Poll: If you were having a baby...

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

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Ulysses

Andrew Coupe · Feb 18, 2002

Personally, a still camera, because it catches stuff you don't see with your eye.

And, for me, the '707 is a good compromise - it's about as good a videocamera as I need.

But I would say definitely get one or the other - it's amazing how quick they grow up and change.

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

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Ulysses

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Shutter. · Feb 18, 2002

I completely agree with Sarge on this one. I have a 1, 3, and 4 year old and I would use my video camera once in a blue moon. Now, with my 707, I take mpeg video quite often. Its not the same, but it achieves what I want.

The convenience of taking and sharing pictures is just so much more convenient than video.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: I've never seen a framed video tape on a wall!

Jim

pinback said:
And, for me, the '707 is a good compromise - it's about as good a
videocamera as I need.

But I would say definitely get one or the other - it's amazing how
quick they grow up and change.

Ulysses said:

... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

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Ulysses

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JimB · Feb 18, 2002

This sounds like the perfect excuse to give them your 707 and upgrade to the 707v or whatever else is on the horizon!

I'm always looking for that angle

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

pinback said:
Personally, a still camera, because it catches stuff you don't see
with your eye.

Well, I know they also want it for the day of the delivery (which begs the question: how much stuff do I want the camera to catch which my eye does not...?)

Andrew Coupe said:
And, for me, the '707 is a good compromise - it's about as good a
videocamera as I need.

For myself it would be, too. But I'm looking to recommend this to someone, and so getting a lot of opinions will help me present options.

-- Ulysses

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

Hahahahahahah!!! Yeah!!!! I like this option!

JimB said:
This sounds like the perfect excuse to give them your 707 and
upgrade to the 707v or whatever else is on the horizon!

I'm always looking for that angle -- Ulysses

Andrew Coupe · Feb 18, 2002

Ulysses said:
pinback said:

Personally, a still camera, because it catches stuff you don't see
with your eye.

Click to expand...

Well, I know they also want it for the day of the delivery (which
begs the question: how much stuff do I want the camera to catch
which my eye does not...?)

I was thinking in terms of caught in time, but there is this issue. But then, with a digicam, you just delete the shots which are too gross/embarrassing.
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Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

pinback said:
I was thinking in terms of caught in time, but there is this issue.
But then, with a digicam, you just delete the shots which are too
gross/embarrassing.

Heheheh... let me tell you. It's going to be all I can do just to get into the delivery room. I have NO idea whether I'll be able to orchestrate/compose/shoot/catch anything at all. We'll see as this develops.

-- Ulysses

Tigadee · Feb 18, 2002

I use both equally: Digital stills for e-mailing (easier and cheaper than mailing a videotape) and video for visitors and want more than just photos in an album or on the PC screen.

Granted, home videos aren't enjoyable if they're not taken well.

I am lucky that because of my photographic experience and interest in both areas that my videos are not 'jittery' (like being in the middle of an earthquake), 'zoomy' (too much zooming in and out) or lengthy (some people I know seem to just switch on and never stop till the paint dries or the tape stops!).

In fact, I have started doing wedding videos because I shoot well and I use an NLE video editing PC to cut and paste, edit, add music, transitions & effects and finally output the finished product to a CD or video tape.

Video is satisfying for archiving important family events and milestones/landmarks with both images and sounds while I find photography does that to a lesser extent but it is more satisfing as a creative outlet.

Tigadee

Shutter. said:
Shutter wrote:
I completely agree with Sarge on this one. I have a 1, 3, and 4
year old and I would use my video camera once in a blue moon. Now,
with my 707, I take mpeg video quite often. Its not the same, but
it achieves what I want.

The convenience of taking and sharing pictures is just so much more
convenient than video.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: I've never seen a framed video tape on a wall!

Jim

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Ron Parr · Feb 18, 2002

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

If I were having a baby, I think I would be in too much discomfort to recommend cameras. I'd probably say that you should have asked me before the labor started...

