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New firmware GRD
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GTItraveler
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Can anyone translate this?
gsport george
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Babel Fish gives this:-
"Ricoh, announced that the up-to-date firmware of the same company make compact digital camera "GR DIGITAL" is released on the 30th. Version number and the like is not made clear.
In the latest edition, at the time of black photographing it reaches the point where contrast and sharp Ness can be set at 5 stages. Until recently only at the time of color photographing it was adjustment possible.
In addition, "sepia" becomes selection possible weakness, contrasty, in addition to the black and white. Adjustment of contrast and sharp Ness is possible even with sepia.
Furthermore, the "color bracket" is added to bracket function. Because of this, the color, the black and white, sepia or the color and the black picture are photographed automatically.
As for GR DIGITAL the compact digital camera which is sold on 2005 October 21st. The single focus lens and effective 813 ten thousand pixel 1/1.8 types CCD of 35mm format conversion 28mm and F2.4 are loaded.
Http: www.ricoh.co.jp/
Product information
Http: www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/gr/digital/
The Ricoh GR DIGITAL-RELATED article link collection
Http: dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2005/09/15/2305.html
(This journal: Makoto Ichiro Tanaka)
2007/03/22 14:55 "
"Ricoh, announced that the up-to-date firmware of the same company make compact digital camera "GR DIGITAL" is released on the 30th. Version number and the like is not made clear.
In the latest edition, at the time of black photographing it reaches the point where contrast and sharp Ness can be set at 5 stages. Until recently only at the time of color photographing it was adjustment possible.
In addition, "sepia" becomes selection possible weakness, contrasty, in addition to the black and white. Adjustment of contrast and sharp Ness is possible even with sepia.
Furthermore, the "color bracket" is added to bracket function. Because of this, the color, the black and white, sepia or the color and the black picture are photographed automatically.
As for GR DIGITAL the compact digital camera which is sold on 2005 October 21st. The single focus lens and effective 813 ten thousand pixel 1/1.8 types CCD of 35mm format conversion 28mm and F2.4 are loaded.
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Http: www.ricoh.co.jp/
Product information
Http: www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/gr/digital/
The Ricoh GR DIGITAL-RELATED article link collection
Http: dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2005/09/15/2305.html
(This journal: Makoto Ichiro Tanaka)
2007/03/22 14:55 "
Gerd Waloszek
Leading Member
At digitalkamera.de I found the folowing message (in German):
2007-03-22 Noch gut eine Woche, dann bekommt die Ricoh GR Digital einen erweiterten Schwarz-Weiß-Modus. Am 30. März (2007) will Ricoh nämlich für seine kleine Reise- und Reportagekamera eine neue Firmware veröffentlichen, die den S/W-Modus der GR Digital um mehrere Einstellungen erweitert. Nach dem Update der Kamera kann man dann bei der Aufnahme den Kontrast und die Schärfe für Monochrom- bzw. Graustufenbilder in fünf Stufen einstellen, neben gewöhnlichen S/W-Bildern auch getönte Monochrom-Aufnahmen (z. B. mit Sepia-Ton) schießen und in automatischen Farbreihen die verschiedenen Variationen (Farbbild, S/W-Bild, getöntes Monochrom-Bild) sogar mit nur einer Betätigung des Auslösers einzeln aufnehmen. Eine Versionsnummer für die neue Firmware gibt es noch nicht, aber sie wird das achte Firmware-Update seit der Markteinführung der GR Digital vor zwei Jahren (November 2005) sein. (Yvan Boeres)
Translation (as good as I can...):
2007-03-22: Please, wait about a week, and then the Ricoh GR Digital will get an expanded black-and-white mode. On March 30 2007, Ricoh will publish a new firmware for its small travel/reporting camera, that will extend the b&w mode of the GR Digital with several settings. After updaing the camera, you will be able to adjust contrast and sharpness of monochrome/b&w images in five steps,in addition to b&w images also take monochrome picture with different hues (e.g. sepia), and using automatic color series record different variations (color image, b&w image, sepia hue) with only one press of the release button. There is currently no version number available, but this will be the eighth firmware update since the market introduction of the GR Digital two years ago (Nov 2005) (Yvan Boeres)
Hopefully, my translation is not too bad...
