Greg Gebhardt
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stretched to the MAX now. There are physics involved here and the VIII can only do so much!
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Lumix FZ50 vs competition
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Every time a new super / ultra zoom comes out we get peppered with 'this may be the new king, put Pansonic out of business, blah blah blah.' Then we see the camera and find out the mfr didn't do their homework. For the life of me I can't understand why someone would pay the same price for another camera (as the FZ50's price) to get a smaller sensor; no flip/twist LCD; no RAW; lesser lens; zoom that grows out like Pinocchio's nose and makes filters difficult; and on and on.
The FZ has its faults but the other are seriously flawed - and at the same price, you'd have to be nuts to choose an H-something or SP-something over it.
Greg Gebhardt
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you will see that I am your side and like the FZ50!
Chill!
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Chill!
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MrClick #421805
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Just a heads up... the Canon S5IS should be compared too... because it is available as of today. Check out the Canon Talk Forum.
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So I can do my annual Saddam inspired "Mother of all" series posts ;-)
I wouldn't want to let you guys down now!
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Gregm61
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The movie mode in the S-series Canon digicams is second to none, but they've yet to have a digicam with a hot shoe where compatibility with their own flash units wasn't crippled in one way or another, and until they have one of these models with a manual zoom and focus ring, to me their not in the same class.
I can mount a TTL flash on my FZ50, shoot in manual mode with the FZ50, picking my own apertures and shutter speeds and the flash will still work TTL or in non-TTL automatic and give me perfect exposures just as if I were using a DSLR, but not so with Canon...believe me, I have tried. In every Canon digicam to date, if you go to manual mode on the camera, the flash also reverts to manual mode and you're left with no ability other than variable power increments that are strictly trial and error...worthless.
genece
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Aw ....those canon people can not see the C.A. for the P fringing.
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Gene
From Western PA.
Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.
http://imageevent.com/grc6
Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
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Gene
From Western PA.
Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.
http://imageevent.com/grc6
Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
BillZM
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FZ50 is overall the best current model superzoom (I think you'll find agreement here on the Panasonic forum anyway on that point).
The Fuji S6000fd is an interesting alternative though and would win out for certain types of shooting. No IS (a major omission), but the sensor's high ISO performance is unlike any other superzoom; not DSLR quality but considerably better than the superzoom competitors; 28-300 focal lengths.
The Kodak P880 (still available?) is also an interesting alternative. No IS again, but 24-140 focal lengths, and reputedly good picture quality. Focusing performance has improved apparently from initial reviews with firmware updates.
The Fuji S6000fd is an interesting alternative though and would win out for certain types of shooting. No IS (a major omission), but the sensor's high ISO performance is unlike any other superzoom; not DSLR quality but considerably better than the superzoom competitors; 28-300 focal lengths.
The Kodak P880 (still available?) is also an interesting alternative. No IS again, but 24-140 focal lengths, and reputedly good picture quality. Focusing performance has improved apparently from initial reviews with firmware updates.
Dave Dougherty
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The FZ50 is my fourth digital camera.
It is a complex instrument that requires some time to learn. Once you do learn to use it's myriad capabilities I feel you will be pleased.
For the money it is without peer! Where else can you get the zoom range and Leica lens quality. Add up what it would cost to buy just three Canon or Nikon lenses to cover the range. Then add the cost of a better DSLR to hang them on. You just spent several thousand dollars.
Yes the noise is a problem. Decide for yourself; are you going to shoot low light with out flash all the time? Do you need unlimited burst shooting? Or, do you need versatility with excellent optics and very good images shot at ISO 200 or below?
I looked back at the type of shooting I was doing and found that the FZ50 covered 90% of my needs.
Finally, I caution against debating how many pixels can dance on the head of a pin. All of the camera manufactureres, Panasonic included, market high pixel count with the hope that one will buy into the idea that more is always better. In reality, there is a big difference between an artistically conceived and framed photo and one shot by a person with no composition or artistic skill; the camera is only a tool. We've all seen photos made with $5000 worth of equipment that were lousy in their composition.
Get the FZ50, learn to use just 50% of it's capabilities to correctly compose and expose your photos and you will be ahead of most people. Go out and take photos, lots of photos and have fun!!
It is a complex instrument that requires some time to learn. Once you do learn to use it's myriad capabilities I feel you will be pleased.
For the money it is without peer! Where else can you get the zoom range and Leica lens quality. Add up what it would cost to buy just three Canon or Nikon lenses to cover the range. Then add the cost of a better DSLR to hang them on. You just spent several thousand dollars.
Yes the noise is a problem. Decide for yourself; are you going to shoot low light with out flash all the time? Do you need unlimited burst shooting? Or, do you need versatility with excellent optics and very good images shot at ISO 200 or below?
I looked back at the type of shooting I was doing and found that the FZ50 covered 90% of my needs.
Finally, I caution against debating how many pixels can dance on the head of a pin. All of the camera manufactureres, Panasonic included, market high pixel count with the hope that one will buy into the idea that more is always better. In reality, there is a big difference between an artistically conceived and framed photo and one shot by a person with no composition or artistic skill; the camera is only a tool. We've all seen photos made with $5000 worth of equipment that were lousy in their composition.
Get the FZ50, learn to use just 50% of it's capabilities to correctly compose and expose your photos and you will be ahead of most people. Go out and take photos, lots of photos and have fun!!
Whoa! I guess I wasn't clear enought. We are in complete agreement and I knew it the whole time. I just thought I would toss in my thoughts about the fact that so many people have trotted out the newer models that come along as possible competitors - or threats? - to the FZ50.
We're on the same team and have been all along. I guess my post made it sound like I had an issue with you? but I sure didn't. I'm glad you posted.
Check out the threat 'S5 vs FZ8 100%crops - colours, other things -' The picture examples IMO show the FZ8 mopping up the flloor with the S5 - FZ8 is sharper, clearer, no purple fringing. And the first response is that 'The FZ8, like all Panasonic cameras, has too much noise.' Predictable.
One must admit, the color rendition on the S5 is better- at least with regards to the purple fringing, which is indeed purple, and not transparent as on the FZ8.
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