Got more than my bargain!

Glad this is beneficial to you.
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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

Which part of "her" descriptions fit the smudge/scratches on the front lens?

Hemidart said:

Personally I think it fit the description. The seller kept
referring to it possibly be only good for parts.

I would not of bid on it going by their description. I would of
taken the money and bought a few beers and a steak.

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

Hi Mark

She certain is a "pro". The small loss is ok but just want people to be aware of this seller.

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

Alex - photos were taken with Flektogon 35 2.4. Glad you like them.
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Brisbane, Australia

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Glad you benefited from it.

Cheers

jsundin said:

So, either she has very hairy hands, or she had someone else hold
the lens while they took a picture of it. ;-)

I would complain, but it seems they made a lot of effort to say it
was "parts only". I would definatly complain, but, were you
expeccting a working lens?

I have, indeed, learned to read more into these from your posting.

Jeff

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

I asked but she repeated what was posted ... oh "I don't know" ... so I thought ... put it 20 bucks and be prepared to say good bye ...

I am convinced that "she" is artistically deceptive!

Cheers

awo425 said:

No image of front element. 98% feedback, as is, no returns, and a
usual story about late husband.
This would be pretty obvious for me not to jump on it.
There's a lot of junk sellers on EBAY. Seller was absolutely aware
of the fact that the item is junk. You mistake is that you never
asked a question about glass condition.

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

Really?

Lim

parallaxproblem said:

1. Has nobody noticed that this lens has a Tamron Pentax K
Adaptall mount attached?

Why don't you do an Ebay search on 'Pentax Adaptall' and see how
much the 'K' (not KA) versions of this mount sell for on their
own... prices vary from about 60% of what you paid for the lens to
more than you paid!

2. Are you sure those marks are all scratches? I see some mud or
grit sitting on the front of the lens, outside the element All the
marks seem to be on the outer surface - not fungus inside - and
appear to be mostly smear-marks rather than deep gouges. This
implies that it has been dropped or simply placed onto something
and that no effort has been made to clean it afterwards - have you
tried carefully cleaning the front element yourself? You might
well find that most of that stuff comes-off!

Now for the Moralising...

The DPReview Pentax Forum Lynch-Mob has been out in force in this
thread - never a pretty sight - but let's think about this for a
minute...

The description of the item was quite clearly PARTS ONLY , even in
the auction title (!), and the photos were so indistinct as to be
worthless for evaluation purposes... much has been made over that
fluff about 'my husband's (corrected grammar) estate': did you
believe it and was it a factor in your purchase, even with the
'prices slashed' 'sale-a-rama' graphics and the 98.9% satisfaction
rating? If so then more fool you, but why did you consider it
remotely relevant to the auction:
1. Were you concerned and sympathetic to her situation and bidding
as a way of offering financial assistance - if the lens had been
perfect then would you have sent a little extra money as a 'thank
you'?
or...
2. Did you think she was a clueless old widow who might have
mis-labled an acution, thus presenting you with a chance to get
something for below market price?

If the latter is the case, then who was trying to rip-off who...?
Perhaps you deserve each other?

I sometimes used to buy broken lenses and other equipment for
repair/experimentation on Ebay but I don't any more as their price
seems to have sky-rocketted to silly levels because of people
wanting to believe things are something they usually quite
clearly aren't...

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

The seller had questionable feedback and stated: not tested,so designated as a PARTS item.

These are being sold as UNTESTED...AS IS PARTS items

These items were part of my late husbands estate..and I am so sorry but I know very little about this item..so please excuse my very simple descriptions.

PLEASE NOTE.....that since I cannot test or evaluate this camera I am selling it as a PARTS ONLY item. It is possible that it is fine...or it may need repair. or simply be just as I am stateing PARTS only..I am sorry I simply do not know. I suggest you bid on this with this honest statement in mind...thank you.

You shouldn't complain given the available information.

It makes one wonder if the picture is even taken by the seller. It says in the text "by my late husband" or something like that... whilst the pic is clearly not a female hand (on the other hand, could be a homosexual partner though...)...

Damn that really bites ... Definitely report it or at least contact the seller first... and see if something can be sorted out.

Even though auction mentioned parts only, I think there is room for complaint because of the inadequate photos and absence of mentioning poor condition (dirty, cracked?, whatnot) of lens. If it said or showed the visible condition + mentioned parts only and also said cannot be tested then that would be an informed sales decision.

Since it was ebay after all, and in the $20ish range, I myself would probably not proceed with further action, but not because I think the seller is without fault.
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LimCam said:

Really?

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Kind of a weak reply, don't you think?

Did you try simply cleaning the front of the lens? Did all/any of the mess on the front element come off?

Did you register the fact you got a Tamron Adaptall Pentax K mount adaptor as part of the deal which you can either use with other Tamron Adaptall lenses (a nice 300/2.8, 300/5.6 'macro' or 500/8, maybe?) or alternatively sell-on for at least half of what you paid, maybe more?

Or are you too frightened and/or embarassed to acknowledge the above after making such a fuss over winning an item which was accurately described and that one assumes was delivered to you within a reasonable time frame...

Incidentally, I would buy from this seller, but on the understanding that I was bidding on scrap - as they clearly list in their sales notices!

First off, the seller describes the lens as 'parts item' which in my ebay definition mean a piece of unusable junk.

Second, the seller does seem less than reputable, I looked at several pages of the "late husband" BS.

Third, if you give the seller a negative feedback, you're very likely to get one back at ya.

If it were me, and we are talking $22 here, I'd chalk it up to experience and move on.
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Kristian Farren
http://kf3.net

Why don't you clean the lense, it looks like mud mostly. You might be able to get $22 worth of usage out of it...