Gerd
2007-03-22 Noch gut eine Woche, dann bekommt die Ricoh GR Digital einen erweiterten Schwarz-Weiß-Modus. Am 30. März (2007) will Ricoh nämlich für seine kleine Reise- und Reportagekamera eine neue Firmware veröffentlichen, die den S/W-Modus der GR Digital um mehrere Einstellungen erweitert. Nach dem Update der Kamera kann man dann bei der Aufnahme den Kontrast und die Schärfe für Monochrom- bzw. Graustufenbilder in fünf Stufen einstellen, neben gewöhnlichen S/W-Bildern auch getönte Monochrom-Aufnahmen (z. B. mit Sepia-Ton) schießen und in automatischen Farbreihen die verschiedenen Variationen (Farbbild, S/W-Bild, getöntes Monochrom-Bild) sogar mit nur einer Betätigung des Auslösers einzeln aufnehmen. Eine Versionsnummer für die neue Firmware gibt es noch nicht, aber sie wird das achte Firmware-Update seit der Markteinführung der GR Digital vor zwei Jahren (November 2005) sein. (Yvan Boeres)
Translation (as good as I can...):
2007-03-22: Please, wait about a week, and then the Ricoh GR Digital will get an expanded black-and-white mode. On March 30 2007, Ricoh will publish a new firmware for its small travel/reporting camera, that will extend the b&w mode of the GR Digital with several settings. After updaing the camera, you will be able to adjust contrast and sharpness of monochrome/b&w images in five steps,in addition to b&w images also take monochrome picture with different hues (e.g. sepia), and using automatic color series record different variations (color image, b&w image, sepia hue) with only one press of the release button. There is currently no version number available, but this will be the eighth firmware update since the market introduction of the GR Digital two years ago (Nov 2005) (Yvan Boeres)
Hopefully, my translation is not too bad...
Gerd
Robert_Mallon
Well-known member
nice!
andri irawan billitone
Active member
wonderful updates from Ricoh.
Cant wait.
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MICHAEL WAGLER
Member
Though I come to this forum several times a week its been ages since I have replied to anything. I am just sorta shocked that this post went to the back of the line so fast. I think this is HUGE news and I'm super psyched to get this.
I thought we had seen the last of the firmware but now I wou;n't even be suprised if another one comes down the road again months from now. Isn't this just unheard of? I mean we are getting pro camera service on a digital point and shoot. Hands down to Ricoh. I talk bad about this camera sometimes, and it legitimately deserves some upgrades, but thats the thing, its getting them, and it just keeps getting better. I haven't even READ what the new firmware is. I understand it has something to do with B&W and Bracketing, but I just think its incredible Ricoh's committment to this camera. Did any P&S get this kind of commitment. Its unprecedented and i gotta give it to them.
Keep customers happy, give them frimware.
Im thrilled.
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I thought we had seen the last of the firmware but now I wou;n't even be suprised if another one comes down the road again months from now. Isn't this just unheard of? I mean we are getting pro camera service on a digital point and shoot. Hands down to Ricoh. I talk bad about this camera sometimes, and it legitimately deserves some upgrades, but thats the thing, its getting them, and it just keeps getting better. I haven't even READ what the new firmware is. I understand it has something to do with B&W and Bracketing, but I just think its incredible Ricoh's committment to this camera. Did any P&S get this kind of commitment. Its unprecedented and i gotta give it to them.
Keep customers happy, give them frimware.
Im thrilled.
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'Time Flies like an Arrow, Fruit Flies like a Banana'
beebleb
Active member
Colour bracketing in particular seems particularly brilliant IF I can make the display show B&W and capture colour in the end; that's something I've always wanted, so that I can basically see the image in B&W but have a colour image captured for editing. This is one of the reasons I wanted decent RAW speed.
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Robert_Mallon
Well-known member
'm looking forward to the update. However it's ashame they still haven't address the SDHC issue. Maybe next time?
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I like ricoh too, but i think that the image of a company could also take disadvantages by releasing so many firmwares: it means that this product was not 100% ready to hit a market. the opposide point is that maybe ricoh want keep their product up-to-date. IMHO
tcc7
New member
Nah, don't be so pessimistic 
The last upgrade addressed an issue many customers complained about, the slow RAW write speed. It is still very slow, but the last firmware made an improvement. It was nice to see that Ricoh cares about it, and who knows, the last word regarding RAW write speed might not have been spoken yet.
