Pentax to sell Tokyo HQ, Discontinues 645D Development

the Mainichi Shimbun reports that to raise funds to strengthen its digital single-lens reflex camera operations and other main businesses, Pentax is considering selling Pentax of America Inc.'s medical endoscope sale operations to overseas medical equipment makers.

Pentax's main cash cow is the endoscope business and it's main source of sales is the US market.

Herb...
 
They could do this because their pro body was the 645D. With that
gone, Pentax will be more motivated to make a FF body at some point
to give users something to work up to.
Full frame is a lot like the 645D. It is a small market because of
the expensive sensor. But as the APS-C format market becomes
saturated and people want to upgrade to better equipment, it will
become more mainstream and prices will fall. Until prices fall,
going full frame can be very risky for a company with shaky
finances. Those waiting for a full frame Pentax should be prepared
for a long wait.
Pentax shelved FF cameras some years ago, if I recall rightly they were developing one and just before its release was due they canned it. Sounds familiar doesn't it. Its very disappointing as I have a considerable investment in the 645 system and would have bought a digital body to protect that investment. Now 2nd hand values will have dropped through the floor. "Bugger!" is the right word.
 
Hmmm.. don't like to see them reverse diversify, but I believe Olympus took a big chunk of their endoscope business in the US in the past 2 years. That "cash cow" is not very sacred. Other parts of the '"lifecare" division may have helped.
From interum report:
Life Care Business

In the medical endoscopes field, the market environment was difficult in the North American

market because of the offensive of competitors. In the European and Asian markets where prices

of products are continuously lowering, we promoted regional sales strategies appropriate to the
needs of respective markets such as the sales of high cost-performance models.
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'The exposure meter is calibrated to some clearly defined standards and the user needs to adjust his working method and his subject matter to these values. It does not help to suppose all kinds of assumptions that do not exist.'
Erwin Puts
 
tweedle wrote:
Pentax literature listed there Professional series as MF.

I have several pamplets so yes, I can substantiate.

The LX was essentially the one and only true competitor to the Nikon Canon 35mm powerhouse pro body.

Was it better? Yep, did it win market share? not enough to justify keeping producing pro bodies.

Now saying that the PZ-1P other then the AF system was everybit pro. And to the AF systems defense it was accurate and fast. Just not as advanced as the Canon/Nikon pro bodies of the day.

The MZ-S was nice, not sure if it was a step up from the PZ-1P or not.

Then the ist D/K10D would be definitely considered pro bodies.

However, they never made a truly high end body and between the LX and PZ-1 it was a long time.

Still I stand behind the fact that Pentax believed (as did many photographers) that MF was professional and 35mm was not, or at least that was there marketing as they were a big player in MF but never much in 35mm after the screw mount days.
Tannin,

If you didn't know (perhaps you never shot film), pentax was one of
the leading MF camera makers. They sort of just made 35mm as a side
show, MF was their show.
Can you substantiate this?
They never considered 35mm professional.
They did. The Pentax LX was their professional 35 mm camera,
--
Justin Serpico
Mountain Visions Photography

 
I was under the impression the 1.3x 1D Mark II/III was aimed at sports shooters.

The 1Ds (full frame) is aimed more at studio/fine art type of use.

it's slower and has lower FPS. The 1.3X is more a sports shooters dream.

Not that the 1Ds FF isn't damn fast though.
Yes, Canon. No, Canon don't have a MF DSLR, but they do have the
1Ds II and (presumably) a 1Ds III before too long. These are bodies
that have had a ton of money spent on them, and have an awesome
range of lenses available. Yup, they are "small" with a mere 35mm
sensor, but they nevertheless set the benchmark for pro-level
cameras. For a 645D to be possible, it would have to be a major
step up from a 1Ds III.
The 645D was never intended to compete with something like the 1Ds
MkIII. The 645D is traditionally more a studio centric tool and
you could say the 1Ds MkIII is aimed more at PJ's and sports
shooters.

bazz.
--
Justin Serpico
Mountain Visions Photography

 
Double bugger!!
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WarrenKK

PetPeeve: posting a 800x600 to show anything other than how soft my lens is or why I need new glasses.
 
That should be enough cash to throw into the camera division for a
little while. I would take it to show that pentax can stay
independant, but... no layoffs. That doesn't make much sense if
pentax is going to have a profitable company for shareholders.
To be true to their culture, they should not do layoffs. "Layoffs" is a very western thing.

-gt
 
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/05/11/afx3710572.html
It seems the DSLR business has been very, very good for Pentax.
Sorry naysayers, Pentax is in the camera business.
Hurrah!

Well it looks like what was suspected has come to pass: when Pentax looked at is figures for the first quarter they realised that Hoya's bid was undervaluing Pentax given the imaging divisions renaissance.

