The "Authority" of the G7?

His all current cameras have RAW option allowing to save almost any taken image.
I agree that his approach is very innovative beating the old paradigm.
Leo
 
I use the 5050 every day in my office. I don't often check, but isn't it a 1.8? With that, who need IS? If they could take that lens, add IS, keep the body, do around 28-70mm, put in some internal filters...who needs anything else? Of course a larger sensor would be nice, but the Sigma DP1 people are arguing that it can't be done within the above specs, esp with faster lens as is.
 
haha I actually didn't realize that. Ha. Well maybe he's a 10 year old withpremature balding and graying. Like umm... an asian version of Robin Williams in "Jack".

anyway since I already have a Canon s400 .... the small point & shoot... I wanted a camera that gives more control but also has a different "air" to it, but still not be holding somethin that weighs more than 1 pound and cannot possibly fit inside a pocket. (Although the G7 barely can make it into some pockets).

I could walk around with the "cardboard edition," it's a lot lighter than the real G7 but I think I want somethin that actually takes photos. Instead of this fakery. ha..



(Note below, the classic crappy Myspace-type bathroom shot)

 
The Canon A710 IS is very simmilar to G7 but less $$$ and lighter and smaller.

It is almost the same except a smaller sensor. That means use A710 IS just one ISO down. It is good up to and ingluding ISO 200 while G7 - ISO 400. It is not that big deal. Both cameras with IS, same F2.8 - F4.8 and 35-210mm zoom. Also both do not have RAW and flip LCD. I think it is an easy choice. It is hard to understand Canon marketing philosophy.
Leo
 
What a wonderful post. Here's the thing -- I have always gotten better candid shots with point and shoots than with my dSLR -- once people see that big baby come out, they turn the other way, or the stop doing what they were just doing.

All of my best dSLR candid shots are taken with zoom lenses when the folks (or animals) don't see you there with a camera.

The G7 lets you get right up to scenes and snap away, and people will kind of ignore you, as if you are a tourist.

I recently left my dSLR at home at took only my G7 to Paris and to Walt Disney World. The shots I got were amazing, specifically because they were candid and people didn't feel the "authority" angle...

Speaking of which, by the way...you can also get away with using your G7 is places like in front of the London Eye, where dSLR's are now "forbidden" without a photo permit...talk about anti-authority...
 
RonAnnArbor wrote:
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Speaking of which, by the way...you can also get away with using
your G7 is places like in front of the London Eye, where dSLR's are
now "forbidden" without a photo permit...talk about
anti-authority...
Is it true? Is there a passed law (official) that prohibits use of DSLR?
Leo
 
Yes. The entire area from the Aquarium to south of the London Eye belongs to the London Eye Ltd. They have forbidden the use of professional (read "SLR") cameras anywhere on that property.

In order to take photos, you must get written permission in advance from them. If not, their security is authorized to warn you and if caught a second time confiscate your camera. Usually, you just play dumb and they will refer you to the London Eye Office where you fill out the paperwork (basically you sign that you will not sell your photos nor use them for any commercial purposes, as all images taken on their property belong to them)...Ironically -- you can walk a block a way and get the same shots with a moderate zoom and you will have no problems.

Here is a link to the Offical London Eye Photography Permit area:

http://www.londoneye.com/AboutEye_pr.aspx?sec=ate&productid=315
 
What? Did you sneak in your P/S, or are they allowed? Is this to be common at all tourist sites? Is the DSLR somehow bigger and more "dangerous", or are they afraid you could hide something in it? Even the Oly 410?
 
Very interesting about London banning SLRs like that. Also I remember taking sneaky photos of the Sistine Chapel's ceiling with my Powershot S400 and no flash of course. (If you walk all the way to the divider towards the back of the chapel, there is an angled ledge that'll let you put the camera on its back and take decent photos without any of the guards suspecting).

That's one I accidently had my head in, but I liked it anyway cuz it showed I was actually there.



