens grand sLam
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/favorite_poses
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_1dmk2n
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_30and20d
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
 
Steven Noyes said:
And on a 1.3X crop, super wide still works great with the 16-35mm.
(Since it is an ultra-wide zoom even on the 1D series)
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Well, sorta, but Canon doesn't seem to agree. Canon says that a 16mm or 17mm is super wide:

Canon full-frame body: 16-35mm or 17-40mm
Canon APS-C body: 10-22mm (16mm fov)

Sigma also has:

full-frame: 12-24mm, 15-30mm
APS-C: 10-20mm

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Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com
 
Canon's own website says that this camera uses an EF mount for lenses. This means that the full line of EF lenses can be used. Both past and present versions. Both lenses that you mentioned are EF lenses, so they are compatible.

Where did you read that info? I am pretty sure you just misread it. But if not, please post a link to that article so we can be more informed.
 
Gary Dean said:
I just realized -- there is no Canon ultra-wide solution for the new
Mark III. You can't use the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L, or the Canon EF
17-40mm f/4.0 L.
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Of course you CAN use the above two lenses with any 1D cameras, the effective focal range will be 130% though,,, so 20mm-45mm will be the f2.8 angel of view..

Or you could buy the 14mm rectilinear for $1800 to get a wider apparent view of 17mm.

Or you can acquire the 5D for $2800+ and use your existing wide zooms

AND, EF-S lenses will NOT operate with any 1D cameras nor the 5D.
Gary Dean said:
Nor can you use the Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5.

Is there a non-Canon solution for this Camera?

What do people do for ultra-wide photography on the 1.3-crop cameras...?

This just hit me the othe
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r day while reading an article. That would
Gary Dean said:
be a real show-stopper for me, but maybe people buying the Mark III
aren't interested in ultra-wide?
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Steven Noyes said:
You claimed as "super-wide", was not?
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Yes, that's right. In 1994 20mm was super wide. In 2007, it isn't really. In the 1970s, say, 24mm would have been considered super wide. Things change and Canon is one of the companies doing the changing.
Steven Noyes said:
:-) But Canon has always started its ultra-wide as wider than 24mm and the 1D/Mk II/III do have an ultra-wide solution. Just not as wide as it is on FF.
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A 16-17mm fov is not the same as a 21mm fov. 21mm is darn wide, but not 16-17mm. You seem to be taking this personal and I can't imagine why.

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Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com
 
Gary Dean said:
I just realized -- there is no Canon ultra-wide solution for the new
Mark III. You can't use the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L, or the Canon EF
17-40mm f/4.0 L. Nor can you use the Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5.

Is there a non-Canon solution for this Camera?

What do people do for ultra-wide photography on the 1.3-crop cameras...?

This just hit me the other day while reading an article. That would
be a real show-stopper for me, but maybe people buying the Mark III
aren't interested in ultra-wide?
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If that was your point, then you formulated you post pretty awkward imho. You can clearly use the Canon 16-35mm f/2.8 (mkii). It will be a perfectly sharp lens into the corners of the 1D mkiii image according to my tests. I have a 5D and there is only a little less sharpness in the very corners at open apertures. Of course, you will have the 1.3 crop factor, but that is nothing new. If you want very wide you could also buy the Sigma 12-24mm which works on the 1D mkiii.

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Kind regards,
Hans Kruse
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http://www.photo.net/photos/hans.kruse
 
In order to get a sub-20mm effective fov your only choices right now are Sigma:

Sigma 12-24mm (effective fov 16mm)
Sigma 15-30mm (effective fov 20mm)

With Canon you just have:

Canon 16-35mm (effective fov 21mm)
Canon 17-40mm (effective fov 22mm)

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Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com
 
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