D80 updated

sparky52t · Apr 13, 2007

I'm currently the owner of a 6 year old Kodak DC4800 and am saving "as fast as I can" for a true digital slr. My final choice will be between an Olympus 510, a Nikon D80 and maybe a Canon Digital Rebel (I do hate that name).

I'd like to wait until Nikon rolls out the next generation of D80, presumably with some sort of dust reduction process. Is there a cycle or pattern to Nikon's "new camera" introduction? Any ideas when they'll introduce new product?

Michael Edward Rudge · Apr 13, 2007

I would not worry too much about dust, It is no big deal, I have a D80, and 18-135 kit lens, and a 50mm ,,1.8 prime , and no dust problems, after six months, and its been to the Maldives twice, I think it is a cracking camera.

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TheronFamily · Apr 13, 2007

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Jeff Maanum · Apr 13, 2007

--No one NEEDS a dust removal system. Just use common sense when changing lenses and blow the sensor off once in awhile.

hanham reds · Apr 13, 2007

I also have a D80 with the 18-135mm and a 50mm F\1.8 lens, I've had the camera for about two months and have probably swapped lens at least twice a week, I always keep the camera pointed down and have never seen any dust on my photo's.

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gnagel · Apr 13, 2007

I also have a D80. I've had the camera since December and have not yet seen any dust on my photos.

I swap lenses constantly. If I need a different lens to get a shot, I change lenses. If I get dust on my sensor, I'll have to learn how to clean the sensor. But, I refuse to worry about switching lenses when I'm trying to get a particular image.

Glenn

hanham reds said:
I also have a D80 with the 18-135mm and a 50mm F\1.8 lens, I've had
the camera for about two months and have probably swapped lens at
least twice a week, I always keep the camera pointed down and have
never seen any dust on my photo's.

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D80
DX 18- 135mm f/3.5 - 5.6 lens
50mm F/1.8 AF
SB600 & 70-300VR on wish list

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thomas2279 · Apr 13, 2007

No the D80 will not be updated at the present time; the next role out is expected to be in the summer and it is thought to be a pro body; perhaps a D2h replacement or a FF pro body.
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D Knisely · Apr 13, 2007

sparky52t said:
I'm currently the owner of a 6 year old Kodak DC4800 and am saving
"as fast as I can" for a true digital slr. My final choice will be
between an Olympus 510, a Nikon D80 and maybe a Canon Digital Rebel
(I do hate that name).
I'd like to wait until Nikon rolls out the next generation of D80,
presumably with some sort of dust reduction process. Is there a
cycle or pattern to Nikon's "new camera" introduction? Any ideas
when they'll introduce new product?

I don't think dust is a problem. I've gotten pretty complacent about lens changing after being extremely scared at the beginning (with a D50). A good (hand) blower will take off any spots (which are not that common) and they are easy to correct in PP (although annoying). Only once did I get some spots that would not come off with a blower for a couple of days. I ordered a cleaning kit (as recommended by strobist), but it remains unopened since a few days later when I checked again, the spots were all gone! Very strange... Must have been a static electricity issue, or just normal vibration?!?

Don't sweat it; it is not a big deal.

Doug

Steve Simpkin · Apr 13, 2007

sparky52t said:
I'd like to wait until Nikon rolls out the next generation of D80,
presumably with some sort of dust reduction process.

Just be aware that most of the current dust removal systems are not very effective. See:
http://pixinfo.com/en/articles/ccd-dust-removal/

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genece · Apr 13, 2007

I also had a 4800 and over the last 4 cameras everyone has been an improvement over that camera......I am sure you would be quite happy with any dslr and most of the new P&Ss.....

I would think maybe the D40 with the 18 to 135mm lens could keep you very happy for years to come.....And dust is not worth worring about.
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AllOtherNamesTaken · Apr 13, 2007

It's just passive. They do various things and they are as if not more effective than the active systems. Forget completely about dust removal when chosing a camera system as it is not at all important.

What you need to consider however, is the following (in my opinion):

1) Lens system: Which manufactuer has the lenses you want at the prices you want? I think you will find that Nikon has way more lenses that perform to 95% of their "pro" lenses for 1/3 the price or less. Also, they have the 18-200VR which is very popular and the amazing 70-300VR (cheap too!)

2) Ergonomics: Which camera do you like holding? The Canon rebel is plastic and when your hand is on the camera, your finger is not over the shutter button (I found that to be extremely annoying). It's also way too small for my hands. I think you will find the D80 built much better, nicer to hold, and the buttons in better places.

Those are the two main things, in my opinion.

Good luck with your decision, I hope this helps some!

Mark

JeanLeGrand · Apr 13, 2007

Just kidding. Mine is still alive, just a little cracked around the LCD. Too bad that the battery life is so bad, I think the Kodak colors and the 28mm Wide Angle are great features. The D80 is great, and I think you should need to know that the only cam with effective anti-dust weapon is the Olympus. A $15 Rocket blower is good enough to chase the dust bunnies away.

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DHCowboy · Apr 13, 2007

Haven't considered the Pentax K10D?

Might want to check that one out before making your mind up.
Not that you really need another possibility.. LOL!

Cheers!

P thorsteins · Apr 13, 2007

Hi,

I wouldn't be to concerned that the D80 doesn't have a dust reduction system. From most accounts this feature does not work well and is almost useless in reality.

I have had my D80 for 5 months and have yet to see any real issues related to dust. I am careful when changing lenses and the good thing is that the D80 has a number of dust minimization features built in. If you end up with a real dust problem on your sensor, the best thing is to have the camera either cleaned by Nikon, or to use a product like Visabledust (see http://www.visabledust.com )

See here for a list of the D80 dust minimization features http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Canon-Digital-Rebel-XTi-versus-Nikon-D80.shtml

I think there is a good reason that Nikon has not implemented this technology and that is that they know that it doesn't work.

I wish that I could shake my glass coffee table and have all the dust magically fall off. Most of the time I find I have to wipe it down to get it clean. Ok, Ok, a crude analogy but you get the point..

Have a great weekend.

All the best,

Jens (pete)

ConnPhoto · Apr 14, 2007

Mike:

That photo is gorgeous !!

Bootz · Apr 14, 2007

Sorry to disappoint you but the Olympus dust reduction system actually does function as advertised.

I suspect that's one reason why the Nikon 18-200mm VR is so popular -- it cuts down on the number of times you have to change lenses. I know that's mainly why I bought one.

Bootz
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Pete Stavrakoglou · Apr 14, 2007

That is one cracking photo!
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Roger J. Buffington · Apr 14, 2007

Jeff Maanum said:
--No one NEEDS a dust removal system. Just use common sense when
changing lenses and blow the sensor off once in awhile.

Agreed. Just buy a Rocket blower and you may need it once a year.
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Jim Hammond · Apr 14, 2007

I still have two Kodak DC4800 cameras that the kids now use. They still work great and have been a nice tool for learning. My wife has a Nikon CP4800 that she loves. It's a big jump to the D80, but if you've ever shot 35mm SLR cameras, you'll love the D80. Dust removing is not a big deal and the in-camera systems don't do much anyway.
JH

DStan · Apr 15, 2007

Bootz said:
Sorry to disappoint you but the Olympus dust reduction system
actually does function as advertised.

I suspect that's one reason why the Nikon 18-200mm VR is so popular
-- it cuts down on the number of times you have to change lenses. I
know that's mainly why I bought one.

Sorry to dissapoint you, but recent tests have shown the Olympus system to be the most effective but still useless. If it leaves any globs behind, it is useless.
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In the spirit of Occam’s Razor one should embrace the less complicated formulation or simply put, less is more.

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