Photoshop PC New Build recommendatinos

chrisg_75 · Apr 22, 2007

Hi Guys

Looking foradvice here. Pretty much a noob but have done a little investigatino to get things started. There are some things im not sure of yet so ill list and see how we go

Looking for a new pc predominantly for heavy photoshop use.

Case - Not sure of any special requirements except that it can house what is needed. I know there ar lots that come with built in PSU's. I checked at the local computer fair and they ranged form 450w up to 600w so not sure what i need. Cases ranged form about $45aud up to over $150. WHat is the big difference.

PSU - relates to the case but not sure what size i am after

MoBo - Was looking at Gigabyte GA965P DS3 / DS3P / DS4 / DQ6. Saw all of these at the fair and not sure what my requirements would be with regards to these. I was thinking maybe DS3P ??

CPU - Porbably looking at intel E6600 anyreason to change this ?

HDD - I already have a 74gig and 140 gig (dont think they are sata, couple of years old atleast and not 10K rpm). Have been looking at 74gig 10000rpm to run the OS and apps. DO i need the 10K rpm hdd or 7200 rpm ok ?? All would be Sata. Not sure what the older ones are that i have yet. Have to check I can always just keep the older machine for storage once completed kind of thing.

RAM - Not sure what i need for this really I know there is heaps of types with regards to speed etc but i know i would get 2gig

Sound - happy with the MoBo sound i think

Video - not sure here really either. Was looking at the 7300GT or 7600GT but then there are the GS versions as well. And 256Mb as opposed to 512Mb. Not sure what i would require.

The only other thing i guess i need is cooling fan ?????

Thanks for any help and other suggestions

Cheers
Chris

celltech161 · Apr 22, 2007

chrisg_75 said:
Looking foradvice here. Pretty much a noob but have done a little
investigatino to get things started. There are some things im not
sure of yet so ill list and see how we go

I'm also looking to build a similar setup for Photoshop and also for rendering DV with Vegas7. I hope you don't mind me replying here so I can track the replies. I haven't paid much attention to any of the latest advances in processors/motherboards since i bought my last Pentium 4 - so I have no clue what is "hot" at the moment.

Thanks,
Justin

bullet1 · Apr 22, 2007

chrisg_75 said:
Hi Guys

Looking foradvice here. Pretty much a noob but have done a little
investigatino to get things started. There are some things im not
sure of yet so ill list and see how we go

Looking for a new pc predominantly for heavy photoshop use.

PhotoShop places some demands on the CPU, memory and disk but not much on the graphics system. It is all 2D work.

chrisg_75 said:
Case - Not sure of any special requirements except that it can
house what is needed. I know there ar lots that come with built in
PSU's. I checked at the local computer fair and they ranged form
450w up to 600w so not sure what i need. Cases ranged form about
$45aud up to over $150. WHat is the big difference.

This is the case I use for my recent two builds. It ventilates well and requires no tools to put in drives.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068

chrisg_75 said:
PSU - relates to the case but not sure what size i am after

This is the one I use and like. I tried some cheaper ones but they are not as good or quiet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171007

chrisg_75 said:
MoBo - Was looking at Gigabyte GA965P DS3 / DS3P / DS4 / DQ6. Saw
all of these at the fair and not sure what my requirements would be
with regards to these. I was thinking maybe DS3P ??

Any Intel P965 or G965 chipset based MB will work. I tend to like Intel MBs as I do not OC. This is the one I used for my recent Core2 Duo E6600 build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121053

chrisg_75 said:
CPU - Porbably looking at intel E6600 anyreason to change this ?

No. But I would recommend getting a better CPU cooler. I use this one. It is quiet and does the job well. If you intent to OC, you might need a more powerful one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835103001

chrisg_75 said:
HDD - I already have a 74gig and 140 gig (dont think they are sata,
couple of years old atleast and not 10K rpm). Have been looking at
74gig 10000rpm to run the OS and apps. DO i need the 10K rpm hdd or
7200 rpm ok ?? All would be Sata. Not sure what the older ones are
that i have yet. Have to check I can always just keep the older
machine for storage once completed kind of thing.