Interestingly Life Care is underperforming - perhaps this could be sold to Hoya?

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Latest News from Friday meeting:

http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSSP760420070511

"Bid-target Pentax Corp. said there is a strong possibility that it
will be able to find a white knight to save it from a takeover
offer by Hoya Corp."

No mention of discontinuing 645D!
The imaging division has really strengthend over the past six months and has good room for growth further so hopefully investers can see the potential in Pentax now. I say hopefully.

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http://www.homepages.ucl.ac.uk/~ucsacco/
 
Pentax, being rather Japanese and the smallest of the famous brand camera makers, and since its ownership tends to be concentrated into a smallish group of institutional owners, does not make much of an effort to reach out to the English speaking investor community. So, you did not see as much revealed today from them, compared say to what you might find Canon or Fujifilm do during reporting time.

However, looking at their presentation they made available a short time ago, a few things I thought worth mentioning....

For the Imaging business:

They want to increase volume by 2009. On their presentation they mention 1 million unit sales but there are questions I would have asked about that number that aren't answered on their handout, so I can't really tell you what they really meant...

For DSLRs, they mention a lineup consisting of entry level, middle level, and high level products. It is not revealed if the high level would include a 645D and DX model mix, or just a 645D, or just a DX high end model (i.e., get out of MF arena totally.) Accessorizing DLSRs (e.g., selling lenses) is of course mentioned as a reason for this business area.

Target growth markets for them are China, Russia and the rest of the East.

My own thoughts: I mentioned before that I think the board should have gone with Hoya... yes, there is a chance that Hoya could repackage the camera business and sell it off (e.g., to Samsung) should times get tough. However, notice that while Pentax might not be doing as well in the medical field as they might had hoped, Hoya still thinks it worthy to buy Pentax to integrate such Pentax products and expertise into their own business in this area.

Hoya's long term thinking here is obviously that with aging populations in Japan, Europe and NA that medical equipment is a good long term play. Relative to the camera business, I'd agree with that. Pentax, though they make quality imaging products, will be trying to grow the imaging business during a time of increased probability of a major recession in NA (which would negatively affect east Asian economies too.) Many young people here (in the west) have not experienced a period of extended economic malaise (last one in the US was in '70's) and perhaps don't realize that times are not always rosy.

There is still room for improved efficiency in the camera business, by consolidation.

Sony and Matsushita/Olympus are targeting significant camera market share growth too - that is a tough crowd in which to compete.

The selling of the Tokyo property makes sense... Tokyo is one of the few areas of economic expansion in Japan - at the cost of other prefectures. Tokyo is still growing in population as young people leave the more rural prefectures. Thus real estate prices stay relatively strong in Tokyo compared to other prefectures. Thus it was probably a good time for Pentax to sell their property and move to Saitama, which is right next door but cheaper.

-gt
 
if you really were paying attention, you would know that Pentax and
Hoya have been in continuous discussions for the past month and
issuing press releases or official statements on the merger at
least once a week. meanwhile, Pentax has become a laughing stock in
Japan for its incompetent and petulant management that continues to
have its head in the sand.
The idea of continuous talks is totally erroneous. Pentax is contractually forbidden to engage in merger talks with other companies until after May. The new CEO has had one unproductive meeting with Hoya. All other ideas have been floated through the press, not from face to face discussions. Pentax is widely believed to be stalling until after May which would put them in a better bargaining position. If a company is going to get acquired, its best course of action is to get as many bidders as possible or to bring as much leverage as it can to strike the best deal. To resist a backroom deal struck by their former CEO who didn't inform most of the board until the day before the announcement and who has Pentax contractually locked out of talks with other companies is hardly the stuff of incompetence or petulance. The word prudence comes to my mind.

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rc

 
pentax was one of the leading MF camera makers.
They sort of just made 35mm as a side show, MF was
their show.
Can you substantiate this?
Pentax literature listed there Professional series as MF.

I have several pamplets so yes, I can substantiate.
That doen's substantiate anything of what you claimed in your earlier post, pico.

Pentax was never a leading MF-camera maker, they made some rather simple, budget priced cameras that had very long life circles and that many people loved (me too, actually, using the 67 for some time). But Hasselblad, Bronica, Mamiya, Rollei and Contax were bigger actors in the MF market place.

For every MF, Pentax made, they made 100 35 mm cameras. MF was the sideshow, not the opposite.
pico23 wrote:
They never considered 35mm professional.
They did. The Pentax LX was their professional 35 mm camera,
The LX was essentially the one and only true competitor to the
Nikon Canon 35mm powerhouse pro body.
They made the LX for quite some years, actually, with a range of very expensive lenses to go with it. A big investment and business venture for Pentax in thoise days. It didn't sell much, and when AF came, they eventually gave it up.

