D40x vs. 1D Mark III - official samples

Even if the d40x image quality was superior to the canon, it would not matter. This is a lens comparison. An expensive prime vs. consumer zoom comparison to be exact. I could do the same comparison with my D2X and 105mm macro vs. my d200 and 28-105mm.

The only thing it really shows to me is that primes are sharper than zooms.

Even if the d40x image quality was superior to the canon, it would not matter. This is a lens comparison. An expensive prime vs. consumer zoom comparison to be exact. I could do the same comparison with my D2X and 105mm macro vs. my d200 and 28-105mm.

The only thing it really shows to me is that primes are sharper than zooms.

oh...now I see the d40x is the sharper photo.

Quite interesting that a cheap zoom is sharper than a decently priced prime. I may have to check the nikon lens out and see for myself.

... scratching my head there with your initial comments

IMO, the official D40x sample images are quite stunning, to say the least - and all of them save one were shot RAW with the new Nikkor 55-200mm VR "consumer" zoom lens. PP was done in NX:
http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/digitalcamera/slr/d40x/sample.htm

Joe Porto said:

oh...now I see the d40x is the sharper photo.

Quite interesting that a cheap zoom is sharper than a decently
priced prime. I may have to check the nikon lens out and see for
myself.

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Nikon D40x Stuff:
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/nikon_d40x

jeff-c said:

There can be thousands of reasons why this is not a fair
comparision and I never say the comparision is meant to judge the
two cameras' capabilities. In fact even putting the two in the same
headline is a crazy enough idea as some suggests.

However, the truth of matter is the 1D3 pictures are soft, with or
without comparision to other cameras. Why Canon chooses to release
soft or under sharpen pictures is not my business. However, having
been worked in sales/marketing for some years I do know what I
would do when presenting my company' products in front of customers.

If you're interested I have some Sigma SD14 portrait comparision to
the 1D3. You probably know the outcome already.

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My reactions aren't strong, I'm only curious. What I'm trying to say is 'why bother?' If you want to point out that Canon's silly for bad advertisement, well, isn't that already obvious?

--Jeff

David Chin said:

IMO, the official D40x sample images are quite stunning, to say the
least - and all of them save one were shot RAW with the new Nikkor
55-200mm VR "consumer" zoom lens. PP was done in NX.

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I think those D40x samples are indeed stunning.

I know Canon usually shows sample jpeg images as taken with their DSLRs.

Does Nikon usually use RAW samples, then convert to jpeg? I know Pentax does it, but it's because Pentax jpegs are quite bad.

Or this conversion is only for Nikon D40x while samples for previous Nikon DSLRs are actual jpegs. I vaguely remember the D200 samples being jpeg. Not sure. Hmmm...

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... the Canon images were shot RAW and converted to JPG too, or so it says at the bottom of each sample. Even the XTi, and the models before that - you'd need to click through to each individual image to see the note, eg an XTi sample:
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eosdigital3/sample/sample1_e.html

Nikon D200 samples were also shot RAW:
http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/digitalcamera/slr/d200/sample.htm

thw said:

thw said:

IMO, the official D40x sample images are quite stunning, to say the
least - and all of them save one were shot RAW with the new Nikkor
55-200mm VR "consumer" zoom lens. PP was done in NX.

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I think those D40x samples are indeed stunning.

I know Canon usually shows sample jpeg images as taken with their
DSLRs.

Does Nikon usually use RAW samples, then convert to jpeg? I know
Pentax does it, but it's because Pentax jpegs are quite bad.

Or this conversion is only for Nikon D40x while samples for
previous Nikon DSLRs are actual jpegs. I vaguely remember the D200
samples being jpeg. Not sure. Hmmm...

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Nikon D40x stuff:
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/nikon_d40x

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Not to mention the differences in size of the relative crop (eagle head is much smaller in the image than the other bird) makes it a very invalid comparison of sharpness...

Dan198196 said:

Nikon images are inherently sharper as their trade-off is
more 'apparent' detail and as result more luminance noise.

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You just don't get it, do you:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos400d/page17.asp

"As you can see there is no discernable difference between the EOS 400D, D80 and DSLR-A100 up to ISO 400 (except for slightly better sharpness from the EOS 400D image). The EOS 400D continues this sharp detail all the way up to ISO 1600 but does have noticeably more chroma noise than the D80 which employs better chroma noise reduction. At higher sensitivities the EOS 400D delivers more detail but with slightly more chroma noise, the D80 less detail but a cleaner more 'film like' appearance to noise grain"

Also:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=21580673

(ALL images taken with Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, ALL processed with ACR with same settings)

http://astrosurf.com/buil/5d/test.htm

(scientific measurements at the sensor level, independent of in-camera jpeg or external RAW conversion)

Please, stop spewing garbage here.

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let's not get into inane technicallities. anyone can look at these two photos and tell you without a doubt that nikon's look much better.

they spend their time comparing other brands and models against their own regretful purchase.
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