Anyway, if I had an SLR there's much less chance I'd be able to get that shot without getting in trouble. It's just too noticeable. With the G7, itd also be a bit more noticeable, but hopefully not.
 
Anyway, if I had an SLR there's much less chance I'd be able to get
that shot without getting in trouble. It's just too noticeable.
With the G7, itd also be a bit more noticeable, but hopefully not.
Nice Sistine Chapel shot.

The beauty of the little compacts is the stealth factor. I find that the G7's shutter and AF noise is a touch more noticeable than that of, say, the S45, S70, and the Fuji F30. It's still pretty quiet, but if you want maximum stealth, it would be nice if it was a bit more quiet!

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Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
 
Can you turn off the AF noise and shutter on the G7? On my S400 I have it set to totally silent. Usually the settings are in the My Camera area on the menu
 
Can you turn off the AF noise and shutter on the G7? On my S400 I
have it set to totally silent. Usually the settings are in the My
Camera area on the menu
Yes, you can also do this with the G7. And you can trun down the operation volume as well. I use shutter sound effect #1, and it's really very discreet. I doubt anyone would hear it even from 5 or 6 ft. away. The start up sound, however, is another story. Unless the room is moderately noisey, I'd turn that off for stealth mode (actually, I'd probably mute all sounds if I wanted stealth).

Abana
 
Can you turn off the AF noise and shutter on the G7?
Yes, you can. The AF noise is then non-existent, and the shutter makes a very quiet click.

Glen
 
This is a fascinating discussion! What I would offer is that, like many of you, I think it depends, largely on your company and the eventual audience of your work.

At the extremes, an audience of pure lay consumers wouldn't know the difference between a G7 and any other black P&S. They may know enough to suggest that because you have a 10MP camera that your camera must be better than, say, a professional DSLR with 7MP. But probably not.

On the other extreme, are people like us on these forums. Or worse, the audience is the hypothetical uber-professional photographer who eats photographers like us for breakfast (movie reference, anyone, anyone?).

Does it really matter what these people think. Reaction = no. Reality = yes. Yes for the reasons that others have cited -- you may get "further" with a less or more conspicuous camera depending on your situation. A monster zoom lens on the subway is likely to get you some suspicious stares and a less willing audience, not to mention the attention of would-be thieves. A P&S at a professional shoot is going to be met with unspoken presumptions that you are a mickey mouse snapshootin' wannabe who always puts the horizon in the dead center of a image. Hence, you may not be accorded the respect that you deserve because you really are a good photographer, and the only reason you didn't bring your SLR is because you've loaned it to National Geographic because they want nothing more than to hold your camera for a day.

The reality is neither and what really matters is what comes out of your work, in terms of images and personal reward. The camera is only part of the authority that you project -- professionalism (which is what determines one's authority) is about the whole package.

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Mike M
 
  • At my best friend's wedding, for which I was the best man, I was wandering about, taking lots of photos with my Canon S70. I later found that someone thought I was the photographer, and I only had my mid-compact S70!
  • A couple of years ago, I was taking some photos of a demonstration/procession in the City with my S70. A nearby woman asked why I was taking photos, was I a professional?
  • On a photo excursion with my G7, I started talking to someone by a railway line in the country. I said that I was out doing some photography - he looked at the G7 and asked if I was a professional.
  • And a few weeks ago, I was in the City, doing some photography and talking to some kids who were getting ready to do a Chinese Lion Dance at a local restaurant. One guy asked me if I was a pro.
Everyone who sees me in photo mode says that I seem very passionate about photography. Would they have asked me if I was a pro if I'd had a little silver camera? Was it enough that the camera was black? Or did my demeanour and intensity lead them to think I was a pro?
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Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
 
Come to Sydney and go to any of our beaches and take photos and see if anyone asks you if you are a pro. They will think you are a perve or something like that. I get stares all the time when I am taking photos of our beaches. If there are any kids or topless women around you have to watch yourself.

From your experiences and the cameras you mention I would guess it is your demeanor and manner that make people think you are a pro.
 

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