Phil Askey! You Work for Camera Companies !?!

Be honest, we all know the foveon is a prototype, not even pre-production. Making such a fuzz about the samples in Lee's original post makes me feel Phil's reply is of quality wit! Nice one phil!

And kev, knowing english or not doesn't allow lee to understand the joke, really. Who is supposed to know all the CCD manufacturers in the world? Bet you Jonny Public thinks even sanyo makes their own ccd for their own cameras!

humps
either that or don't post while your trying to get off of caffeine.

if english is your second language that also would be a perfectly
acceptable excuse for not understanding the humor.
--humps
 
Dude...you need to take a chill pill.

I read the comments that concern you and IMHO, Phil was just being a bit facetious.

I wish my biggest worry in life was what a webmaster in the UK thought of me.....I'd be in pretty good shape then!
Phil, are you biased, selective in your subjects and assessements?
BTW, You don't work for Sharp, Sony, XXX or who ever pays you!
How dare you accuse me to work for sharp, Sony, Matshushita?
Your reply is not by chance and definately not witty!
I am truly saddened by your careless insensitivity!
Please retact your accusation forth with!

All DPR Forum members are waiting your reply ASAP!

Sincerely,
Jung Lee
Aww, and I thought it was fairly witty...

You don't work for Sharp, Sony or Matsushita by any chance?
--John MankosVisit my homepage at http://home.ptd.net/~mankman
 
If somebody is easily offended he or she has serious uncertainty about the values of himself (herself). It’s a defense mechanism.

Let’s be happy take some pictures or visit the PMA Show in Orlando instead of this childish argument!
--Apic
 
Besides they should be greatful for all ofhte work you have put in to this site for our benefit. I am sure it is a hobby of yours too, and I bet you make some money from it too. Regardless, it is rude to insult a man in his house and this is certainly your house.

Phil is right chill out already.
Some people just have real thin skin I guess. I can't imagine
being offended by either of the responses you gave that are being
disgussed in this thread. Oh well! What can you do?

Paul
Chill out guys.
I'm with Jung on this one.
This is the second uncalled for response I've read from Phil
today..the other being
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=2254276 .
Maybe things getting on top of him!
--Valliesto
 
Mr. Lee,

This is to inform you that you have offended me greatly by claiming that I demand an apology from Mr. Askey. I do not, and would like my name removed from your list. Also, you have cost me lost time in reading your pathatic sniveling posts, and I require compensation as time equals money, and I will never be able to get that time wasted reading your posts back. Those are MINUTES of my life gone forever. DO you understand MR. LEE?? My life is SHORTER because of YOU!

So therefore my lawyer will be contacting you and presenting a bill for one million US dollars for your wasting of my time not to mention my phsycological damage as a result of reading your posts, I now HATE ALL people with the last name of LEE, since I am lumping them all together as you lumped me into your group. It will take me years of therapy to like people named Lee again. Also my medical bills from laughing so hard at you because of how silly you made yoruself look. I have cracked my ribs and my stomach hurts, and I probably have internal bleeding as well. Also the personal humiliation I suffered by you lumping me into your group... that made me look as stupid as you are, and I DEMAND compensation. If you do not pay my bill immediately I will sue you. Please pay in cash, or I will remove your fingers one by one with a needle nose pair of pliars and feed them to meal worms. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.

Regards,
Sean

(Disclaimer: for all humor challenged this is a JOKE. It is sad that people have to apologize for having a sense of humor. I do not hate all people named Lee. Humor is lost on many people, your milage may vary with the above joke. People with last names of Lee need not sue me. If I have offended you, good. People that are offended easily should seek proffesional help. Thank you.)
If somebody is easily offended he or she has serious uncertainty
about the values of himself (herself). It’s a defense mechanism.

Let’s be happy take some pictures or visit the PMA Show in Orlando
instead of this childish argument!

--
Apic
 
OMG this has to be one of the funniest post I have seen here. Good job!
This is to inform you that you have offended me greatly by claiming
that I demand an apology from Mr. Askey. I do not, and would like
my name removed from your list. Also, you have cost me lost time in
reading your pathatic sniveling posts, and I require compensation
as time equals money, and I will never be able to get that time
wasted reading your posts back. Those are MINUTES of my life gone
forever. DO you understand MR. LEE?? My life is SHORTER because of
YOU!

