Hybrid NiMH, Eneloop

I saw Radio Shack advertise house-branded pre-charged batteries as
well. I do not know if they make their own or rebrand of the other
brands. I saw them in their April promo.
Radio Shack products are rebranded, sometimes at a higher price. I bought a pair of headphones there once, reg price $40, sale price $20. Seemed like a good deal but I noticed they were made by Sure. On Amazon I was able to get the same Sure branded headphones for $13. Radio Shack Rip-Off.

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I just got 36 AA 2500ma's off Ebay for just a little over $1.00 each.

I am sure the Eneloops are better ..... but just too expensive yet to replace in everything I own.
Has anyone tried the new batteries?
I have heard that there are three mfrs. Rayovac, Sanyo, Hybrio.
I am specifically interested in AA cells.
Also, what about experience with chargers?
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Eneloops and all Sanyos, in my experience and testing, deliver the
specified capacity which is + -10% of marked. Many don't deliver
even 70% of marked capacity in my experience. That could be a
difference.
I don't know much about test NiMH properly but with my dslr, no
NiMH work satisfactorily except Eneloop which seems to last
forever. I don't really care what the labels say but it work.
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I bought a couple sets of Rayovac hybrids some weeks ago. Popped one set into a camera and went out to shoot. About 15 shots in, the batteries died. I dropped in my spares, Energizer lithium (always, always carry at least three sets). A week later, I changed the regular NIMH batteries in my other body, dropping in the second set of Rayovacs. I got about 40 shots and they died.

They've been recharged now, but I'm still running the lithium Energizers. I find those give me from 1,200 to 1,400 shots, which is giving me some second thoughts about even bothering with rechargeables. The savings may not be worth the hassle.

I was disappointed in the original run of both sets of Rayovacs. Some time in the next week or so, I should be changing to them again. Maybe freshly charged hybrids will live up to the hype.

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Maybe it's because you're comparing older, worn out batteries to
new ones. Battery capacity degrades over time.
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I have set of enloops and, yes I find that my 3-4 year NiMH batteries will lose most of their charge in 24-48 hours unless kept in the charger.

I wonder what the life span of Enloops are?

Robert

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I was disappointed in the original run of both sets of Rayovacs.
Some time in the next week or so, I should be changing to them
again. Maybe freshly charged hybrids will live up to the hype.
Sounds like all of the new low self-discharge "hybrids" are not the same. Those using Eneloops have all reported good performance. I've yet to put mine to any extensive use, but so far the first set is still going strong.

--mamallama
 
Thanks, everyone, for providing good, useful information.

I have read, since my first post, a suggestion that it is better to
have a charger that monitors the individual, rather than dual cells
when charging. Does that make sense? Does anyone have a charger
that monitors individual cells?
Thomas Distributing on the internet sells almost every charger and battery made. There are several that monitor each battery with an LCD readout of each cell.

Robert--
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I just got 36 AA 2500ma's off Ebay for just a little over $1.00 each.

I am sure the Eneloops are better ..... but just too expensive yet
to replace in everything I own.
I got some bargain 2500 mah AA NiMH and found them frustrating and a waste of time. I have a shoebox full and am ready to take them to the recycling center. In NiMH rechargeables, I found you get what you pay for. In the long run I think my Eneloops will be cheaper at $2.75 each.

--mamallama
 
I was disappointed in the original run of both sets of Rayovacs.
Some time in the next week or so, I should be changing to them
again. Maybe freshly charged hybrids will live up to the hype.
Sounds like all of the new low self-discharge "hybrids" are not the
same. Those using Eneloops have all reported good performance. I've
yet to put mine to any extensive use, but so far the first set is
still going strong.
And I get extraordinary performance from the Uniross Hybrios that I use, way better than the allegedly 2500mAH Sanyos that I used previously despite have a lower quoted rating.

Royovac is a brand I've never used so I can't comment.

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Exactly my feeling, Steve.

I have tons of "regular" rechargeables. 1100 mAh, 1300, 1500, 1800, 2000, 2100, 2300, 2500. I give them away for free. The Eneloops (and similar ones I guess) are from another world.
I've been using both Sanyo Eneloops and Ray-O-Vac Hybrids and have
gotten excellent results from them. I use the same chargers I did
for years with the miserable standard-type NiMH batteries with
which we were burdened before this wonderful new group of them
appeared.
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-- Andreas --

 
I was disappointed in the original run of both sets of Rayovacs.
Some time in the next week or so, I should be changing to them
again. Maybe freshly charged hybrids will live up to the hype.
Sounds like all of the new low self-discharge "hybrids" are not the
same. Those using Eneloops have all reported good performance. I've
yet to put mine to any extensive use, but so far the first set is
still going strong.
Yes. Eneloops are not yet available out here in the boonies. I've also heard that others have had good results with Rayovac hybrids, and it's possible I simply got two old sets from the same batch, though buying them 10 days apart would seem to say no to that.

I'll get a chance to try them out in a couple more weeks and see how the first charge holds up.

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Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com
 
I saw Radio Shack advertise house-branded pre-charged batteries as
well. I do not know if they make their own or rebrand of the other
brands. I saw them in their April promo.
Radio Shack products are rebranded, sometimes at a higher price. I
bought a pair of headphones there once, reg price $40, sale price
$20. Seemed like a good deal but I noticed they were made by Sure.
On Amazon I was able to get the same Sure branded headphones for
$13. Radio Shack Rip-Off.
They did have IC-3 house-brand batteries in the past, so that could point to Rayovac, although after the sale of Rayovac, I'm not sure what happened to IC-3.
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