Olympus E510 test - pros and cons

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I don't really understand people who rate cameras without actually handling them - or testing them. Anyways, I've had a sneak preview of the new E510 and I'll note any positives" of the new camera as well as any problem areas...

First off the E510 camera is much more responsive in low light condition unlike earlier Olympus E models, faster focusing and noise has been reduced at higher ISO and in low light conditions.

The liveMOS system has been fully intergrated into this model and allows the user to aim the camera like a point and shoot... same as the E330 camera. Some people love this feature and other simply hate the idea as it breaks with photographic tradition...if you don't like the LiveMOS viewing then you can turn it off by touching a button. The view finder in this camera is very comfortable to look through and digital information appear inside - fstop, focal length and lighting conditions. Very smooth. The body is made from plastic but it fits very nicely in your hand. This Olympus camera reminds me of the Canon Rebel XT but it is a thicker camera than that.

Performance: While some people condemn Olympus for noise problems, I have to say that noise in this particular model is quite low across the board. Far, far better than any Olympus camera to date, hands down. Now you might wonder how this camera compair to other entry dSLRs. Well lucky thing, I did a test. Here is my take on things. At 100 ISO I put the E510 beside the Nikon D80 and the Canon Rebel XTi - no noise filter. The preset colors on the E510 were off a bit so I adjusted and tried again. The E510 had less color noise than Nikon and Canon - shadow noise was very low and less obvious than either the Canon XTi or Nikon D80. So I pushed the next test - 1600 ISO - I found far less noise than expected...obviously Olympus has improved significantly here. Canon XTi and the Nikon D80 showed a marked increase in the noise factor --- in fact, I'd say the color noise was 10% worse in the Nikon/Canon models than what I saw with the E510. Shadow noise was on par with the E510 - again this is without the noise reduction filter engaged.

So like I said before - this is a great leap forward for Olympus. Go buy one, you won't regret it - promise! This is a fine camera for keen photographers.

Color accuracy: You need to adjust this camera before you simply shoot with it. Colors can be off significantly...so take some test shots first and adjust the white balance and color sets... and all should be fine. Its one of those factory setting things - not a big deal! Using an 18-180mm lens I found the performance pretty decent - and it is a slow lens.

Once adjusted correctly to lighting condition this camera is simply a gem to use. No camera is perfect...
 
I might look at getting one if they are in NZ before december.
 
Very encouraging. More so because you are a "rebel man" :-) Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Not sure how long I'll be able to hold myself. I am still torn between 410 & 510. That E-410 is sooo cute ... but then E-510 has IS ...
I don't really understand people who rate cameras without actually
handling them - or testing them. Anyways, I've had a sneak preview
of the new E510 and I'll note any positives" of the new camera as
well as any problem areas...
First off the E510 camera is much more responsive in low light
condition unlike earlier Olympus E models, faster focusing and
noise has been reduced at higher ISO and in low light conditions.

The liveMOS system has been fully intergrated into this model and
allows the user to aim the camera like a point and shoot... same as
the E330 camera. Some people love this feature and other simply
hate the idea as it breaks with photographic tradition...if you
don't like the LiveMOS viewing then you can turn it off by touching
a button. The view finder in this camera is very comfortable to
look through and digital information appear inside - fstop, focal
length and lighting conditions. Very smooth. The body is made from
plastic but it fits very nicely in your hand. This Olympus camera
reminds me of the Canon Rebel XT but it is a thicker camera than
that.

Performance: While some people condemn Olympus for noise problems,
I have to say that noise in this particular model is quite low
across the board. Far, far better than any Olympus camera to date,
hands down. Now you might wonder how this camera compair to other
entry dSLRs. Well lucky thing, I did a test. Here is my take on
things. At 100 ISO I put the E510 beside the Nikon D80 and the
Canon Rebel XTi - no noise filter. The preset colors on the E510
were off a bit so I adjusted and tried again. The E510 had less
color noise than Nikon and Canon - shadow noise was very low and
less obvious than either the Canon XTi or Nikon D80. So I pushed
the next test - 1600 ISO - I found far less noise than
expected...obviously Olympus has improved significantly here. Canon
XTi and the Nikon D80 showed a marked increase in the noise factor
--- in fact, I'd say the color noise was 10% worse in the
Nikon/Canon models than what I saw with the E510. Shadow noise was
on par with the E510 - again this is without the noise reduction
filter engaged.
So like I said before - this is a great leap forward for Olympus.
Go buy one, you won't regret it - promise! This is a fine camera
for keen photographers.

Color accuracy: You need to adjust this camera before you simply
shoot with it. Colors can be off significantly...so take some test
shots first and adjust the white balance and color sets... and all
should be fine. Its one of those factory setting things - not a big
deal! Using an 18-180mm lens I found the performance pretty decent
  • and it is a slow lens.
Once adjusted correctly to lighting condition this camera is simply
a gem to use. No camera is perfect...
 
for everyone to pick apart and complain about :-))

Glad you like the camera- I'm sure it's a great camera for its intended audience.

Gene
 
Sorry I don't have samples - but if you get one of these cameras then you'll see what I mean anyways... if I have more time I'll do another test for dpreview and be more CRITICAL this time.

Your post is also useless, R. Valentino - take off, will ya! I don't appreciate your comment at all and its no way to introduce yourself to other members of dpreview.

Cheers,
for everyone to pick apart and complain about :-))

Glad you like the camera- I'm sure it's a great camera for its
intended audience.

Gene
--
your future is just a click away!
 