So therefore my lawyer will be contacting you and presenting a bill
for one million US dollars for your wasting of my time not to
mention my phsycological damage as a result of reading your posts,
I now HATE ALL people with the last name of LEE, since I am lumping
them all together as you lumped me into your group. It will take me
years of therapy to like people named Lee again. Also my medical
bills from laughing so hard at you because of how silly you made
yoruself look. I have cracked my ribs and my stomach hurts, and I
probably have internal bleeding as well. Also the personal
humiliation I suffered by you lumping me into your group... that
made me look as stupid as you are, and I DEMAND compensation. If
you do not pay my bill immediately I will sue you. Please pay in
cash, or I will remove your fingers one by one with a needle nose
pair of pliars and feed them to meal worms. May the fleas of a
thousand camels infest your armpits.

Regards,
Sean

(Disclaimer: for all humor challenged this is a JOKE. It is sad
that people have to apologize for having a sense of humor. I do not
hate all people named Lee. Humor is lost on many people, your
milage may vary with the above joke. People with last names of Lee
need not sue me. If I have offended you, good. People that are
offended easily should seek proffesional help. Thank you.)
If somebody is easily offended he or she has serious uncertainty
about the values of himself (herself). It’s a defense mechanism.

Let’s be happy take some pictures or visit the PMA Show in Orlando
instead of this childish argument!

--
Apic
--Valliesto
 
Phil, are you biased, selective in your subjects and assessements?
BTW, You don't work for Sharp, Sony, XXX or who ever pays you!
How dare you accuse me to work for sharp, Sony, Matshushita?
Your reply is not by chance and definately not witty!
I am truly saddened by your careless insensitivity!
Please retact your accusation forth with!

All DPR Forum members are waiting your reply ASAP!
Hey Jung,

Phil's site. Phil's forum. He's man of the house, you are a guest. We are all guests here. You don't pay him to be here as none of us do. If you took offence to that statement then you must be one uptight kind of soul.

Again...

Phil's site. Phil's forum. Get over it. Stay and pontificate or go elsewhere. Phil by no means owes you the time of day let alone a retraction of his funny remark.

Cheers,
Zack Arias
 
Hey Jung,
Phil's site. Phil's forum. He's man of the house, you are a
guest. We are all guests here. You don't pay him to be here as
none of us do.
Well, is that strictly true? Maybe when Phil was doing this as a hobby back in '98 that it was, but today dpreview is a busienss concern, and as such needs income. This comes from (a) advertisers, (b) PayPal donations, (c) merchandise sales, and (d) other sources I don't know about. If advertisers weren't convinced they would get at least some business from people who click through from dpreview, I doubt if they would pay to advertise, so in that respect some of the readers of this site are indirectly paying Phil's salary. If advertisers didn't play such an important role in the site, I doubt if Phil would go to the trouble of banning certain types of images and language in the forums to keep them happy.

Items (b) and (c) are clearly very directly a case of people "pay[ing] him to be here" so no further comment required there, and for (d) no further comment is possible.

The reason I point this out is because several people have implied that this site is something Phil does for a bit of fun, even praising him for working on a Sunday to bring us reports! I think I-R etc, would love it if Phil took the day off so they could scoop him with PMA announcements, but luckily Phil is a good enough businessman to realize this would be commercial suicide.

Which leads me to my point (and I do have one). I think one of the reasons threads like this get going (apart from the obvious one of a slight case of, ahem, oversensitivity) is that Phil is effectively CEO of this business. A CEO is expected to conduct himself in a way which is beyond reproach at all times (Enron's Mr Skilling notwithstanding). OTOH, Phil is also a crazy-ass digtial photography enthusiast with opinions and ego and all those good things. Occasionally this sets up a conflict. Certainly the "maybe you'd like to tell me how I can be in two places at once" comment came from Phil the camera guy and not Phil the CEO, and as such did surprise me slightly (though not shock or offend or anything else).

Buy hey, if it works for Phil, and it keeps this site the best photo site (by a quite margin) on the web, then I'm certainly not complaining. But please let's pay the Phil the compliment of acknowledging that he's actually running a successful business here, and not just doing this for the good of mankind.

Cheers,
Pete
-- http://www.peter-cockerell.net:8080/
 
Mr. Lee,

This is to inform you that you have offended me greatly by claiming
that I demand an apology from Mr. Askey. I do not, and would like
my name removed from your list. Also, you have cost me lost time in
reading your pathatic sniveling posts, and I require compensation
as time equals money, and I will never be able to get that time
wasted reading your posts back. Those are MINUTES of my life gone
forever. DO you understand MR. LEE?? My life is SHORTER because of
YOU!

