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I have the Sony H1 and W1 as everyday supplements to my Nikon D50 d-SLR. The shutter lag of the H1 vs the W1 is what I'm writing about.

Obviously, I in no way expect either to match my d-SLR with regards to shutter lag, but I have noticed the H1 seems quite a bit longer than the W1 in regards to that. Between the time I press the shutter release from halfway to fully (described as S1> S2 in the reviews here), the H1 can take nearly a whole second (maybe 0.6 or so) before I hear the electronic "shutter sound" and see that a photo has been recorded. The W1 is much more immediate.

I thought it might be because of the image stabilization of the H1, but I turned it off and it's still that way. Red eye is off, and the delay exists with non-flash shots anyway. I reset all the settings and then just changed the digital setting (turned it off)--the lag is still there. Memory cards are identical--3 are Sandisk 512 Memory Stick Pro, the other is a Sony 512 Memory Stick Pro.

Again, I don't expect the H1 to match my SLR, but to see the W1 outdo it puzzles me somewhat.

Any tips? Has anyone experienced and found a setting which can be changed that will result in improvements in this department?

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I don't have my H1 any more, but there certainly wasn't a lot of lag that I recall. A very large number of my shots were pre-focused, so I certainly would have noticed.

Is the camera noticeably doing anything during this time?
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R2D2 said:
I don't have my H1 any more, but there certainly wasn't a lot of
lag that I recall. A very large number of my shots were
pre-focused, so I certainly would have noticed.

Is the camera noticeably doing anything during this time?
R2
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Not that I have noticed. The screen does go blank, and it just seems to be suspended in time for that ½ second or so, and then it seems to "wake up" as it were.

Again, it's not the worst I've ever seen, but my W1 doesn't seem to have this. Maybe the shutter button is at fault?

Or maybe this is the excuse I need to upgrade to the H2 with its longer battery life and ability to zoom in during movies. But that smaller screen makes me groan, as does its usage of Duo memory (I have four 512 Pro cards). But if its lag is less, maybe it's the excuse I need.

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Well, the W1 was/is a capable little camera. (Look at the user reviews on this site; actually has more ratings than the H1).

According to the DPR review for the H1, it has a telephoto half-press lag-time of 0.6 seconds......were the shots in question tele or wide?

(There is no DPR review of the W1 to compare it with).

What's your H1 lag like in fully manual mode?

Regards,
M.
 
larrytusaz said:
Any tips? Has anyone experienced and found a setting which can be
changed that will result in improvements in this department?
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Are you using them at the same focal length? The more you zoom in (with the H1) the more light it requires and the slower the focus may be.

Olga
 
Are you comparing them at the same focal length? If not, and if you are zooming in with the H1, then the difference in shutter lag is explained.

Olga
 
I will try that out. It could be the difference. I tried the H1 today and it seemed quicker, and in fact I think the shots were wider.

But that said, why should the lag be any different at telephoto--again, with these shots I've already prefocused by holding down halfway and keeping there. Why should telephoto shots be any different?

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larrytusaz said:
But that said, why should the lag be any different at
telephoto--again, with these shots I've already prefocused by
holding down halfway and keeping there. Why should telephoto shots
be any different?
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There shouldn't be any difference in shutter lag at telephoto vs. any other focal length. The difference is in the AF speed (which isn't the issue - as you stated).
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R2D2 said:
larrytusaz said:
But that said, why should the lag be any different at
telephoto--again, with these shots I've already prefocused by
holding down halfway and keeping there. Why should telephoto shots
be any different?
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There shouldn't be any difference in shutter lag at telephoto vs.
any other focal length. The difference is in the AF speed (which
isn't the issue - as you stated).
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So in here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydsch1/page4.asp

they are not talking about shutter lag, but focusing lag?

(unfortunately, they don't show the "half-to-full-press" lag, as well as the zero-to-half-press")

Regards,
M.
 
montmorency said:
So in here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydsch1/page4.asp

they are not talking about shutter lag, but focusing lag?
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The 0-> S1 times are the Autofocus timings (no-press to half-press). This will vary with focal length, light conditions, subject matter, etc).
montmorency said:
(unfortunately, they don't show the "half-to-full-press" lag
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This is the S1-> S2 time (what the OP is describing). Half-press to full-press (shot being taken). This is referred to as "Shutter Lag." On the H1 it was measured at 0.1 seconds. The OP is experiencing times much longer than this.
montmorency said:
well as the zero-to-half-press")
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That's the 0-> S1 as described above.

Many people have referred to 0-> S2 (no-press to full-press) as "Shutter Lag," but it's a misnomer. It's led to a lot of confusion. 0-> S2 could in general be simply called "Lag."
R2

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R2D2 said:
montmorency said:
So in here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydsch1/page4.asp

they are not talking about shutter lag, but focusing lag?
Click to expand...
The 0-> S1 times are the Autofocus timings (no-press to half-press).
This will vary with focal length, light conditions, subject matter,
etc).
R2D2 said:
(unfortunately, they don't show the "half-to-full-press" lag
Click to expand...
This is the S1-> S2 time (what the OP is describing). Half-press to
full-press (shot being taken). This is referred to as "Shutter
Lag." On the H1 it was measured at 0.1 seconds. The OP is
experiencing times much longer than this.
R2D2 said:
well as the zero-to-half-press")
Click to expand...
That's the 0-> S1 as described above.

Many people have referred to 0-> S2 (no-press to full-press) as
"Shutter Lag," but it's a misnomer. It's led to a lot of
confusion. 0-> S2 could in general be simply called "Lag."
R2
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Thanks for clarifying.
Regards,
M.
 
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