And now we get a pure feature enhancement, something that is really, really rare in other camera manufacturers. Ricoh is keeping this camera attractive and up-to-date, showing ongoing confidence in the GRD.
The last upgrade addressed an issue many customers complained about, the slow RAW write speed. It is still very slow, but the last firmware made an improvement. It was nice to see that Ricoh cares about it, and who knows, the last word regarding RAW write speed might not have been spoken yet.
And now we get a pure feature enhancement, something that is really, really rare in other camera manufacturers. Ricoh is keeping this camera attractive and up-to-date, showing ongoing confidence in the GRD.
- Tomas
Updating a product after shipment is NOT a sign that the product wasn't good enough. It is a sign that a product can always be improved.
Think of how crappy cars would be if there were never any recalls or technical service bulletins. Or think about what Windows would be like without any security updates?
Do you own a cell phone? They update themselves all the time. So do cable boxes and countless other consumer devices.
NASA has been sending updates to planetary probes for decades- some of which are operating well beyond what they were ever intending to do, and providing huge amounts of useful data in return.
After-the-fact updates are NOT a sign of a poor product- they're a sign of a product with a manufacturer that stands behind it.
Think of how crappy cars would be if there were never any recalls or technical service bulletins. Or think about what Windows would be like without any security updates?
Do you own a cell phone? They update themselves all the time. So do cable boxes and countless other consumer devices.
NASA has been sending updates to planetary probes for decades- some of which are operating well beyond what they were ever intending to do, and providing huge amounts of useful data in return.
After-the-fact updates are NOT a sign of a poor product- they're a sign of a product with a manufacturer that stands behind it.
- David
DCWakeman
Member
I read that the last update allowed one to capture a small jpeg, this leaving more room in the buffer. I didn't read that the RAW write speed had been improved but thought that it possibly might have. This solution was suggested as the means to improve RAW write speed a long time ago by a reviewer on another forum, I now forget which. In any case, what was the real world improvement in speed? It was originally up around 12 seconds, wasn't it? If it now is around 7 seconds or less, I think I will spring for the the camera.Nah, don't be so pessimistic
The last upgrade addressed an issue many customers complained
about, the slow RAW write speed. It is still very slow, but the
last firmware made an improvement. It was nice to see that Ricoh
cares about it, and who knows, the last word regarding RAW write
speed might not have been spoken yet.
Thanks for any clarification,
Dave Wakeman
I couldn't agree more.
The new iPhone has so much hype around it but in that, what has now become cliche, keynote speech, Steve Jobs said something that resonated with me.
He said, and I'm paraphrasing "you've got these smart-phones with these fixed buttons and what happens if you think of a great idea six months down the road, you just can't add another button."
The GRD is a perfect example of just this situation. Now of course they can't add buttons without recalling cameras (Remember the rumor about the bigger sensors?...wouldn't that have been great, albeit totally impractical), but Ricoh can come up with new ideas.
This camera is hella noisy. Its drives me crazy at times, in color, but it works in black and white. Which is what I believe the GRD has become for most, a great black and white street cam,with that velvety or crunchy if you like, GRD grain, and I doubt Ricoh forsaw that specific eveloution, or at least that its consumers would be so jazzed about that.
2 years after release, the company addresses that and beefs up its B&W capabilities. Not only is this firmware a nice bonus, it is so specifically addressing, I would guess, what are consumers wishes.
We all want faster raw right times...Somehow realloting internal buffer space to do that may just not be physically possible right now but if there is a will, there is a way. And if Ricoh continues this commitment, I wouldn't be suprised if we get it. Be careful what you wish for.
I was shooting last night and I walked into a brightly lit pharmacy and I looked down at my camera. Its beat. The grip is all warn where my fingers hold it. The case is all hobbled from taking it in and out. I've abused this camera, not necessarily cuz I'm hard on it, but rather that its a work horse for me. I thought, "Damn...I'm happy this thing came along."
The GRD has totally changed the way I shoot and Ricoh's commitment to the camera is really, cheesily, an inspiration to my commitment to photography.