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Roger

Abe

So you believe that "she" did not know that the front of the lens was smudged/scratched?

AbeS said:

The seller had questionable feedback and stated: not tested,so
designated as a PARTS item.

These are being sold as UNTESTED...AS IS PARTS items

These items were part of my late husbands estate..and I am so sorry
but I know very little about this item..so please excuse my very
simple descriptions.

PLEASE NOTE.....that since I cannot test or evaluate this camera I
am selling it as a PARTS ONLY item. It is possible that it is
fine...or it may need repair. or simply be just as I am stateing
PARTS only..I am sorry I simply do not know. I suggest you bid on
this with this honest statement in mind...thank you.

You shouldn't complain given the available information.

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia

If it was just mud, why wouldn't the seller have at least cleaned it off. It makes it look like she was mad that it didn't sell for a higher price. You took good photos and it looks cracked to me.
Pure and simple - you got scammed.

I'm an e-bay seller for the past 7 years. Have sold 100's of items, mostly used collectible porcelain and glass and use my K100D to photograph my items.
I'd like to make 2 points.

1. Anyone that thinks this was an honest auction because it said parts only is nuts. It would have been just as easy to use a photo of the front element to show it's true condition. There is an expectation that items be described well. And not to hide the flaws. Believe me I know. I had listed 2 Lenox items together and honestly thought they were from the same pattern set. The buyer said they weren't and filed a paypal dispute. With no evidence required other than the buyers word for it, I was ordered to refund the purchase price plus shipping and accept the return or have my paypal account frozen until the refund was made. It's called an "Item not as described dispute", and the buyer normally prevails, no questions asked.

2. Negative feedback hurts the seller more than the buyer. If you only buy on e-bay, don't worry about retaliatory negative feedback. It won't stop you from bidding on anything your heart desires. Worst case is a seller will reject your bid, but if you have a history of positive feedback I wouldn't worry about. On the other hand if a seller has much of any negative feedback his auction listings are at risk of being ignored.

Recommendation: File an "Item not as described" dispute. Do it through paypal if that's how you paid. Tell the seller you want to return the item, and let them know you will give them negative feedback if you can't get this resolved.

As a seller, I've found that the buyers have the leverage when it comes to negative feedback. I have had my share of deadbeat bidders, but don't give them negative feedback for fear I will get one back. As I said, I'm a seller and can't afford negative feedback. It's far less of a problem for buyers. She/he won't be selling much of her "husband's" estate with your negative feedback. But act quickly.

Where does it describe that the front lens is smudged/scratched?

parallaxproblem said:

LimCam said:

Really?

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Kind of a weak reply, don't you think?

Did you try simply cleaning the front of the lens? Did all/any of
the mess on the front element come off?

Did you register the fact you got a Tamron Adaptall Pentax K mount
adaptor as part of the deal which you can either use with other
Tamron Adaptall lenses (a nice 300/2.8, 300/5.6 'macro' or 500/8,
maybe?) or alternatively sell-on for at least half of what you
paid, maybe more?

Or are you too frightened and/or embarassed to acknowledge the
above after making such a fuss over winning an item which was
accurately described and that one assumes was delivered to you
within a reasonable time frame...

Incidentally, I would buy from this seller, but on the
understanding that I was bidding on scrap - as they clearly list
in their sales notices!

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Brisbane, Australia

You didn't get taken my friend... you didn't pay attention.

PENTAX K MOUNT

TAMRON SP 70-210MM LENS.

-----PARTS

Here is a PENTAX K MOUNT TAMRON SP 70-210MM LENS.....not tested,so designated as a PARTS item.

These are being sold as UNTESTED...AS IS PARTS items

These items were part of my late husbands estate..and I am so sorry but I know very little about this item..so please excuse my very simple descriptions.

PLEASE NOTE.....that since I cannot test or evaluate this camera I am selling it as a PARTS ONLY item. It is possible that it is fine...or it may need repair. or simply be just as I am stateing PARTS only..I am sorry I simply do not know. I suggest you bid on this with this honest statement in mind...thank you.

Please ask all questions prior to bidding and I will make every effort to answer you promptly.

Sorry all sales are final....everything is sold as an untested .

Domestic mail is almost always sent Priority...safer and faster.

Special thanks to my loyal and repeat customers....you will never know how much you are appreciated.

Thank you and Good Luck.
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http://www.vocationalforensics.com

parallaxproblem said:

1. Has nobody noticed that this lens has a Tamron Pentax K
Adaptall mount attached?

Why don't you do an Ebay search on 'Pentax Adaptall' and see how
much the 'K' (not KA) versions of this mount sell for on their
own... prices vary from about 60% of what you paid for the lens to
more than you paid!

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exactly... if the mount isn't sprung or tweaked, you did just fine.

in fact, if you had told us that you bought it for the mount, with the lense being a bonus gamble, the more astute among us would have commended you for your sense of daring

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dan

Hi OSV

I bought it for the lens. No idea about the K or KA mount.

Cheers
Lim

osv said:

parallaxproblem said:

1. Has nobody noticed that this lens has a Tamron Pentax K
Adaptall mount attached?

Why don't you do an Ebay search on 'Pentax Adaptall' and see how
much the 'K' (not KA) versions of this mount sell for on their
own... prices vary from about 60% of what you paid for the lens to
more than you paid!

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exactly... if the mount isn't sprung or tweaked, you did just fine.

in fact, if you had told us that you bought it for the mount, with
the lense being a bonus gamble, the more astute among us would have
commended you for your sense of daring

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dan

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LimCam
Brisbane, Australia