Lester Helmus
Forum Enthusiast
I second this motion (as I have stated on a previous post of mine).--LesterC2100, E100, D460Z http://www.corbin39.com/ (if you like sailboats or boating)'Thank God I was born in the U.S.of A.'
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Lester Helmus
Forum Enthusiast
1. You violated the rules but made me laugh. Thank you.
2. Phil, a little levity now and then makes this forum much more appealing.--LesterC2100, E100, D460Z http://www.corbin39.com/ (if you like sailboats or boating)'Thank God I was born in the U.S.of A.'
Juzu
Active member
Not no more taxes but..
...does those OT "chats" really make this place bad place to be? i dont think that OT's will replace normal threads at all. If someone need to ask tomething, i think he/she will ask it no matter is there OT or not.
It makes this place much better, that why i come here all days to check some nice pictures and so on.. not to read does the 128MB really work in some models or not..
I've spoken, UGH!
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Juzu---O l y 2 1 0 0 U Z http://www.pbase.com/juzu
...does those OT "chats" really make this place bad place to be? i dont think that OT's will replace normal threads at all. If someone need to ask tomething, i think he/she will ask it no matter is there OT or not.
It makes this place much better, that why i come here all days to check some nice pictures and so on.. not to read does the 128MB really work in some models or not..
I've spoken, UGH!
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Juzu---O l y 2 1 0 0 U Z http://www.pbase.com/juzu
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Chip Lenkiewicz
Guest
You raise a good point as to what is OT. We are a family here on the forums. As such the topics will go every where where our minds go. And just as in every family there are those that are troublesome; we have them too. And just as in a family when a member gets too abusive; they get asked to to leave. Hopefully these family members will be able to come back.
Can a person get on the ban list or warning list at the whim or complaint from another who was just as involved in an OT thread ?
How does one know whether he/she is on the list? Does Phil send them an E mail attesting to it? JD
How does one know whether he/she is on the list? Does Phil send them an E mail attesting to it? JD
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Terry Thorn
Guest
Good point.
Don Sider
Well-known member
denisg
Senior Member
Sad because it's a telling off and none of us enjoy that. Angry because it really isn't necessary and to a degree, wrong.
You cannot have a forum/newsgroup that is just nice and polite. Life just isn't like that at all.
Now, I know I don't post much but I really do enjoy this forum, warts 'an all as they say. But I do guess that some of the complainers are the cause in the first place.
Critisism should be constructive and taken as so. Being nice with it sometimes makes the recipient miss the point.
As an amature photographer for thirty years I do feel annoyed and disheartened somewhat when I see a poor photo given the 'nice shot' comments. But even worse is when the critic obviously knows absolutely nothing about the subject. In my book that is probably the worst offence and in a newsgroup would get severely flamed and rightly so.
This thread alone has at least one person regularly guilty of that offence and has been flamed/corrected many times for it. Regretably, learned nothing.
Funny how the same person seems to be part of the reason that we ALL get bollicked for nothing.
This is a great forum, there is, in my HO nothing wrong here.
Denis
Maxven
Senior Member
Hi Terry and JD.
I don't know quite how it works but according to the SLR forum theres a autobot that searches for offensive sentences, like "get th f out". According to rumours at the big boy forum both the offender and the one being replied to gets the boot. Check out the discussions about Dr. Gonzo and a few followup threads about banning. Some people including Dr. G got banned recently.
Maxven
I don't know quite how it works but according to the SLR forum theres a autobot that searches for offensive sentences, like "get th f out". According to rumours at the big boy forum both the offender and the one being replied to gets the boot. Check out the discussions about Dr. Gonzo and a few followup threads about banning. Some people including Dr. G got banned recently.
Maxven
Don Sider
Well-known member
Is this the "Olympus Talk Forum" or the "Samples and Galleries Forum",
I'm confused.
Please click on the link at the bottom to read "PHIL'S" forum's RULES"
Sorry, I just don't think that I should have to go 3 to 5 pages deep into this forum to find actual post's regarding "Olympus" camera issues because most folk's seem to feel the need to "SHARE" their "CUTE" little images with those who are actually trying to "LEARN" photography and how to get the best out of their camera's.
Open Note to Phil Askey:
You have a "GREAT" website here, but this particular forum (Olympus Forum "Talk") is not what it once was. It doesn't seem to be an open "Talk" forum about Olympus camera's and postings don't seem to follow the dpreview "posting rules", but if I'm stepping on any toes here please forgive me.
Keep up the "GREAT" work here, and maybe us "Olympus" owner's can get our help and information through you and your "reviews" of various Olympus camera's and maybe some other website's where "camera" issue's are more important.
Thank-you Phil
"I" appreciate your site
Dvg
I'm confused.
Please click on the link at the bottom to read "PHIL'S" forum's RULES"
Sorry, I just don't think that I should have to go 3 to 5 pages deep into this forum to find actual post's regarding "Olympus" camera issues because most folk's seem to feel the need to "SHARE" their "CUTE" little images with those who are actually trying to "LEARN" photography and how to get the best out of their camera's.
