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Phil's words. Not mine.

I'm sure he's going to slam this camera for the same thing... NOT.
 
And very little details on it.

I think the D20 that was made for astro work also had a live view feature.

I don't think this is anything for the anti-mirrorites to get to crazed over yet. wait and see the details. It may just a mode that flips the mirror up and puts some low res (of course it's low res) image on the back, then flips the mirror back down for a moment to focus and such.

Be interesting if they have a full out focusing system when the mirror is up. Or one that has no performance hit. If they do that, it could be something, but seeing they don't make a big deal about it in the release, I'm doubting it does.
 
See the Whole Picture with a Live View LCD

One of the landmark functions of the EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR is the introduction of a Live View shooting mode, tweaked to meet the needs of professional shooters. Photographers who use point-and-shoot digital cameras are familiar with looking at the LCD screen on the back of the camera to compose their images. Normally, a single lens reflex cannot do this because the mirror that lets you look through the lens is in the way. With the EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR, a photographer has several options in addition to conventional SLR through-the-lens viewing. If the camera is going to be close at hand, the new Live View shooting mode lets the user focus and compose on the extra-large 3.0-inch LCD screen and magnify the image 5x or 10x, to achieve the optimal focus. If a user is going to be several feet away from the camera, in a studio, for example, the camera can be connected to a computer with a USB 2.0 high-speed cable. New software included with the camera, EOS Utility 2.0, lets you view what the camera is seeing in real time and control its operation. If a professional photographer is going to be far away from the camera, say, on the other side of a racetrack or stadium, or if the camera is hidden or buried someplace inaccessible, the EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR can be operated wirelessly with the assistance of the new WFT- E2A Wireless File Transmitter. This allows users to view images directly off the camera’s sensor in virtually real time with the ability to adjust many camera settings on the fly. As a side benefit, Live View shooting mode helps to reduce vibration by lifting the reflex mirror out of the optical path well in advance of the exposure, improving image quality at slow shutter speeds.
 
PhotoTraveler said:
And very little details on it.
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More here:

http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20070221_1dmark3.html
PhotoTraveler said:
I don't think this is anything for the anti-mirrorites to get to
crazed over yet. wait and see the details. It may just a mode
that flips the mirror up and puts some low res (of course it's low
res) image on the back, then flips the mirror back down for a
moment to focus and such.
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5x and 10x magnification, doesn't say explicitly but I'd guess manual focus only. Looks like E-330 mode B.

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nickleback said:
5x and 10x magnification, doesn't say explicitly but I'd guess
manual focus only. Looks like E-330 mode B.
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Very similar indeed. Seems no contrast detection AF using main sensor and no exposure/live histogram either. But does not flip the mirror like E330 - so, no lag between using Live View and shooting and no vibration (good for microscopy). Also USB 2.0 connection for viewing the image from the sensor on a computer monitor (that one like Fuji's S5pro Live View) instead of plain AV output - that gives a better displaying resolution.
 
Reading the whitepaper at robgolbraith.

You can only manual focus with it, it's basically designed for tripod work of stills, and or remote usage. Not exactly sure what they are doing for metering.

So in the end, it's not a huge advance. Really it's a nice remote tethered system. Which is nice. But far away from becoming an EVIL with a legacy mirror, still limited. But it's about what anyone would have expected for now. Impressive step.
 
It's mainly for tethered use, so tilting the screen would have little value. It's manual focus only in that mode and looks to have limited metering.
 
PhotoTraveler said:
It's mainly for tethered use, so tilting the screen would have
little value. It's manual focus only in that mode and looks to
have limited metering.
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I see, but still the tilting screen is what make the Live View so powerful.
It give you tremendous relief when mounted in a tripod, etc.
You can get away in many situations if the LCD has a wide angle of view though.

Many Pro photographers will discover the benefits of Live View now that Canon is giving it the blessing. But it will take some time because many photographers are used to shoot with peepholes only AKA OVF and this implementation is still a far cry of full live view.

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I could care less about it outputting to the rear screen. Those screens do little for ya. But I do like the tethered shooting. If it as it sounds, that is down at full res. So you could set this thing up some place and do fine manual focus control on it at full res remotely. That would be nice in other cameras.

On the camera, can't see ever using it.
 
APS-H, not APS-C.

But sure, why not? This is a specialist sports-shooter. It gives you 10 fps at up to ISO 3200 (or 6400 - H). Those are the headline specs. Increase the MP and you decrease the ISO and frame rate.

If you want higher resolution, get a 1Ds (probably soon to be updated to III).

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PhotoTraveler said:
I could care less about it outputting to the rear screen. Those
screens do little for ya. But I do like the tethered shooting. If
it as it sounds, that is down at full res. So you could set this
thing up some place and do fine manual focus control on it at full
res remotely. That would be nice in other cameras.
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I've done that with my Pro1.
Is awesome especially to find prefect Manual Focus.
When hooked to a TV is great.
PhotoTraveler said:
On the camera, can't see ever using it.
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Perhaps because you has never bother seriously trying it with a decent live view camera.

Since I left the Viewfinder 2 years ago in place of the LCD live view I never looked back.

Using the LCD allows to handhold the camera in more STABLE positions other than to your head. Usually waist level and monopod leaned against the chest.

Also there are many cameras out there with crappy LCD that can't be seen in bright light which is another reason why people don't use them more often.

The infamous and unstable "Shooting at arms lengths" with Live LCD is just a bad use consumers have on them.

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So Canon copied the Live view mode B of my Olympus E-330.

But I mostly use Live View mode A when using Live view on my E-330, because this mode has Autofocus.

regards.
 
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