Unless you are a speed freak for random access, you don't need 10,000 rpm drives. Put your money in a 300 to 500GB SATA2 drive, you'll be fine. If you want throughput get two identical drives and put them in RAID0. I use 3 Seagate SATA2 drives, two are configured as RAID 0.

chrisg_75 said:
RAM - Not sure what i need for this really I know there is heaps of
types with regards to speed etc but i know i would get 2gig

It would likely be DDR2 800 (PC2 6400). I use this pair because it matches my Intel MB memory timing requirement.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820211066

chrisg_75 said:
Sound - happy with the MoBo sound i think

The MB sound is OK but not great. If you want better sound, you can put another one in. I don't play games but do a lot of music listening. I like Turtle Beach cards. I have been using the TB Catalina card for my last two computers. I just move it out of the old and put into the new one. It has both digital in and out. If you just need digital out, this one should work great.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829118105

If you need digital in and out, here is the one that looks like the followon to Catalina.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829118109

chrisg_75 said:
Video - not sure here really either. Was looking at the 7300GT or
7600GT but then there are the GS versions as well. And 256Mb as
opposed to 512Mb. Not sure what i would require.

I use a 7600GS based card to drive a Dell 3007WFP, a 30" S-IPS based monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121008

chrisg_75 said:
The only other thing i guess i need is cooling fan ?????

The case I recommended has two fans, a quiet 120mm in the back and an 80mm in the front. The front fan blows air directly through the hard drives.

chrisg_75 said:
Thanks for any help and other suggestions

Good luck!
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trh · Apr 23, 2007

Do not Raid0 on any data you care about. Raid 0 has better performance than a single drive but if either drive fails, you loose it all. (Your odds double with 2 drives) It has no redunancy. Raid 01,10,1,5 all have redundancy or parity.

If you use a case with Matching intake and exhaust fans, it will keep the case inside cleaner. You want positive pressure (little more intake than exhaust) inside the case. If air moves too fast through the case, it will dust up quicker. Its a balancing act between cooling and pressure.

I have used nothing but Lian-Li cases in the last 5 builds. A bit costly, but well worth it. I prefer drive bays not be tooless.
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bullet1 · Apr 23, 2007

trh said:
Do not Raid0 on any data you care about. Raid 0 has better
performance than a single drive but if either drive fails, you
loose it all. (Your odds double with 2 drives) It has no redunancy.
Raid 01,10,1,5 all have redundancy or parity.

That's all true in theory. Let's say a regular drive can last 7-10 years. A RAID0 at its worst scenario would be half of that, 3.5 to 5 years. People replace PCs about every three years and replace their hard drives even more often than that.

I have had good luck with RAID0 for more than 3 years. Just make sure you have a good backup and you should be fine. I always keep three copies of the same data. The backup drives are never in RAID0.

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trh · Apr 23, 2007

The length of time is not the issue with raid 0. The fact you now have 2 drives, instead of one sharing data, means that if either drive fails, you loose all your data.

If you don't mind reinstalling your OS/APPS, by all means use raid 0. And to use it for data back-up is insane.

By using raid 01/10 you have redundancy and protection. Its not much of a performance hit over 0 either. Raid 5 with parity is great also but you will take a performance hit on CPU cycles though.

I've been using raid- 4 drive 5 and 10 for some time now and I keep a clone separate in a safe. But I still prefer not wasting time reinstalling my stuff when 10 or 5 makes it so easy.
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Barry Fitzgerald · Apr 23, 2007

chrisg_75 said:
Hi Guys

Looking foradvice here. Pretty much a noob but have done a little
investigatino to get things started. There are some things im not
sure of yet so ill list and see how we go

Looking for a new pc predominantly for heavy photoshop use.

Case - Not sure of any special requirements except that it can
house what is needed. I know there ar lots that come with built in
PSU's. I checked at the local computer fair and they ranged form
450w up to 600w so not sure what i need. Cases ranged form about
$45aud up to over $150. WHat is the big difference.

Quality varies a lot...I use Antec..nice cases..good PSU's...ad quiet.

chrisg_75 said:
PSU - relates to the case but not sure what size i am after

Sonata II is 450watts..more than enough.

chrisg_75 said:
MoBo - Was looking at Gigabyte GA965P DS3 / DS3P / DS4 / DQ6. Saw
all of these at the fair and not sure what my requirements would be
with regards to these. I was thinking maybe DS3P ??

Up to you here........

chrisg_75 said:
CPU - Porbably looking at intel E6600 anyreason to change this ?