Open Note to Phil Askey:
You have a "GREAT" website here, but this particular forum (Olympus Forum "Talk") is not what it once was. It doesn't seem to be an open "Talk" forum about Olympus camera's and postings don't seem to follow the dpreview "posting rules", but if I'm stepping on any toes here please forgive me.
Keep up the "GREAT" work here, and maybe us "Olympus" owner's can get our help and information through you and your "reviews" of various Olympus camera's and maybe some other website's where "camera" issue's are more important.
Thank-you Phil
"I" appreciate your site
Dvg
RichO
Veteran Member
DVG_85,
How does one talk about Olympus cameras and learn photography without sharing examples? I have a masters degree in Adult/Continuing Ed. and I have taught many adult level classes. I can tell you right now that adults learn more from "doing" and "sharing" than any other means.
Recently, this forum went into an uproar, because a few people were upset that many excited Olympus owners were sharing their thrill of owning an Olympus 2100 UZ.
I stopped mentioning that I own an Olympus 2100 UZ and started concentrating on techniques of photography that would apply to any camera.
Now you want me to go back to specifying my camera? I am confused!!
Could we perhaps all agree on a prefix that would allow those who want to search and pull out the types of messages they need? Like:
TECH: (for technique)
SHARE: (for sharing examples made with Olympus cameras)
ISSUE: (problems with Olympus cameras)
FAQ: (questions in general about Olympus cameras)
OLY2100: (messages specific to Olympus 2100 UZ cameras only)
OLY4040
OLY700:
TIP: (General tips on improving the use of Olympus Cameras)
FUN: (examples of how Olympus cameras have brought fun into one's life.)
I am ready to learn from you if you will give me some "examples" to follow.
http://www.pbase.com/richo/ 'Life is a dance, Love is the music.'
How does one talk about Olympus cameras and learn photography without sharing examples? I have a masters degree in Adult/Continuing Ed. and I have taught many adult level classes. I can tell you right now that adults learn more from "doing" and "sharing" than any other means.
Recently, this forum went into an uproar, because a few people were upset that many excited Olympus owners were sharing their thrill of owning an Olympus 2100 UZ.
I stopped mentioning that I own an Olympus 2100 UZ and started concentrating on techniques of photography that would apply to any camera.
Now you want me to go back to specifying my camera? I am confused!!
Could we perhaps all agree on a prefix that would allow those who want to search and pull out the types of messages they need? Like:
TECH: (for technique)
SHARE: (for sharing examples made with Olympus cameras)
ISSUE: (problems with Olympus cameras)
FAQ: (questions in general about Olympus cameras)
OLY2100: (messages specific to Olympus 2100 UZ cameras only)
OLY4040
OLY700:
TIP: (General tips on improving the use of Olympus Cameras)
FUN: (examples of how Olympus cameras have brought fun into one's life.)
I am ready to learn from you if you will give me some "examples" to follow.
--RichO
http://www.pbase.com/richo/ 'Life is a dance, Love is the music.'Duane Goodman
Leading Member
skip the ones you don't like. It isn't hard to do...
--Duane
Lori Foote
Senior Member
RichO,
I couldn't agree with you more. How can I become a good photographer unless I SEE what good is? Photography is a visual means of communication, is it not? I must admit I learned more looking at the fine photos that are posted than I do from tech posts (I'm not diminishing their value at all, of course). For example.......IR photography. You can which talk all you want about which filter is best for infrared, what the filter does to light, etc. But unless I had see the finished product, chances are, my Hoya R72 would still be sitting on the shelf at the camera shop. Pressing the shutter of a camera does not end the process.........
And what have I learned from the Sample and Galleries Forum? The Canon D30, which I will never be able to afford, takes good pictures. There you have it.
In my opinion, this is what makes digital so incredible. Instead of going out there and having a plan......"I'm gonna shoot this with a half-zoom, this at 1/300, this one at ISO 200", you can just go out and DO IT. We'll all be here to discuss the results later.
Lori
I couldn't agree with you more. How can I become a good photographer unless I SEE what good is? Photography is a visual means of communication, is it not? I must admit I learned more looking at the fine photos that are posted than I do from tech posts (I'm not diminishing their value at all, of course). For example.......IR photography. You can which talk all you want about which filter is best for infrared, what the filter does to light, etc. But unless I had see the finished product, chances are, my Hoya R72 would still be sitting on the shelf at the camera shop. Pressing the shutter of a camera does not end the process.........
And what have I learned from the Sample and Galleries Forum? The Canon D30, which I will never be able to afford, takes good pictures. There you have it.
In my opinion, this is what makes digital so incredible. Instead of going out there and having a plan......"I'm gonna shoot this with a half-zoom, this at 1/300, this one at ISO 200", you can just go out and DO IT. We'll all be here to discuss the results later.
