Foveon - when hit the shops?

Ian Goldring

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I've been wanting to buy a nice digicam and the news on the new Foveon chip came out (read it in the Economist) - how long would I have to wait to get my hands on a consumer camera with this new technology? I was thiinking of getting a pentax optio 430 or a canon s40
Ian
 
I wouldn't expect a consumer camera before next year. The consumer chip is months from having samples available to manufacturers.
I've been wanting to buy a nice digicam and the news on the new
Foveon chip came out (read it in the Economist) - how long would I
have to wait to get my hands on a consumer camera with this new
technology? I was thiinking of getting a pentax optio 430 or a
canon s40
Ian
 
Yes and then go check all the threads on 42photo. They are known scam artists.

He was asking about consumer cameras anyway.

Peter
I've been wanting to buy a nice digicam and the news on the new
Foveon chip came out (read it in the Economist) - how long would I
have to wait to get my hands on a consumer camera with this new
technology? I was thiinking of getting a pentax optio 430 or a
canon s40
Ian
 
The sales guy at the PMA Sigma booth told me the price for the Foveon-enable Sigma SD9 would be about US$2,500-3,000. That is a price point I've never heard before, but I'm assuming he was using up-to-date price info instead of the comparitively out-of-date brochures and websites the rest of us use.

Also, he told me the Sigma SD9 would launch in late June. I don't know how accurate that date is, but that's what the sales guy told me.

By the way, the Foveon sample prints they had in the back lounge area were STUNNING. I can't wait...

-- Jacob Nguyen.--Eheu, fugaces labantur anni.Alas, how the fleeting years slip by.
 
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and surviving, so what gives?
The sales guy at the PMA Sigma booth told me the price for the
Foveon-enable Sigma SD9 would be about US$2,500-3,000. That is a
price point I've never heard before, but I'm assuming he was using
up-to-date price info instead of the comparitively out-of-date
brochures and websites the rest of us use.

Also, he told me the Sigma SD9 would launch in late June. I don't
know how accurate that date is, but that's what the sales guy told
me.

By the way, the Foveon sample prints they had in the back lounge
area were STUNNING. I can't wait...

-- Jacob Nguyen.
--
Eheu, fugaces labantur anni.
Alas, how the fleeting years slip by.
 
I can't understand how they survive either. They are not the only ones. I worry about the loss of resellar ratings, that would warn people off scammers like this. Its definitely buyer beware. Personally I won't buy a camera over the net unless the vendor has a proven track record. Preferably they are not so far I can't drive to them.

Peter
The sales guy at the PMA Sigma booth told me the price for the
Foveon-enable Sigma SD9 would be about US$2,500-3,000. That is a
price point I've never heard before, but I'm assuming he was using
up-to-date price info instead of the comparitively out-of-date
brochures and websites the rest of us use.

Also, he told me the Sigma SD9 would launch in late June. I don't
know how accurate that date is, but that's what the sales guy told
me.

By the way, the Foveon sample prints they had in the back lounge
area were STUNNING. I can't wait...

-- Jacob Nguyen.
--
Eheu, fugaces labantur anni.
Alas, how the fleeting years slip by.
 
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely
no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering
goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to
heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and
surviving, so what gives?
"You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people some of the time...and those are pretty good odds." PT Barnum.
 
Peter, I did a search on ALL Forums for 42Photo and nothing came up. Can you direct me to these sites? JOHN
He was asking about consumer cameras anyway.

Peter
I've been wanting to buy a nice digicam and the news on the new
Foveon chip came out (read it in the Economist) - how long would I
have to wait to get my hands on a consumer camera with this new
technology? I was thiinking of getting a pentax optio 430 or a
canon s40
Ian
 
I don't see your point--what exactly is there to gain by advertising something that does not exist? To take money and not deliver?? That means certain fireworks. What is the game? No body is gaining anything as I can see. No camera, no purchases, no gain for the seller. Why would anybody advertise on Ebay with no product? Surely they don't maintain a web site for fun only.
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely
no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering
goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to
heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and
surviving, so what gives?
"You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people
some of the time...and those are pretty good odds." PT Barnum.
 
Oh, and by someone I don't recall, "You can fool some of the people anytime and these are the ones you want to concentrate on!"
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely
no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering
goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to
heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and
surviving, so what gives?
"You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people
some of the time...and those are pretty good odds." PT Barnum.
 
Basically some companies figure if they can get you "in the door" or "on the phone" then they can sell you whatever it is that they have. They will make up some story like it was a mistake but they have this other camera that is better than that camera anyway. They figure anybody that does not know enough that the camera is not out yet is dumb enough to believe a lot of other things.

Karl
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely
no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering
goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to
heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and
surviving, so what gives?
"You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people
some of the time...and those are pretty good odds." PT Barnum.
--Karl
 
Well there is the Sigma case $299 the Sigma lens mount cover $48 the Sigma this $26 the Sigma that $65 etc etc ...the "package A that inludes all the aforementioned and a 256 MB CF card for only $999.......

"And oh by the way, Although we are temporarily out of stock, Have you heard about the Stalingrad 200? It's actually a better camer than the Sigma and since we don't have the Sigma right now, we would be glasd to...."

Beside they don't actually sell you the camera.
They get you to do a a "preorder" with a "guaranteed" price.
(BTW they charge your credit card when you place the "preorder".)
Later two things can happen.

The camera can become widely avail at $1499. Do you get your camera? Not yet. First they sell to everbody else that comes flooding in for camera at $1499 and for which the have some stock. They don't have to worry about you. They have your money and they have your "contract". Now ehen the camera drops down to $1299 the scenario is repeated. Again you don't get a camera unless somewher they end up wth more cameras than fresh orders. Then they ship you the camera.
They've had a free loan for a very long time.

And BTW, it's a Gray Market camera only missing a few things. Like maybe the lens.

Or.

You begin to suspect that you have been ripped off after several months of waiting.
They send you your money back.
But.
This only occurrs after many phone calls and "misinterpretations".

BTW, most NY shops (Not B&H_ do not hesitate to curse and call you names at this stage.) They will also withhold a "handling" fee.
They've had a free loan for a very long time.

One very sad thing has just occurred.
http://www.resellerratings.com apparently has folded.
Used to be able to go there and check out the sleaze balls.

Fireworks?
Not really.
In NY these things are handled by the Consumer Affairs agency.
They
1 - wait until they have a mountain of evidence. Somtimes two years or more.
2 Go to court with some young lawyer who just got in town from Fargo.

The Store lawyer gets continuances for a couple of years at which point ABC Photo becomes ABCPhoto.

No one in NY buys from these guys.
It's been going on for years and the internet has only expedited things.

Homer
Can anyone tell me why this NY outfit has to gain by this?? Surely
no one could survive very long taking money and not delivering
goods, which would be high level interstate no-no's, subject to
heavy sanctions. Yet they are there and apparently successful and
surviving, so what gives?
"You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people
some of the time...and those are pretty good odds." PT Barnum.
 

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