So therefore my lawyer will be contacting you and presenting a bill
for one million US dollars for your wasting of my time not to
mention my phsycological damage as a result of reading your posts,
I now HATE ALL people with the last name of LEE, since I am lumping
them all together as you lumped me into your group. It will take me
years of therapy to like people named Lee again. Also my medical
bills from laughing so hard at you because of how silly you made
yoruself look. I have cracked my ribs and my stomach hurts, and I
probably have internal bleeding as well. Also the personal
humiliation I suffered by you lumping me into your group... that
made me look as stupid as you are, and I DEMAND compensation. If
you do not pay my bill immediately I will sue you. Please pay in
cash, or I will remove your fingers one by one with a needle nose
pair of pliars and feed them to meal worms. May the fleas of a
thousand camels infest your armpits.

Regards,
Sean

(Disclaimer: for all humor challenged this is a JOKE. It is sad
that people have to apologize for having a sense of humor. I do not
hate all people named Lee. Humor is lost on many people, your
milage may vary with the above joke. People with last names of Lee
need not sue me. If I have offended you, good. People that are
offended easily should seek proffesional help. Thank you.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Sean...."Excellent" , just "excellent"....I couldn't have said it better.

I wonder if anyone lives under the same roof with him ? He must be a joy to live with, Ron !

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If somebody is easily offended he or she has serious uncertainty
about the values of himself (herself). It’s a defense mechanism.

Let’s be happy take some pictures or visit the PMA Show in Orlando
instead of this childish argument!

--
Apic
 
Jung Lee loves every minute of this attention! Give it a rest
Jung Lee !
Most people here like this site. Obviously you don't ! You know
where the door is ! ( maybe he has something to do with
psychology, or just a problem with authority figures ).
With replies that have flowed, how can we stop personal accusations!
When the intent was to understand how hurtful it was for one member!
I have given it a rest. Please do so and not post personal for or
against!

Ron: You show me the door! Read my mind! Make following statements!
Do you expect me to give it a rest by not responding to you!
If it makes peace for you and other forum members,
and for the record why this thread has happened
I urge you to read the following two threads:
Hello Jung Lee........I read em.... and I read em.....and I read em.....

Needless to say, I don't agree with you at all....maybe your just too sensitive, serious, touchy, or maybe just too dense to see that you have created an argument with no foreseeable solution, except boycotting

your comments!......Give it a rest!......Lighten up a bit!.......You've voiced your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. Stop whining like a little 7 year old girl. I don't agree with you now, and most likely won't tomorrow. If you were highly insulted, it's time to get over it. If thats not the case, than you're just trying to be a pain in the butt. Either way your words cause my reaction, which you stated you do not like ! I say, phooey to you Mr. Lee..... Ron !
This proves Mr. Askey and his DPR Team are the best!
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1007&message=2113378

X3 Alert: Code Yellow: Jaundiced Humans On Foveon Images?
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=2250377

FYI: I like the site. None of us like any joke, wit, sense of
humour that may be misunderstood as personally directed at any
other forum member, even by the forum owner and not a moderator,
Mr. Phil Askey. Would you like any one of your own replies directed
back word by word to you?
That was the gist of this thread for all civil retractions.

I have already put this matter to rest yesterday:

Jung Lee's Reply and Request to Mr. Phil Askey
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=2259722

If you like, I will request Mr. Phil Askey to close this thread.
 
He simply made a little joke/comment, not an accusation, chill out.

fwiw, the Foveon's skin tones look fine on my monitor as well.

Willie
Phil, are you biased, selective in your subjects and assessements?
BTW, You don't work for Sharp, Sony, XXX or who ever pays you!
How dare you accuse me to work for sharp, Sony, Matshushita?
Your reply is not by chance and definately not witty!
I am truly saddened by your careless insensitivity!
Please retact your accusation forth with!

All DPR Forum members are waiting your reply ASAP!

Sincerely,
Jung Lee
Aww, and I thought it was fairly witty...

You don't work for Sharp, Sony or Matsushita by any chance?
--Willie G.Kulmbach. GermanyCanon G2- my eyeglasses have Carl Zeiss lenses - http://www.pbase.com/effzee
 
So therefore my lawyer will be contacting you and presenting a bill
for one million US dollars for your wasting of my time not to
mention my phsycological damage as a result of reading your posts,
I now HATE ALL people with the last name of LEE, since I am lumping
them all together as you lumped me into your group. It will take me
years of therapy to like people named Lee again.
I DEMAND that you retract/modify this statement or I will sue YOU.