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Bino · Feb 18, 2002

Hi !
I have both DSC F707 and DCR PC110

I can't say which I use more ... For my children I think PC110 ...
There have the same batery, MS, power supply

With my MAC via firewire and using iMovie I can easy and quick edit DV movies ....

So ... the choise is yours !

Bino

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

ben s · Feb 18, 2002

I really think you need both, and the smaller and more convenient, the better. The still cam is great for the now. Getting photos and sending them to relatives, and such. The video is for later, when the kid is grown up, and can look back at his/her childhood from the lens' point of view. I was lucky that my parents took alot of super 8mm when I was a kid. Those reels are envaluable now, 30+ years later. Better yet, I have quite a bit of 8mm of my father as a baby and young boy in the 40's. I think it is wonderfull that his grandson will be able to look at those films 10 or 20 years from now. Of course they've all been transfered to video.

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

Darrin Behm · Feb 18, 2002

Definately a still camera, either film or digital! I bought a nice digital video camera to catch my kid on but I think I might have used it for 2 hrs since 1998. Now that I have my Dimage 7 and Maxxum 5 they are out every week catching him doing his thing. He is getting a bit sick of it but he will appreciate it as he gets older.

But I think I got the key. He is 4 now and I let him use my Sony DSC-P30 to take pictures whenever I go out or just around the house. Of course he refers to it as his Sony now.

But as another has said you can't frame video tape. Plus I find it easier to sit and view pictures taken than sit through hours of video tape....let alone the hours needed to edit it on my PC to make it more viewable.

Darrin

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

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TurboTed · Feb 18, 2002

I say get both along with a DVD burner.

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

KD · Feb 18, 2002

It's small, cheap(ok, ~ $900), CZ lens that you like, can use FM50 battery, and can capture everything. You can capture the DV to hard drive and edit the video later on. You can also capture exact frames that you like and send to other relatives via email(pictures are small enough not to flood their yahoo or hotmail account either.

F707 is nice but you might have to turn on burst-3 to capture fast action in that room i believe(never been there before, so i'm just guessing here).

--KD

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

jpadama · Feb 18, 2002

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

Congratulation to the family. I have a 20 month old and another due in may. If you could only do one or the other. I'd say that it depends on the expertise of the photographer. What I mean is that it is great to relive your baby's first steps, first words and first time he or she dumps a bowl of noodles on their head. With video it is relatively easy to capture. I know it is difficult to make video presentable to others but I believe parent video is for the archives. It is much more challenging for a snap shooter to capture these moments on film(memstick) than it is for an enthusiast. I guess you would never want to look at a photograph and say "I wish I got that on video".

If MPEG quality is good enough then I'd say you've got another DA customer. Personally, my wife and I had reviewed video of my boy's first steps taken with my TRV8 and almost came to tears (of joy). But everytime I leave the house it is my DA that's locked and loaded.--Jay P

Cubfan · Feb 18, 2002

Camcorder. A baby's simple sounds and movements (especially when the baby first starts to smile and laugh) can be very beatiful and memorable, and can't be fully captured on a still camera. I would use both a still camera and camcorder, of course.

Ulysses said:
... and NO, it's not me and the wife. Have a relative who is having
a baby.

What do you recommend? Getting a still camera or a camcorder? And why?

--

Ulysses

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

But if they can only afford one... (the hospital costs alone will probably eat up their money from buying a second device)

ben s said:
I really think you need both, and the smaller and more convenient,
the better.

-- Ulysses

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

They can likely only afford one. And they probably have a CD burner.

Probably won't be any other large purchases of this type for quite some time, so this recommendation has to stick.

TurboTed said:
I say get both along with a DVD burner.

-- Ulysses

Ulysses · Feb 18, 2002

KD said:
F707 is nice but you might have to turn on burst-3 to capture fast
action in that room i believe(never been there before, so i'm just
guessing here).

Will the baby pop out THAT fast????

-- Ulysses

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