But they made it, so it is simply wrong to say that they never considered 35 mm professional.

Just for the record, pico. No big deal. It's just nice to get the facts straight, isn't it?.
 
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/05/11/afx3710572.html
It seems the DSLR business has been very, very good for Pentax.
Interesting...
Pentax senior executive officer in charge of finance and general accounting Shinichiro Mitsuhashi told a press conference: 'Sales of our SLR digital cameras expanded 2.5-fold to reach 300,000 units in the past fiscal year, as our new models, such as the K100D, were positively accepted by consumers at home and abroad.'
Pentax projects operating income of 4.0 bln yen in its imaging system division, assuming that sales of SLR digital cameras reach 500,000 cameras.
500,000 cameras would amount to nearly 10 per cent market share.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSSP760420070511

"Bid-target Pentax Corp. said there is a strong possibility that it
will be able to find a white knight to save it from a takeover
offer by Hoya Corp."
This means, that Pentax will probably be taken over by some other company than Hoya.

From Wikipedia:
In business, a white knight may be a corporation, a private company, or a person that intends to help another firm. There are many types of white knights.
The first type refers to the friendly acquirer of a target firm in a hostile takeover attempt by another firm. The intention of the acquisition is to circumvent the takeover of the object of interest by a third, unfriendly entity, which is perceived to be less favorable. The knight might defeat the undesirable entity by offering a higher and more enticing bid, or strike a favorable deal with the management of the object of acquisition.
In short, if Company T (target) is going to be acquired by Company H (hostile firm), but Company A (acquirer) can acquire ownership of Company T, then Company A would be acting as the white knight.
The second type refers to the acquirer of a struggling firm that may not necessarily be under threat by a hostile firm. The financial standing of the struggling firm could prevent any other entity being interested in an acquisition. The firm may already have huge debts to pay to its creditors, or worse, may already be bankrupt. In such a case, the knight, under huge risk, acquires the firm that is in crisis. After acquisition, the knight then rebuilds the firm, or integrates it into itself.
 
last year Canon spent Y41.1 billion on research and development and
Y31.5 billion on capital expenditures just for its camera
operations. this is almost four times what Pentax estimates it
spent for R&D and capex on all of its businesses, which also
include medical equipment and digital components. i.e., the entire
Y12 billion is one years worth of R&D at Pentax to put it where it
is today. it's also 1/10 of what Hoya has as cash on hand.

Herb...
Your numbers are interesting, but you have to know you can't just align numbers and think it give you the answers. Think about one thing : Apple spend very little money on R&D compared to Microsoft or other corp in this business (even in term of %), and it seems to be one of the top innovative brand in this business. So it really depends how you spend this money on what and how much the research is really applied in new products.

I don't doubt Canon is an innovative corp, but i'm sure you can still be innovative in photography with less money than they do. For me it just mean you can't develop everything inside the corp and use techncology from other corp or collaborate with them.

That said, Canon can enjoy a scale effect about his R&D because they are in every aspect of the camera business from cheap camera to pro. I don't think Pentax can live only with products for the middle of the market and forget about compacts cam and pro. It would be a marketing disaster (why do you think ppl can pay for a Leica compact : every serious brand have to be solid in the pro market to build a respected brand) and a scale problem when it comes to R&D.

(Sorry for my english)
 
This means, that Pentax will probably be taken over by some other
company than Hoya.
Not necessarily. Usually a "White Knight" acquires a strategic interest in the firm facing a hostile bid which puts enough voting shares into "friendly" hands to guarantee that the hostile takeover cannot succeed. It is not common that the "White Knight" acquires a controlling share.

In this case, I guess that the Pentax board are hoping that a supportive institutional investor or company will buy into Pentax to a degree which maintains enough boardroom and shareholder meeting votes to ensure that the company goes where the current board and management want it to go.
 
Pentax senior executive officer in charge of finance and general accounting Shinichiro Mitsuhashi told a press conference: 'Sales of our SLR digital cameras expanded 2.5-fold to reach 300,000 units in the past fiscal year, as our new models, such as the K100D, were positively accepted by consumers at home and abroad.'
Pentax projects operating income of 4.0 bln yen in its imaging system division, assuming that sales of SLR digital cameras reach 500,000 cameras.
500,000 cameras would amount to nearly 10 per cent market share.
Not quite. The current CIPA numbers for the fiscal year compared with Nikon and Pentax financial data just released shows:

2006/7: 5.93m units, Nikon 2.640m or 45%, Pentax 0.3m or 5%
2007/8: 7m units, Nikon 3.5m or 50%, Pentax 0.5 or 7% (all estimates)

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editor, Nikon DSLR Report
author, Complete Guides: D50, D70s, D80, D100, D200, D1 series, D2 series
http://www.bythom.com
 

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