Now I dont know a lot about noise, so I will say up front that I am more than willing to be corrected on this.

Chroma noise could be described in laymans terms as the coloured dots you see that arnt suppose to be there. Different to hot pixels but similar in a way.

Luminance noise is like the black/grey dots that you see. Very much like high ISO film.

I only have a E1 and E510 to compare against. In relation to noise, chroma certainly isnt as standout as the E1. That is so clear that youd have to be almost blind not to tell. But Lum noise is much more apparent than chroma. Default sharpening in the e510 is quite high for standard setting, much higher than default E1.
This is not meant to be a definative comparison but more so for interest.

The E1 has has the setting of +1 contrast and +2 Sharpening and +1/3EV exposure (my standard setting for e1 shooting and i forgot to return it to normal for this test. doh!), while the E510 has all default settings (normal) except noise filter is set to "Off".

Below are some 100% crops taken at 400, 800 & 1600. Now, these are all hand held using the 14-54 lens. To be reasonably fair I also resized the e510 to the same pixel dimensions as the E1 in the pics labels at "resized" that way it gives an idea as to what it would be like in roughly a 5mp jpeg. These are all straigh jpeg NOT converted from raw. Settings shown below.

400ISO
E1 1/25th at f2.8 at 14mm
E510 1/30th at f2.8 at 14mm

E1



E510 (resized)



E510



800ISO
E1 1/40th at f2.8 at 14mm
E510 1/40th at f3.2 at 14mm

E1



E510 (resized)



E510



1600ISO
E1 1/50th at f3.5 at 14mm
E510 1/60th at f3.5 at 14mm

E1



E510 (resized)



E510



I hope this give you a good idea as to the improvements, yet an honest view of the noise.
 
This is a little proof(ISO 800) at exactly the kind of detail you will be getting going to 10 megapixels. It's simply a huge difference.

I absolutely cannot wait for my 510 to get here.
 
I don't see a smiley at the end of your post, I don't assume you were joking on contrary to him, who apparently did.

Calm down ....

Regards

Marek
 
...alrighty then ;) --- sorry I did get carried away. Your right. But its all the hype of this camera firing at my neurons - its insane.

Really, I suggest that you put the entry level dSLR camera from any brand against the E510 --- it will certainly out do - out perform any of them.
 
In addition to my previous comparison, i have just done one at 100ISO. 800 & 1600ISO is one thing. But in all honesty how many shoot at that and print? Thats where a 100ISO test comes into play.

The details:
Lense: 14-54mm 2.8 - 3.5

E1
1/160th at f3.2 at 14mm
+1 Contrast
+2 Sharpening
0 EV compensation
Noise Filter Off
White Balance - Auto

E510 1/160th at f3.2 at 14mm
"Natural" setting with default values (contract, Saturation Sharpness etc)
Noise Filter Off
White Balance - Auto

Again, handheld standing in roughly the same place taken within 6 min of each other (exif will show 1 hour later for E1. I forgot to change time when daylight saving finished). The E510 has both a full 100% crop and another 100% crop from a resized file to the same size as the E1 file (2560x1920).

E1
Full Image (reduced to 800x600)



100% crop of orig file



E510
Full Image (reduced to 800x600)



100% crop of original file



100% crop (resized to E1 pixel dimensions)



I was quite amazed at the difference here. Check out timber cabinet and the items in it. Hope this shed some light on the matter. What will they have install for the E/P3?

For curiosity i also looked at 100% crops of the area around the light switch and to be honest the difference was also amazing. I dont mean to put down the E1 whatsoever cause its still an amazing camera and can take awsome pics. Good work Olympus :)
 
Sorry...these comparisons were all shot using the highest quality jpeg in camera settings.
 
Can you tell me anything about the LiveMOS and having to turn off the LCD screen to get it to autofocus. Or can I still manual focus by pushing halfway down on the shuttler realease button without shutting down the LiveMOS?

Thanks
 
facetious what with all the whining over posted images. I would no way post a photo at this time it's a lose lose situation.

Gene
 
Ok, the low down is that when you enable live view it is literally "live view".

1. When you want to focus on an object but "not" take a photo you simply hit the "AEL/AFL" button and you will hear the mirror drop then lense focus and finally the mirror pops back up so you can continue in live view with the subject in focus.

2. You can aim at the subject (in or out of focus) hit the shutter button and the mirror will drop, focus then take the pic and it will write it to teh card. Btw apparently you can also take a "sample" pic to look at and check before writing to the card.

3. You can change to Manual Focus then focus manually seeing the results as you focus on the LCD.

Oh and you can view the benefit image stabelising is giving you, while in live view, by holding down the IS button. Quite interesting....
 
I don't want to start a war here. I don't own a E-510, but I'm very interested in that camera.
Your comments about noise are surprising.

I saw the test images at imaging ressource, and compared the Nikon D40 or D40x with the E-410 (wich is supposed to share the same sensor with the E-510).
There's no doubt for me that the Nikons are better in the noise department.
Same thing with the Canon 400D.
That's normal, given their respective sensor size.

In fact, I'm still balancing between a D40 and a E510. The D40 looks better noisewise, and allows shallower DOF. According to those tests, it seems the E510 looses at least one stop at high iso. But it has IS, wich is a must have for me, and allows a gain of 2 or 3 stops. That's important for me, as I like taking hand held pictures in low light (churches interiors, night scenes). And the E-510 is not a crippled camera as the D40 is : it seems MUCH easier to settle to the shooter likings.
Tough decision...
André
 

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