Sony new camera range

pegasus45 · Feb 27, 2007

Just looking at the release and spec's of the Sony DSC-W80,90 & 200 and the thought crossed my mind that Sony have pulled out and passed all the other manufacturers with these latest models. They look cool and offer some great features.

If Sony can come up with this on one camera type then the same may apply to the DSLR division. A new camera(s) could offer some new unique features as well as upgrades of previous specifications. If you think about it without blinkers on the A100 has better specifications than current competing cameras in the price bracket. A 7D replacement and new lenses(SSM) should give the Canon 30D or Nikon D200 camera division marketing manager something to think about.

I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks, they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

Bernie_King · Feb 27, 2007

pegasus45 said:
By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

There's quite a few people disappointed by the lack of a 40D announcement. It really doesn't make sense to announce the 1DMK3 at the same time as the 40D. It would kill the media cycle for the new bad boy of sports photogs. An announcement could still come for Sony, Canon, or Nikon but it's unlikely at this point. It seems that the only DSLR that will be announced at this PMA is a pro level Canon. That being said, the 40D will come this year. There's not much question about that. At the worst, this fall as Canon keeps a pretty tight 18mo schedule. There are still some big shows comming up soon, one of which is in Tokyo next month. Maybe then we'll all get what we hope for. As for myself, I'm watching the used market for a good deal on a 1DMK2.
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fjbyrne · Feb 27, 2007

pegasus45 said:
Just looking at the release and spec's of the Sony DSC-W80,90 & 200
and the thought crossed my mind that Sony have pulled out and
passed all the other manufacturers with these latest models. They
look cool and offer some great features.

Sony makes nice P&S cameras.

pegasus45 said:
If Sony can come up with this on one camera type then the same may
apply to the DSLR division. A new camera(s) could offer some new
unique features as well as upgrades of previous specifications. If
you think about it without blinkers on the A100 has better
specifications than current competing cameras in the price bracket.
A 7D replacement and new lenses(SSM) should give the Canon 30D or
Nikon D200 camera division marketing manager something to think
about.

The A100 is a nice and competitive camera but I don't necessarily think it out-specs its competition. What do you think is in its price bracket? I would say the D80 and 400D and maybe the K10D. All good cameras with various strengths and weaknesses. SSS is the main factor separating the A100 from the D80 and 400D IMO.

pegasus45 said:
I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have
changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks,
they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

Well I really do think it is a matter of timing. Most abti-Sony people jumped off the wagon a while back I would guess. Those that are jumping now have been waiting patiently and can't wait any longer.

I'm not sure what I am going to do in the near future but I am holding onto my A-mount lenses since I do think that Sony will be releasing some very desirable cameras in the future.

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Elgsdyr · Feb 27, 2007

pegasus45 said:
By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

Following their release cycle until now, it should come in Q3.

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BillCarr · Feb 28, 2007

Elgsdyr said:
pegasus45 said:

By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

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Following their release cycle until now, it should come in Q3.

Their release cycle was 12 months for one model a couple of years back. A 40D model may well be introduced next month at PMA.

toughluck · Feb 28, 2007

BillCarr said:
Elgsdyr said:

pegasus45 said:

By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

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Following their release cycle until now, it should come in Q3.

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Their release cycle was 12 months for one model a couple of years
back. A 40D model may well be introduced next month at PMA.

Well, you might be in some obscure, remote time zone for all we know, but PMA is this month (it is March already). And Canon don't seem to be announcing anything with one week to go.

As has been already said: they don't want to take the spotlight off the 1D3...

José B · Feb 28, 2007

are normally upgraded every 18 months. So, 40D should come around August of this year. If I remember correctly, the D60 was upgraded to a 10D in about a year.

José

pegasus45 said:
I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have
changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks,
they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

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Framous · Feb 28, 2007

The current one appeared at the same time as the 1DMII.
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Riccati · Feb 28, 2007

toughluck said:
Well, you might be in some obscure, remote time zone for all we
know, but PMA is this month (it is March already).

err, obscure? It's still February in America, Europe and most of Asia... Australia is in March though...

dnjake · Feb 28, 2007

Framous said:
The current one appeared at the same time as the 1DMII.
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The 1D Mark II appeared at PMA 2004. The 20D appeared in August 2004. Just like the Sony DSLR forum, the Canon forums are filled with people subject to fantasies. Canon introduces two or three new models a year and appears to be on a three year cycle now for major upgrades.

Sony is probably going to introduce one new DSLR each year sometime during the summer on a schedule targeted at the Christmas buying season. We will have to wait and see whether they go with a two model or a three model strategy and whether or not they are going to try to compete with the 40D/D200. When the 40D arrives in August it will be an incremental but still significant upgrade of the 20D/30D. Sony will have to worry that their potential competitor might not quite match up.
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triple_kaizer · Feb 28, 2007

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toughluck · Feb 28, 2007

Riccati said:
Riccati said:

Well, you might be in some obscure, remote time zone for all we
know, but PMA is this month (it is March already).

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err, obscure? It's still February in America, Europe and most of
Asia... Australia is in March though...

Sorry. Thought it was March already. Seriously, I just lost (and now, regained) 28th February...
Sheesh...

Nereo · Feb 28, 2007

Riccati said:
err, obscure? It's still February in America, Europe and most of
Asia... Australia is in March though...

dammit, i knew Australia had pulled ahead of us. maybe its the lack of school funding...

BillCarr · Feb 28, 2007

toughluck said:
BillCarr said:

Elgsdyr said:

pegasus45 said:

By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

Click to expand...

