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Scott,

Most of the noise and the bands aren't in the original small jpg produced by the EOS-1D. I hastily batch process these images to get them out on the web in a timely manner. The processing and embedding of copyright lines and website logos in the image probably result in further degradation of the image.
  • Bill
Scott Larson said:
DavidP said:
If what I'm seeing is really banding, it runs VERTICALLY in this shot.
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How about the curtains in fritzinger/b298.jpg? They are full of
noise although not extreme noise and there are certainly horizonal
bands running through them. There is one fairly bright band near
the top of the curtains, another dimmer one half way down them and
another still dimmer one three fourths of the way down the
curtains. Many other images have no banding I can see at all so
that's great.

This is certinaly an improvement (banding used to be visible in
even smaller reductions) but I'm stll concerned about what will
happen in very low-key lighting situtions like what DavidP finds
himself in regularly.
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--William Castleman http://www.wlcastleman.com
 
Scott,

Again the lines you see are post-camera processing artifacts. The original small jpg produced by the EOS-1D and firmware 1.3.0 produced a file as smooth and blemish free as Ms. Sapunar's young skin....even more so.
  • Bill
Scott Larson said:
Another interesting example is sapunar/a2145.jpg. You can see
banding above the gymnast but it's much less severe, except for one
mysterious dark line that starts at the top of the image and goes
vertically down to her upper right calf.
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--William Castleman http://www.wlcastleman.com
 
Should be a GREAT camera. Almost wishing I'd got one. LOL. I think I'll wait for the price to be $4999, though . . . and wait a few more weeks to see what (if anything) is announced at Cebit (I think that's the name -- somewhere in Germany, I think?).

Now, if only I could get a commission on the sales. ;)
Chris K. said:
Thanks for the tip David. I have the 2nd of the two that were
available.
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--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
 
William,

Fantastic shots. Thanks for sharing!

How does the 1D's shutter release compare to the D30's? Personally I find the D30's lag to be frustratingly long when shooting sports. I also dislike the "switch" feel of the release button. I much prefer the progessive pressure style.

I also find the shutter release lag to vary tremendously. It would seem the computer can slow things down when it wants to. Is the 1D's more instantaneous, without the microprocessor induced delay?

Look forward to your review, but if you would touch on the shutter release now, I'd surely appreciate it.

Thanks again for the samples!
--Peter B.www.gpsriders.com
 
D-30 has 200ms shutter lag
D-60 has 100ms shutter lag
1-D has 57ms shutter lag

(I think those are correct)
Peter Jones said:
How does the 1D's shutter release compare to the D30's? Personally
I find the D30's lag to be frustratingly long when shooting sports.
I also dislike the "switch" feel of the release button. I much
prefer the progessive pressure style.
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--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
 
Peter,

The EOS-1D has no perceptible shutter lag. The first time I went out to shoot with it, I had to readjust my timing for getting peak action shots. I used to have to anticipate and fire before the peak moment to get the shot I wanted with the D30. With the 1D, you press the shutter release and have the image.

The EOS-1D seems to have less shutter lag that the EOS-1v (Is this really possible?) Photojournalists have commented on the web about the lack of shutter lag with the EOS-1D

When I bought the EOS-1D, I had intended to keep the D-30 because it has produced beautiful images for me. Unfortunately, every time I took the D-30 with me to an event, I missed too many shots because of its pathetic autofocus function and long shutter and electronic lag.

I sold my D-30. After getting an EOS-1D, the D-30 seemed too much like a toy camera.
  • Bill
Peter Jones said:
William,

Fantastic shots. Thanks for sharing!

How does the 1D's shutter release compare to the D30's? Personally
I find the D30's lag to be frustratingly long when shooting sports.
I also dislike the "switch" feel of the release button. I much
prefer the progessive pressure style.

I also find the shutter release lag to vary tremendously. It would
seem the computer can slow things down when it wants to. Is the
1D's more instantaneous, without the microprocessor induced delay?

Look forward to your review, but if you would touch on the shutter
release now, I'd surely appreciate it.

Thanks again for the samples!

--
Peter B.
http://www.gpsriders.com
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--William Castleman http://www.wlcastleman.com
 
I',ll be calling tomorrow, but I don't think they do. I would be great if they
do since their price isn't as jacked up as everbody elses.

Regards,
Chris
http://pbase.com/c_kuiphoff
DavidP said:
I'd definitely want a backup if I orderd the camera. I've heard
the batteries are in short supply.
Chris K. said:
Thanks. If you get any tips on batteries, let me know. ;-)
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--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
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You are right, David, about them being the same. However, I believe they are both rated at 55 ms
DavidP said:
William Castleman said:
The EOS-1D seems to have less shutter lag that the EOS-1v (Is this
really possible?) Photojournalists have commented on the web about
the lack of shutter lag with the EOS-1D
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--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
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--William Castleman http://www.wlcastleman.com
 
Hi, thank you for the helpful information. I too am close to purchasing a 1D and will use for gymnastics work. My question is wheter one has to take photos in RAW + jpg to avoid banding or if simply taking in large jpg will be sufficient to avoid banding. How much difference in banding between the two formats. I'd like to put as many photos as possible on a CF card and the RAW files take more space.
Thanks
William Castleman said:
The IS0 1600 shots have more general noise and some banding. I
shot this in RAW + small jpg mode. The small jpg's are on the
website. I printed a few of these out full size (12 x 18) on my
Epson 1270, and they look great. Image quality is much better than
I am aware can be produced with any other mass produced camera at
ISO 1600 (film or digital).
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I don't think the banding cares what format you use.
PatK said:
Hi, thank you for the helpful information. I too am close to
purchasing a 1D and will use for gymnastics work. My question is
wheter one has to take photos in RAW + jpg to avoid banding or if
simply taking in large jpg will be sufficient to avoid banding.
How much difference in banding between the two formats. I'd like
to put as many photos as possible on a CF card and the RAW files
take more space.
Thanks
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My experience is the same.
Al Goldis said:
PatK said:
Hi, thank you for the helpful information. I too am close to
purchasing a 1D and will use for gymnastics work. My question is
wheter one has to take photos in RAW + jpg to avoid banding or if
simply taking in large jpg will be sufficient to avoid banding.
How much difference in banding between the two formats. I'd like
to put as many photos as possible on a CF card and the RAW files
take more space.
Thanks
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--William Castleman http://www.wlcastleman.com
 
Thank you both for the information. Very helpful. Unfortunately, you are helping me towards a purchase that will take a long time to pay for itself! :-)

Best regards,
--Peter B.www.gpsriders.com
 
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