Lori
How does one talk about Olympus cameras and learn photography
without sharing examples? I have a masters degree in
Adult/Continuing Ed. and I have taught many adult level classes. I
can tell you right now that adults learn more from "doing" and
"sharing" than any other means.
Recently, this forum went into an uproar, because a few people were
upset that many excited Olympus owners were sharing their thrill of
owning an Olympus 2100 UZ.
I stopped mentioning that I own an Olympus 2100 UZ and started
concentrating on techniques of photography that would apply to any
camera.
Now you want me to go back to specifying my camera? I am confused!!
Could we perhaps all agree on a prefix that would allow those who
want to search and pull out the types of messages they need? Like:
TECH: (for technique)
SHARE: (for sharing examples made with Olympus cameras)
ISSUE: (problems with Olympus cameras)
FAQ: (questions in general about Olympus cameras)
OLY2100: (messages specific to Olympus 2100 UZ cameras only)
OLY4040
OLY700:
TIP: (General tips on improving the use of Olympus Cameras)
FUN: (examples of how Olympus cameras have brought fun into one's
life.)
I am ready to learn from you if you will give me some "examples" to
follow.
--
RichO
http://www.pbase.com/richo/
'Life is a dance, Love is the music.'
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Chip Lenkiewicz
Guest
While the rules do state that these posts you speak of go in to the Galleries Forum; I think that they add to the flavor of the community that exsists here in the Olympus SLR Forum. That is very different from most of the other forums here. I perosnally do not look at all of the gallery postings; but do when I would like a deversion from the tech chatter. Also as vocal as members are here, if it were a problem there would have been mega threads on the topic.
Kim R
Forum Pro
I have used some other forums to get help. Although I did recieve some there - it was very limited.
I could post the same thing here on this forum (and it is cam and photo related) and I would get 10x the input
THIS OLY FORUM IS THE BEST! kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FORUM FOLKS!!
I could post the same thing here on this forum (and it is cam and photo related) and I would get 10x the input
THIS OLY FORUM IS THE BEST! kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FORUM FOLKS!!
--'Will it ever be noticed by a man galloping by on a white horse?'Kim
That's weird, the message posted without me hitting the post button.
Anyway. I am in agreement with you in part that some pictures don't belong here. And I may be somewhat guilty of it as well.
I say there is a place for pictures that give a good example of the uninque capabilities of a camera. For instance comparison pictures between one model and another.
Pictures that may indicate a problem with the camera are quite pertinant.
Samples from a new model are pertinant.
Pictures that may need input from users of the same camera.
Pictures that don't really belong are the "my cute dog", "please critique my art", "my baby", etc.
But if Phil didn't want pictures posted, he would modify the sight to prevent it.
Anyway. I am in agreement with you in part that some pictures don't belong here. And I may be somewhat guilty of it as well.
I say there is a place for pictures that give a good example of the uninque capabilities of a camera. For instance comparison pictures between one model and another.
Pictures that may indicate a problem with the camera are quite pertinant.
Samples from a new model are pertinant.
Pictures that may need input from users of the same camera.
Pictures that don't really belong are the "my cute dog", "please critique my art", "my baby", etc.
But if Phil didn't want pictures posted, he would modify the sight to prevent it.
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Terry Thorn
Guest
The way I look at it, this is Phil's baby. If he doesn't like the way it's being treated, he'll say so. If you don't like the way things are here, you have options other than trying to "police" the forum. You can ignore the threads you have no interest in or you can complain to Phil... directly. This forum is pretty good from what I've seen and I have no complaints. I have a dial-up connection and a slow one at that and having pictures imbedded in the message doesn't bother me. I like looking at them and learning from them or laughing at them.
Mofongo
Forum Pro
This is the Olympus Talk forum...where we discuss Olympus cameras and learn by sharing photos from our Olympus cameras as well as a dicussing technical issues...
If all the different camera forums posted their photos only on the samples and galleries forum it would be a mess over there...all the different forums post photos...nothing new here...
We post here can so we learn about Olympus cameras through shooting and sharing as well as discussing tech stuff...
What issues are you looking to find? Why not just do a search? Most of the "issues" have been discussed over and over again and can easily be found through a search...
This forum would be so boring if people only discussed "issues"...
How better to learn photo than to post images and discuss ways to impove? You learn also by shooting and sharing, not just talking about fstops and DOF and menus ets...
If all we want is tech talk, we could just read a manual...
Bob
-- http://www.pbase.com/mofongo/galleriesFollow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill.
DomDP
Senior Member
This is Phil's place, why have feature's, if you don't expect people to use them. If you need control, be a policeman, run for office, or become a grammer school teacher.
Stop trying to make things your way and enjoy the forum it is a great place.
--DomDP-NJC-2100UZPbase Supporter http://www.pbase.com/domdp 'A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men.' - Roald Dahl -
Stop trying to make things your way and enjoy the forum it is a great place.
--DomDP-NJC-2100UZPbase Supporter http://www.pbase.com/domdp 'A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men.' - Roald Dahl -
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