Thank you Ricoh. More Firmware please...
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'Time Flies like an Arrow, Fruit Flies like a Banana'
The new iPhone has so much hype around it but in that, what has now become cliche, keynote speech, Steve Jobs said something that resonated with me.
He said, and I'm paraphrasing "you've got these smart-phones with these fixed buttons and what happens if you think of a great idea six months down the road, you just can't add another button."
The GRD is a perfect example of just this situation. Now of course they can't add buttons without recalling cameras (Remember the rumor about the bigger sensors?...wouldn't that have been great, albeit totally impractical), but Ricoh can come up with new ideas.
This camera is hella noisy. Its drives me crazy at times, in color, but it works in black and white. Which is what I believe the GRD has become for most, a great black and white street cam,with that velvety or crunchy if you like, GRD grain, and I doubt Ricoh forsaw that specific eveloution, or at least that its consumers would be so jazzed about that.
2 years after release, the company addresses that and beefs up its B&W capabilities. Not only is this firmware a nice bonus, it is so specifically addressing, I would guess, what are consumers wishes.
We all want faster raw right times...Somehow realloting internal buffer space to do that may just not be physically possible right now but if there is a will, there is a way. And if Ricoh continues this commitment, I wouldn't be suprised if we get it. Be careful what you wish for.
I was shooting last night and I walked into a brightly lit pharmacy and I looked down at my camera. Its beat. The grip is all warn where my fingers hold it. The case is all hobbled from taking it in and out. I've abused this camera, not necessarily cuz I'm hard on it, but rather that its a work horse for me. I thought, "Damn...I'm happy this thing came along."
The GRD has totally changed the way I shoot and Ricoh's commitment to the camera is really, cheesily, an inspiration to my commitment to photography.
Thank you Ricoh. More Firmware please...
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'Time Flies like an Arrow, Fruit Flies like a Banana'
hi again.
i have to agree, that the continuous firmware support is a good think as long it is keeping a product up-to-date (new features..), but if a product does not work properly after release (like R3/R5.. R7?? focusing bug) and a firmware have to be brought out, so this shows - IMHO- that the quality control of a company isnt perfect yet. and if i buy a brand new car, i dont want to be a mouse to find out the bugs, in hope not to die for extreme. but you are right again: its better to solve a bug with a firmware than never have a possibility to do this.
i have to agree, that the continuous firmware support is a good think as long it is keeping a product up-to-date (new features..), but if a product does not work properly after release (like R3/R5.. R7?? focusing bug) and a firmware have to be brought out, so this shows - IMHO- that the quality control of a company isnt perfect yet. and if i buy a brand new car, i dont want to be a mouse to find out the bugs, in hope not to die for extreme. but you are right again: its better to solve a bug with a firmware than never have a possibility to do this.
tcc7
New member
Hi Dave,
about having improved RAW write speed from 12s to 8s. Unfortunately I
cannot find any reference anymore to that. While the GRD Wikipedia page
still says that "[...] its slow processing rate (up to 12 (8s with new
Firmware!) seconds between RAW shots),[...]", the grd firmware page on
Ricoh's website has no mention of this.
Does someone else remembers that announcement? Did they take that
part down, or am I going limbo?
as far as I recollect the firmware upgrade 2.21 included an announcment
about having improved RAW write speed from 12s to 8s. Unfortunately I
cannot find any reference anymore to that. While the GRD Wikipedia page
still says that "[...] its slow processing rate (up to 12 (8s with new
Firmware!) seconds between RAW shots),[...]", the grd firmware page on
Ricoh's website has no mention of this.
Does someone else remembers that announcement? Did they take that
part down, or am I going limbo?
- Tomas
The model ranges are sold at very different price points. Within the high initial purchase price of the GRD is a gaurantee of a certain amount of future support that arguably would exceed the amount allowed for the R series given its almost throw away price point. So I would expect fixes for actual proven faults for the R series, but not an ongoing series of continuous upgrades like has been provided for the GRD.
Brian
VladimirV
Veteran Member
I tested this with a relatively slow SD card and the write speed is from 13s to 9s when selecting the lowest jpg for this. With a better card it should be faster but I did not have it around at that time.
The new firmware sounds indeed very good and it is great to see that Ricoh stays commited to this camera.
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