H S Felknor, Esq
Sons of the Confederacy
Montgomery, Alabama
 
Sean,

All seriousness aside, I would like to suggest that you make your lawsuit a class action suit so that we all can gain from our unfortunate waste of time and mental abuse by the words of Mr. Lee. I'm also going to contact Rodney Dangerfield and let him know that Mr. Lee is stealing his "I can't get no respect material." I'm certain that Mr. Dangerfield's intellectual property has been infringed upon. Another lawsuit I'm afraid is in the offing. Good luck Mr. Lee the legal sharks have caught the scent of blood.

Rob

P.S. I'm smiling, and there is a twinkle in my eye, really!
This is to inform you that you have offended me greatly by claiming
that I demand an apology from Mr. Askey. I do not, and would like
my name removed from your list. Also, you have cost me lost time in
reading your pathatic sniveling posts, and I require compensation
as time equals money, and I will never be able to get that time
wasted reading your posts back. Those are MINUTES of my life gone
forever. DO you understand MR. LEE?? My life is SHORTER because of
YOU!

So therefore my lawyer will be contacting you and presenting a bill
for one million US dollars for your wasting of my time not to
mention my phsycological damage as a result of reading your posts,
I now HATE ALL people with the last name of LEE, since I am lumping
them all together as you lumped me into your group. It will take me
years of therapy to like people named Lee again. Also my medical
bills from laughing so hard at you because of how silly you made
yoruself look. I have cracked my ribs and my stomach hurts, and I
probably have internal bleeding as well. Also the personal
humiliation I suffered by you lumping me into your group... that
made me look as stupid as you are, and I DEMAND compensation. If
you do not pay my bill immediately I will sue you. Please pay in
cash, or I will remove your fingers one by one with a needle nose
pair of pliars and feed them to meal worms. May the fleas of a
thousand camels infest your armpits.

Regards,
Sean

(Disclaimer: for all humor challenged this is a JOKE. It is sad
that people have to apologize for having a sense of humor. I do not
hate all people named Lee. Humor is lost on many people, your
milage may vary with the above joke. People with last names of Lee
need not sue me. If I have offended you, good. People that are
offended easily should seek proffesional help. Thank you.)
If somebody is easily offended he or she has serious uncertainty
about the values of himself (herself). It’s a defense mechanism.

Let’s be happy take some pictures or visit the PMA Show in Orlando
instead of this childish argument!

--
Apic
 
Chill out, Jung. He didn't mean anything by it.

Homer
Phil, are you biased, selective in your subjects and assessements?
BTW, You don't work for Sharp, Sony, XXX or who ever pays you!
How dare you accuse me to work for sharp, Sony, Matshushita?
Your reply is not by chance and definately not witty!
I am truly saddened by your careless insensitivity!
Please retact your accusation forth with!

All DPR Forum members are waiting your reply ASAP!

Sincerely,
Jung Lee
Aww, and I thought it was fairly witty...

You don't work for Sharp, Sony or Matsushita by any chance?
You should watch some reruns of monty python and lighten up. Spam Spam Spam wonderful spam.
 
I'm glad Phil hasn't bothered to post any more replies to this stupid post. It seems to me that you take yourself just a little too seriously, Jung Lee. Talk about wrapping yourself in a cocoon of self-importance!
I can consider your reply as a joke or wit or sense of humour and
would consider this matter and thread closed, if you could confirm
that my or other similar DPR forum members' integrity, civility or
courteous nature of posting with reason were not under question as
perceived, however misunderstood!

Sincerely,
Jung Lee

PS. I still await with all patience for your responses to Foveon X3
yellow cast to skin color and white snow color connundrum noted on
X3 images!
Phil, are you biased, selective in your subjects and assessements?
BTW, You don't work for Sharp, Sony, XXX or who ever pays you!
How dare you accuse me to work for sharp, Sony, Matshushita?
Your reply is not by chance and definately not witty!
I am truly saddened by your careless insensitivity!
Please retact your accusation forth with!

All DPR Forum members are waiting your reply ASAP!

Sincerely,
Jung Lee
Aww, and I thought it was fairly witty...

You don't work for Sharp, Sony or Matsushita by any chance?
--Steve in Oz
 
No more posts from Mr.Lee. Seems like he was abducted by aliens, had a stroke, grew up or moved to another site.
 

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