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I have a 24-105 lens on a 30D camera. There are many posts on this forum which state that a 24mm lens is not wide enough on a crop camera and you need a 17-XX or even a 10-22 lens. My experience is that the 24-105 covers 80% of my requirements below the 105 mark, where it is not wide enough I can step back a few paces, this accounts for, say, another 15% of my needs. The remaining 5%, where I cannot step back sufficiently far I lose. Personally I am prepared to put up with these losses rather than carry around a 17-40 in addition to the 24-105.

Anyone else feel this way?
 
To me the 24-105 is a great match for the 5D. I like the lens but not the barrel distortion at 24. And for some things that I shoot 24 isn't wide enough on my 30D so I use my 10-22 instead.

Tamron just came out with an 18-250 and I saw that it got a good review in a photo mag.
 
Yep. I would say the majority of people that have chosen this lens on a crop camera feel this way. I do, anysway. Alternatively, they simply purchase an additional lens to cover the wide range if desired.

There is no "Best" solution. It all comes down to personal preference and usage requirements. No one else can determine what you may or may not need.
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I use the 24-105 a lot but it depends on what I'm shooting. I actually tend to use long focal lengths,very rairly use my 10-22
Selvanian said:
I have a 24-105 lens on a 30D camera. There are many posts on this
forum which state that a 24mm lens is not wide enough on a crop
camera and you need a 17-XX or even a 10-22 lens. My experience is
that the 24-105 covers 80% of my requirements below the 105 mark,
where it is not wide enough I can step back a few paces, this
accounts for, say, another 15% of my needs. The remaining 5%, where
I cannot step back sufficiently far I lose. Personally I am
prepared to put up with these losses rather than carry around a
17-40 in addition to the 24-105.

Anyone else feel this way?
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...and I am warning you.

30D + 1D2N over here, with Canon's f/4 L-Trinity (17-40, 24-105IS, 70-200 IS), and on my last trip I had really tough times composing/framing with the 30D+17-40mm. I can not imaging using the 24-105 more successfully on that particular trip.

Now, mount the 24-105 on the APS-H N body, and you will know what the sun rising at early morning means...

:-)

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Selvanian said:
I have a 24-105 lens on a 30D camera. There are many posts on this
forum which state that a 24mm lens is not wide enough on a crop
camera and you need a 17-XX or even a 10-22 lens. My experience is
that the 24-105 covers 80% of my requirements below the 105 mark,
where it is not wide enough I can step back a few paces, this
accounts for, say, another 15% of my needs. The remaining 5%, where
I cannot step back sufficiently far I lose. Personally I am
prepared to put up with these losses rather than carry around a
17-40 in addition to the 24-105.

Anyone else feel this way?
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Not exactly. My recommendation is to add a Canon kit lens to cover the lost 5% and many of the 15%. The kit lens only weighs about six ounces and you should be able to get one for less than $100 used. It isn't a horrible lens especially if you can stop down to f8 and combines nicely with the Canon 24-105mm.
 
I only seldom need to mount my 17-40/4. Normally I'm quite satisfied with only the 24-105/4. That is, when I travel with only one lens. When I'm able to take my recksack with all the gear, then I've my other lenses available.

But I've never really missed a wider angle than 24mm on that lens. Formerly I used the 28-135 IS as my ONE lens when traveling. So the 24mm focal length is an improvement.

Basically it depends upon the users' taste - I seldom need wider angle lenses.
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I totally agree with you, I use my 24-105L as my walk around lens, any odd wider stuff I put back on the kits lens, really sharp when stopped down, I'm using it on a 350D.

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Kevin.
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... when you'll be traveling and can take only one lens. Also you need to understand the lens's weaknesses and advantages. If used 'properly' and usually not for poster-size prints, such a do-it-all lens can be quite a gem.