Nope

chrisg_75 said:
HDD - I already have a 74gig and 140 gig (dont think they are sata,
couple of years old atleast and not 10K rpm). Have been looking at
74gig 10000rpm to run the OS and apps. DO i need the 10K rpm hdd or
7200 rpm ok ?? All would be Sata. Not sure what the older ones are
that i have yet. Have to check I can always just keep the older
machine for storage once completed kind of thing.

Forget 10K..waste of cash...

chrisg_75 said:
RAM - Not sure what i need for this really I know there is heaps of
types with regards to speed etc but i know i would get 2gig

Crucial are the best...

chrisg_75 said:
Sound - happy with the MoBo sound i think

Indeed...no reason to change this unless you do heavy soundwork..

chrisg_75 said:
Video - not sure here really either. Was looking at the 7300GT or
7600GT but then there are the GS versions as well. And 256Mb as
opposed to 512Mb. Not sure what i would require.

7600GS is pretty good.......

chrisg_75 said:
The only other thing i guess i need is cooling fan ?????

Check out thermaltakes range...good prices...quiet most of em..and they work well

chrisg_75 said:
Thanks for any help and other suggestions

Have fun building it!

chrisg_75 said:
Cheers
Chris

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bullet1 · Apr 23, 2007

My record is 0 in 10 years. It really does not matter even with 1 drive. When it fails, you lose data also.
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Scott Goosman · Apr 23, 2007

There is a lot to reccomend and suggest.

Case: Buy what you like. Higher price generally are better built with more features. Things I look for: Motherboard tray(usually expensive), toolless design, harddrive bay facing the case door. This is really up to you, your tastes and budget. Do not buy a PSU that comes with a case

PSU: Most overlooked component and the one people skimp on. DON'T many problems spawn from this component including stability. I'd overspec this device with a 550watt to 650 watt model. There are many good brands seasonic, pc power and cooling, enermax, etc.... Stick to one of these or another excellent brand

memory: Get DDR800 from corsair, ocz, mushkin and you won't regret it. Make sure the memory has heatspreaders Don't spend a fortune unless you plan on overclocking. Oh make sure you get a 2x1 gig pair. They are designed to work together

CPU E6600 is fine, plus in september intel is upgrading the chips and dropping prices so don't blow a fortune.

Vid card: I would not get the 7600gs and here is why. It has only 1 DVI slot. If you intend to run 2 monitors this card will be lacking. I'd spend a little more and get a 8600 card since it supports DX10 and thats the future. Not sure if the ATI counterpart is out. The ATI 1950xt is a great value too, faster than the Nvidia counterpart.

Sound Onboard is great!

MoBo: I like the Asus P5B Wifi. Lots of feeatures built right in. I've built one(for a friend) and it's a breeze. The bios is well developed so it will be easy going. I'm running a nvidia 680i which is a headache right now.

Harddrive: Do not run Raid 0. You are making yourself 4 times more likely for trouble unless you want the trouble for the extra speed. If either drive fails you are SOL and will require a complete reinstall. You can use a 10K drive, I do but it's not neccessary. One thing to consider is running raid 5 with 3 or more drives. This will give you the capacity of (n-1)xHarddrive capacity. The drives have parity so if one dies, you can replace it and the raid will rebuild the data! 500 giggers are cheap now.

Hope this helps

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Scott Goosman · Apr 23, 2007

On the video card: Should be the 1950Pro not the xt version. Sorry
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Barry Fitzgerald · Apr 23, 2007

Scott Goosman said:
There is a lot to reccomend and suggest.

Scott Goosman said:
PSU: Most overlooked component and the one people skimp on. DON'T
many problems spawn from this component including stability. I'd
overspec this device with a 550watt to 650 watt model. There are
many good brands seasonic, pc power and cooling, enermax, etc....
Stick to one of these or another excellent brand

No need for 600watts...only die hard gamers need apply...this info is simply put "WRONG"

Buy a decent brand yes..but you dont need that power..nowhere near it..

Scott Goosman said:
memory: Get DDR800 from corsair, ocz, mushkin and you won't regret
it. Make sure the memory has heatspreaders Don't spend a fortune
unless you plan on overclocking. Oh make sure you get a 2x1 gig
pair. They are designed to work together

Crucial are the best...no contest..beat zero failures ever! best compatibility out of all.