Following their release cycle until now, it should come in Q3.

Click to expand...

Their release cycle was 12 months for one model a couple of years
back. A 40D model may well be introduced next month at PMA.

Click to expand...

Well, you might be in some obscure, remote time zone for all we
know, but PMA is this month (it is March already).

Actually, it was (and still is) 28 February in this remote area called New York.

George Kalemanis · Feb 28, 2007

Looking at this new announcement, I believe that Sony doesn't care about high end bodies, just consumer type bodies. I've about had it, I want and need high end pro bodies and Sony just doesn't cut it. Minolta used to be on the cutting edge of technology, that has long since past.

pegasus45 said:
Just looking at the release and spec's of the Sony DSC-W80,90 & 200
and the thought crossed my mind that Sony have pulled out and
passed all the other manufacturers with these latest models. They
look cool and offer some great features.

If Sony can come up with this on one camera type then the same may
apply to the DSLR division. A new camera(s) could offer some new
unique features as well as upgrades of previous specifications. If
you think about it without blinkers on the A100 has better
specifications than current competing cameras in the price bracket.
A 7D replacement and new lenses(SSM) should give the Canon 30D or
Nikon D200 camera division marketing manager something to think
about.

I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have
changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks,
they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

Ray Garrison · Feb 28, 2007

I'm sorry both of you are disappointed. The other 10 million people who are excited by the Sony announcements will send flowers.

George Kalemanis said:
pegasus45 said:

Just looking at the release and spec's of the Sony DSC-W80,90 & 200
and the thought crossed my mind that Sony have pulled out and
passed all the other manufacturers with these latest models. They
look cool and offer some great features.

If Sony can come up with this on one camera type then the same may
apply to the DSLR division. A new camera(s) could offer some new
unique features as well as upgrades of previous specifications. If
you think about it without blinkers on the A100 has better
specifications than current competing cameras in the price bracket.
A 7D replacement and new lenses(SSM) should give the Canon 30D or
Nikon D200 camera division marketing manager something to think
about.

I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have
changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks,
they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

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mHectorGato · Mar 1, 2007

This is why I'm holding off on purchasing a DSLR. I'm ready to move up, having used my friend's KM 7D several times and am satisfied with my ability to start learning a DSLR. I'm happy with my Z1, but want better low light capacity, more MP (it's only 3) and more better IQ.

I was sold on the A100, now I'm not so sure. One of my "concerns" are that shortly after purchasing a A100, Sony will release another camera with some neat features, as you mentioned in your post.

I realize that these wiz-bang features won't make me a better photographer in of themselves. But they may allow me to get a photo when I normally couldn't.

Unlike most of you, I have absolutely no glass to tie me to a particular system. I'm starting to lean towards a D80 (despite it's increased $$), but if Sony announces (doesn't have to be released) a new model, I'll likely stay with Sony.

pegasus45 said:
Just looking at the release and spec's of the Sony DSC-W80,90 & 200
and the thought crossed my mind that Sony have pulled out and
passed all the other manufacturers with these latest models. They
look cool and offer some great features.

If Sony can come up with this on one camera type then the same may
apply to the DSLR division. A new camera(s) could offer some new
unique features as well as upgrades of previous specifications. If
you think about it without blinkers on the A100 has better
specifications than current competing cameras in the price bracket.
A 7D replacement and new lenses(SSM) should give the Canon 30D or
Nikon D200 camera division marketing manager something to think
about.

I really have to wonder about the people who have claim to have
changed systems (blaming it all on Sony) in the last few weeks,
they could be kicking themselves anytime soon. By the way wheres
the Canon "40D" announcement?

toughluck · Mar 1, 2007

BillCarr said:
toughluck said:

BillCarr said:

Elgsdyr said:

pegasus45 said:

By the way wheres the Canon "40D" announcement?

Click to expand...

Following their release cycle until now, it should come in Q3.

Click to expand...

Their release cycle was 12 months for one model a couple of years
back. A 40D model may well be introduced next month at PMA.

Click to expand...

Well, you might be in some obscure, remote time zone for all we
know, but PMA is this month (it is March already).

Click to expand...

Actually, it was (and still is) 28 February in this remote area
called New York.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=22246248

And yes, I do feel stupid.

tweedle · Mar 1, 2007

mHectorGato said:
One of my "concerns"
are that shortly after purchasing a A100, Sony will release another
camera with some neat features

They will, no doubt. Everybody does that. Again and again. It's the nature of the industry.

There will always be a next generation. It will be here soon. You may decide to wait for it, but after 3, 6, 12 months the situation will be the same.

The only losers here are the pictures that you never took while waiting.

Basically, a modern DSLR like the A100 is capable of taking pictures far, far beyond its owner.

mHectorGato · Mar 1, 2007

tweedle said:
mHectorGato said:

One of my "concerns"
are that shortly after purchasing a A100, Sony will release another
camera with some neat features

Click to expand...

They will, no doubt. Everybody does that. Again and again. It's the
nature of the industry.

There will always be a next generation. It will be here soon. You
may decide to wait for it, but after 3, 6, 12 months the situation
will be the same.

The only losers here are the pictures that you never took while
waiting.

Basically, a modern DSLR like the A100 is capable of taking
pictures far, far beyond its owner.

I understand the point. It's a difficult decision to make without an investment already in lenses, plus with a relatively limited budget.

I'm ready to make that purchase. My concern is if I buy a A100 tomorrow, will Sony announce another body in the next few weeks that will fit me better.

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