If a person would, for example, tour India for four weeks with only a rucksack and would be very limited in gear, then such is the application I would foresee. But If a person thinks of replacing three or four lenses for 'home use', then I'd see the shortcomings as far too limiting.
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Selvanian said:
I have a 24-105 lens on a 30D camera. There are many posts on this
forum which state that a 24mm lens is not wide enough on a crop
camera and you need a 17-XX
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Selvanian said:
Anyone else feel this way?
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I agree. I've never understood why people say that lenses starting in the 20's aren't wide enough but they never mention that lenses starting in the 17's aren't long enough. I guess they just aren't taking pictures of the same things that I am.

I think some people really believe it and others just say it because they have read it here so many times before. As long as you are satisfied that your lens covers 80% of your needs, it doesn't really matter what someone else's opinion is.

Unless you are doing this for a living, I also think you interests and shooting styles can change over time. You may want to trade your 24-105 for a 17-55 in 5 years. It will be OK for you to do that and it will still be OK to tell people that 24mm was wide enough to cover your needs for the last 5 years of your photography.

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NeilCUK said:
i have a 24-105 and 10-20

i'll be selling the 10-20 at some point

the amount of time i actually use the 10-20, i may as well just
stitch the 24-105

the quality of the 24-105 beats the 10-20 hands down
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For a long time with my XT/XTi, I stitched images from my 24-70L and 24-105L to avoid buying a 10-22 and carrying another lens. This works good for static subjects and for best results requires a tripod (which I always carry). But there are times when I just want wide in a single handheld image without the extra effort. Shooting several images down a close and narrow alley to get a wide view is easy. But stitching them is often difficult, and it still doesn't provide the perspective of a super wide.

Last fall I finally bought a 10-22 from B&H. It's not that expensive. Best of all, it's small, light, and works with the hood from my 24-105 on my 1.6x crop. The 10-22 size/weight are great, I can just drop it into a pocket.

The 10-22 doesn't replace stitching my 24mm to go wide. But it sure offers another option with a different perspective that sparks some new creativity.

To the OP, I thought I could do without a wide angle lens. In the end, I wish I had bought the 10-22 sooner. Lots of missed shots.

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This is all subjective and relative to what you need. If you intend to use a crop body, you need to know how wide you want to shoot and adjust your lens selections accordingly. 24mm on the crop is about 38mm FOV, which is not wide enough for the type of work I do, so I don't use this lens on the 30D if I need to get wide. As a matter of fact, I seldom use the 30D for anything more narrow than 50mm, It's that simple. The 24-105L; though, will produce very good shots on the crop bodies and is a great all purpose lens. I just wouldn't count on it for indoor/confined area shooting other than portrait/intimate type of shots where you are isolating your subject from the scene.
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a lens is only as wide as you need it to be. it totally depends on your subject. a 10-22, 24-105 is a great combo and he has the kit lens so he is already got a wide angle. also by your own admission he should get a 10-22 as your 17-40 was not wide enough
PIXSurgeon said:
...and I am warning you.

30D + 1D2N over here, with Canon's f/4 L-Trinity (17-40, 24-105IS,
70-200 IS), and on my last trip I had really tough times
composing/framing with the 30D+17-40mm. I can not imaging using
the 24-105 more successfully on that particular trip.

Now, mount the 24-105 on the APS-H N body, and you will know what
the sun rising at early morning means...

:-)

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I'd almost take a panorama than switch to my older lenses.

I would however love to have the 10-22 some day, a perfect companion for the 24-105. And fo that matter, its funny how no one seems to dislike the 24-70 for that same reason.
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I'm doing fine with the 24-105L on my 20D, since February.

I've been shooting candids and formal full-body shot pictures of kids in schools in Ecuador. I'm getting good shots of classroom interiors. Could they be wider? Yes. Is 24 adequate? Yes.

I spent three days in the Amazon jungle this week, taking similar shots of kids and LOADS of candids and scenics in jungle villages. The lens did fine. It is good on both ends for me, very versatile, and save for some sharpening you have to do no matter what, image quality is excellent.

The 20D and battery grip, with the 24-105, fits nicely into the LowePro Sling 200 AW bag with room to spare.

I have no complaints.

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