Scott Goosman said:
Vid card: I would not get the 7600gs and here is why. It has only
1 DVI slot. If you intend to run 2 monitors this card will be
lacking. I'd spend a little more and get a 8600 card since it
supports DX10 and thats the future. Not sure if the ATI
counterpart is out. The ATI 1950xt is a great value too, faster
than the Nvidia counterpart.

Gamer talk...pointless.

You can get dual DVI on the 7600 GS MSI do one for starters...

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Go ahead punch the numers in...so much misinformation on this forum its not even funny anymore!
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Scott Goosman · Apr 23, 2007

Barry Fitzgerald said:
Scott Goosman said:

There is a lot to reccomend and suggest.

Click to expand...

Member said:

PSU: Most overlooked component and the one people skimp on. DON'T
many problems spawn from this component including stability. I'd
overspec this device with a 550watt to 650 watt model. There are
many good brands seasonic, pc power and cooling, enermax, etc....
Stick to one of these or another excellent brand

Click to expand...

No need for 600watts...only die hard gamers need apply...this info
is simply put "WRONG"

Buy a decent brand yes..but you dont need that power..nowhere near
it..

Sigh Ignorance is bliss! Well lets see.
1) the the less load on the PSU, the greater the efficiancy.
2) Runs quieter
3) Increased stability
4) upgradability

This goes on and on and on. If you want to investigate there is a huge community. Go look it up. Here I'll give you some help http://www.silentpcreview.com/

Mainly it's an issue of stability plus lower frequency variation which all leads to stability. Now if those are gamer issues then I guess the whole world is gamers. Plus if you start adding up the the power demands. Once again let me help you here:

http://www.pcpower.com/technology/power_usage/

You quickly see you start to tax a nice 400 watt power supply quickly! Then there are more issues. The Wattage rated is typically max peak load and not sustainable. Many of these PSU's will just die if they are maintained at the claimed load plus they'll heat up and probably fry some other hardware inside.

Moral? Nothing to do with gamers but thanks for the jumping to judgement.

Member said:
Member said:

memory: Get DDR800 from corsair, ocz, mushkin and you won't regret
it. Make sure the memory has heatspreaders Don't spend a fortune
unless you plan on overclocking. Oh make sure you get a 2x1 gig
pair. They are designed to work together

Click to expand...

Crucial are the best...no contest..beat zero failures ever! best
compatibility out of all.

Crucial is fine too. Zero failure rate? What are you talking about I've had to return stuff to the manufactuer before. FYI for those who don't know Crucial is Micron Technologies Memory retail wing.

Member said:
Member said:

Vid card: I would not get the 7600gs and here is why. It has only
1 DVI slot. If you intend to run 2 monitors this card will be
lacking. I'd spend a little more and get a 8600 card since it
supports DX10 and thats the future. Not sure if the ATI
counterpart is out. The ATI 1950xt is a great value too, faster
than the Nvidia counterpart.

Click to expand...

Gamer talk...pointless.

DX10 is gamer talk? You know it's only supported by Vista and incorporated into the aero package? Theres a host of reasons like HDCP support too. Then if you ever plan on running multiple 30 inch monitors, good luck!! So gamer talk? Not at all.

Cheers, Scott

Member said:
You can get dual DVI on the 7600 GS MSI do one for starters...

Member said:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Go ahead punch the numers in...so much misinformation on this forum
its not even funny anymore!
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celltech161 · Apr 23, 2007

Scott Goosman said:
DX10 is gamer talk? You know it's only supported by Vista and
incorporated into the aero package? Theres a host of reasons like
HDCP support too. Then if you ever plan on running multiple 30
inch monitors, good luck!! So gamer talk? Not at all.

It's okay, Scott. Nobody listens to him anyway. At least nobody that knows his track record of spewing BS. But otherwise, the advice we're getting is helpful.

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Tage Bjorklund · Apr 23, 2007

I just upgraded myself because I bought an iPF5000 printer and my old computer was too slow.

this is my advice, I am no expert but I have been running my own inhouse computer department since 1989...

chrisg_75 said:
Hi Guys

Looking foradvice here. Pretty much a noob but have done a little
investigatino to get things started. There are some things im not
sure of yet so ill list and see how we go

Looking for a new pc predominantly for heavy photoshop use.

Case - Not sure of any special requirements except that it can
house what is needed. I know there ar lots that come with built in
PSU's. I checked at the local computer fair and they ranged form
450w up to 600w so not sure what i need. Cases ranged form about
$45aud up to over $150. WHat is the big difference.

trying to save money here is usually not a good idea if you frequently upgrade your computer. pick a good quality case with good cooling and easy access. my present case is an Antec tower with plenty of room for additional harddrives and very low noise.

chrisg_75 said:
PSU - relates to the case but not sure what size i am after

power supplies are cheap and you can always replace it easily if you need to. when you know your mother board and video card power requirement you can select the power supply. a silent fan may be a good choice if your case is silent, you don't want the power supply fan to scream.

chrisg_75 said:
MoBo - Was looking at Gigabyte GA965P DS3 / DS3P / DS4 / DQ6. Saw
all of these at the fair and not sure what my requirements would be
with regards to these. I was thinking maybe DS3P ??

CPU - Porbably looking at intel E6600 anyreason to change this ?

read up on the latest and try to figure out where technology is going (good luck) so that your system is upgradeable without too much investment.

look at your motherboard as another computer part that needs upgrading in three years.
get at least a dual core CPU

chrisg_75 said:
HDD - I already have a 74gig and 140 gig (dont think they are sata,
couple of years old atleast and not 10K rpm). Have been looking at
74gig 10000rpm to run the OS and apps. DO i need the 10K rpm hdd or
7200 rpm ok ?? All would be Sata. Not sure what the older ones are
that i have yet. Have to check I can always just keep the older
machine for storage once completed kind of thing.

SATA drives of course, I would not care about trying ot build RAID unless you know exactly what you are doing and think tha the big trouble is worth the effort.

chrisg_75 said:
RAM - Not sure what i need for this really I know there is heaps of
types with regards to speed etc but i know i would get 2gig

at least 2G

chrisg_75 said:
Sound - happy with the MoBo sound i think

sound is hardly an issue if you are focusing on Photoshop

chrisg_75 said:
Video - not sure here really either. Was looking at the 7300GT or
7600GT but then there are the GS versions as well. And 256Mb as
opposed to 512Mb. Not sure what i would require.

I think the possibility to use two monitors is something worth considering.

chrisg_75 said:
The only other thing i guess i need is cooling fan ?????

Thanks for any help and other suggestions

Cheers
Chris

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chrisg_75 · Apr 23, 2007

Thanx for all the replies guys

I am narrowing things down i think. The more you look and read the more confused you get and more into opinions rather than fact to a certain extent. A couple more minor questions now

I will get intel E6600 CPU
MoBo i think GA 965P DS3P (i think)
PSU above 450W at least and good brand

Now with the GPU anyone able to tell me if the 7300GT is capable of running dua monitors at all ??

with the RAM do i need DDR2 667 or 800 ??? What is benefit is it worth it etc

Thanx again

Chris

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Vernon D Rainwater · Apr 23, 2007

celltech161 said:
Scott Goosman said:

DX10 is gamer talk? You know it's only supported by Vista and
incorporated into the aero package? Theres a host of reasons like
HDCP support too. Then if you ever plan on running multiple 30
inch monitors, good luck!! So gamer talk? Not at all.

Click to expand...

It's okay, Scott. Nobody listens to him anyway. At least nobody
that knows his track record of spewing BS. But otherwise, the
advice we're getting is helpful.

YES, there are those that listen to him (Barry Fitzgerald).. In fact, He seems to be a VERY logical person regarding his recommendations for Computer Configuration devices and equipment.

I started in this business probably before many of the participants were born into this great world and (after many of my own mistakes) I have the ability to evaluate when a person knows what He/She is talking about.......

I have checked out ALL the items He has suggested in response to my inquiries and I have NOT found even one bad piece of advice.
Barry does NOT "over sell his talents" and is very logical.
NOW -- continue and go ahead with the original subject of the Thread.

celltech161 said:
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trh · Apr 24, 2007

I agree with Vernon about Barry. I will say I do prefer to go with a larger PSU. My present build uses a Corsair 620 watt which runs around 84-85% efficientcy at 50% power usage.

But I also have a 940DC, 7 HDD's, An Ultimate x1950pro, 6 120mm fans, 2 740 Plextors, ect. And even under heavy load, the HX620 runs cool and silent.
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zenom11 · Apr 24, 2007

WHICH ONES TO BUY ??

Tier 1 can handle 4Ghz Conroe or 3Ghz AMD along with Oced Quad Crossfire/SLI With Ease.

Tier Z offers quality and power unequalled in its wattage range and is second only to other Zippy units.

Tier 2 offers almost as much power and stability as Tier 1 at Comparable Wattage levels with lower price/better availability.

Tier T offers the high quality components of Tier 2 with slightly less Rail stability due to Topower internals.

Tier 3 is ONLY Recommended if Price difference is present between Tier 3 and Tier 2 or due to availability issues with Tier 1/2 PSUs.

Tier 4 is recommended for stock or low power systems if Tier 3's are more expensive or are not available.

Tier 5 are NOT RECOMMENDED, but some brands have high/medium quality components in Tiers 2 through 4.

Tier 1 Brands - The Most Powerful And Stable Components On The Market
Enermax Galaxy
PCP&C TurboCool
PCP&C Silencer > 610
Zippy/Emacs SSL
Zippy/Emacs GSM
Zippy/Emacs PSL
Silverstone ZF (Etasis 85/75/56)
Seventeam ST > 600 (SSI, V2.91)
Silverstone OP/DA > 700W

Tier Z - Less Powerful Than Tier 1 Zippy Units...but they're still Zippys
Zippy/Emacs HG2
Zippy/Emacs HP2

Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1
Antec Neo HE
Akasa PowerGreen 80+
CoolMax CTG-750W/850W/1KW
Cooltek CT
Corsair HX
Enermax Liberty
Enermax Infiniti
Enhance ENP-GH
Fortron (FSP) GLN
Hiper Type-M > 650W
Hiper Type-R > 650W
iStarUSA PD2
iStarUSA PD3
OCZ GameXStream
OCZ EvoStream
PCP&C Silencer
Seasonic S12
Seasonic M12
Seasonic Energy Plus
SevenTeam ST
Silverstone EF
Silverstone OP/DA
Supermicro/AbleCom
Thermaltake Toughpower > 600W
Xclio GreatPower
Zalman ZM
Ultra X3
Ultra X-Pro

Tier T - High Quality PSUs Made With Topower Internals - Less Rail Stability Compared To Tier 2 But Still Better than Tier 3
Mushkin Enhanced
Tagan U95
Tagan U25
Tagan U15
Tagan U22
OCZ PowerStream

Tier 3 Brands - High Quality and Stability, Second Only To Tier 2 Brands
Acbel Polycom
AMS Mercury
Akasa PaxPower
Akasa PowerPlus (> 500W Models)
Antec Phantom
Antec TruePower III
Antec True Power II
Antec True Control II
Antec Neopower 480W (Old Model)
Antec Smart Power 2.0
Athena Power Space Shuttle Series
Be Quiet Dark Power Pro
Channel Well
Enermax Maximum Plus
Enermax Noistaker II
Enermax Noisetaker
Enermax Whisper II
Enermax CoolerGiant
Enhance ENS-G
Epower Xscale
Fortron (FSP) GLC
Fortron (FSP) THN
Fortron AX
Fortron HLN
Fortron PFN/PN/PA
Seasonic Super Versatile
Silverstone F
Sparkle FSP
Spire Rocketeer V/VI
Sunbeam Nuuo
Thermaltake Purepower
Thermaltake Toughpower

Tier 4 - Not Recommend With Tier 3 In same Price/Wattage Range
Aerocool
Asus Atlas
BFG
Coolermaster Real Power
Coolermaster iGreen
Delta
Enlight
E-Power
Futurepower
Hiper
HIPRO
Lite-On
Masscool
MGE XG
Mushkin HP
NorthQ 4775-500S/BU
OCZ Modstream
Scythe Kamariki
Sintek
Thermaltake TR2
TTGI/Superflower
Ultra Xfinity/X2

Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED
A-TOP Technology
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Cooler Master
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
EagleTech
FOXCONN
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Wintech
XClio
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics

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chrisg_75 · Apr 24, 2007

Thanx again for the replies. I will keep that l;ist of PSU's when i go shopping.

I will get intel E6600 CPU
MoBo i think GA 965P DS3P (i think)
PSU above 450W at least and good brand

Now with the GPU anyone able to tell me if the 7300GT is capable of running dua monitors at all ??

with the RAM do i need DDR2 667 or 800 ??? What is benefit is it worth it etc

Thanx again

Chris

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