Franco.. All I can say is "WOW" . I really love these pictures! The clarity and color are wonderful! What camera did you use? I love the water drop off the bill in the 2nd picture. Cannot wait to see more!
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Franco.. All I can say is "WOW" . I really love these pictures! The clarity and color are wonderful! What camera did you use? I love the water drop off the bill in the 2nd picture. Cannot wait to see more!
oh god, if i new my pics will be a cause of this, i wouldn't have
posted them in the first place. all comments are welcome. i am not
offended by Daniella's comments, if this is her opinion, well
that's her opinion, i can live with that, this is what makes humans
different, the way they see things. Daniella sees something wrong
with the colours, and most of you don't. but i would have felt
better if her opinion was said in a nicer way. anyway, i have
learned alot from you guys, this is a very nice forum, so let's
keep it this way..
--
franco
Lori
oh god, if i new my pics will be a cause of this, i wouldn't have
posted them in the first place. all comments are welcome. i am not
offended by Daniella's comments, if this is her opinion, well
that's her opinion, i can live with that, this is what makes humans
different, the way they see things. Daniella sees something wrong
with the colours, and most of you don't. but i would have felt
better if her opinion was said in a nicer way. anyway, i have
learned alot from you guys, this is a very nice forum, so let's
keep it this way..
--
franco
Franco, you said it perfectly! When we post, we are usually asking for advice and need to be able to take it in stride. Everybody is going to have a different opinion is some way or another! Maybe it would be best for all to put the claws back into place and have some fun!!!oh god, if i new my pics will be a cause of this, i wouldn't have
posted them in the first place. all comments are welcome. i am not
offended by Daniella's comments, if this is her opinion, well
that's her opinion, i can live with that, this is what makes humans
different, the way they see things. Daniella sees something wrong
with the colours, and most of you don't. but i would have felt
better if her opinion was said in a nicer way. anyway, i have
learned alot from you guys, this is a very nice forum, so let's
keep it this way..
--
franco
It's not her "opinion" of your shots that is the problem, Franco. It's her underlying need to belittle the camera itself... not your photography. She's been busily promoting the C700's manual white balance over the 2100's image stabilization and this was just another of her attempts to do that.oh god, if i new my pics will be a cause of this, i wouldn't have
posted them in the first place. all comments are welcome. i am not
offended by Daniella's comments, if this is her opinion, well
that's her opinion, i can live with that, this is what makes humans
different, the way they see things. Daniella sees something wrong
with the colours, and most of you don't. but i would have felt
better if her opinion was said in a nicer way. anyway, i have
learned alot from you guys, this is a very nice forum, so let's
keep it this way..
--
franco
Well it was not a judgement at all, it was just how i felt about that photo, that's all.textbook for that,
The real reason you responded this way is because you can not bring
yourself to say there may be the possibility you rushed to
judgement.
back beddling? what's that?you are entitled to your opinion, but right now, you are doing to
much back peddling Daniella.
Sure i did, i said i should have said this differently, i did not realize it was so rude. but agian its not a judgement but how i felt about the colors. Even if the colors were like that i still don,t like them.The Swans beak is brown, and supposed to be that way, brown tint.
I guess we will never hear, that you might have missed (not the
boat), but the entire ocean on this one.
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I tend to believe you, this time, when you say that you didn't think your comment was rude. However, when people pointed out to you that it sounded rude, it would have been nice if you had immediately said, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt anyone," and then gone on to explain why you made the comments you made. Of course, you, like everyone else, are entitled to your opinion.well sorry but i did not thought my comment on his photo was so
rude. I did say the swan was nice...i only did not liked the
colors and thought the white balance was off.
Like i did not thought that calling a woman "lady" was bad???
since when this is rude? is the proper term "madame"?
THATS HOW she felt, and you jumped on it. now you want ot use this excuse. maybe your right, your english is poor, because you make no sense at all now.Well it was not a judgement at all, it was just how i felt about
that photo, that's all.
trying to justify your side of the story, and you can not.back beddling? what's that? back peddling
Well, there is lots of things i really don't understand, why is it an insult to call a woman "lady" for me its the same as saying madame. That is surely something i don,t understand.I tend to believe you, this time, when you say that you didn'tLike i did not thought that calling a woman "lady" was bad???
since when this is rude? is the proper term "madame"?
think your comment was rude. However, when people pointed out to
you that it sounded rude, it would have been nice if you had
immediately said, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt anyone," and
then gone on to explain why you made the comments you made. Of
course, you, like everyone else, are entitled to your opinion.
Frequently I have been disturbed by your comments on this forum but
I usually attributed it to the fact that English is not your native
language. I believe now, however, that the problem is not that your
English is not good, (it is very good) but rather that it is
missing the native subtleties.
Surely French people are very different from American..like for example, if you go in Montreal, people that you don't know will never salut you, and if you do they will look at you like you're from Mars or something...but this is very common here in USA. Same thing for Russian, my boyfriend is Russian and told me it is the same on Russia. but i don't think french people are rude for that.You tend to very abrupt in your comments and I may be wrong, and
this is NOT meant as an insult, but my experience is that French
people tend to be abrupt and they speak more abruptly than
Americans. (Yes, I have been to France and I have studied French).
Different cultures- different people.
Well, a little difference maybe, but its easy when you put it that way...but for me to actually come up with something like that would be difficult.You obviously have been in America long enough to have learned the
language well but not quite long enough to pick up the nuances and
the subtleties. Your comments to Franco, and the fact that you see
nothing wrong with it, indicates that.
For example:
You said, "The swan itself is nice but the colors are very muddy or
brownish, even for the water. Looks like the white balance was way
off on those swan photos...
The third photo seam to be better for colors. "
You might have said:
"Nice pictures Franco. It seems to me (or "I think perhaps") that
the colors are a little muddy or brownish. Maybe the white balance
was off a little. .."
etc. etc."
Do you see the difference here Daniella?
Hmm..that is where we have difference, because i would prefer to hear the crude trut. And if later i would learn from some one that you actually hated it and told me something else, i would be not happy about it.If you got your hair done and asked me what I thought of it, I
wouldn't say "I hate that color and the hair is much too short!" I
might say, it looks pretty good but I think I would like it a
little longer since you have such a nice shaped face and when it's
longer it seems to frame it better."
Hmm..its strange and confusing...because i posted only 2 time negative comments on photo, and the woman who posted the photo was a bit insulted because i had apologize for my comment first..so its hard to know what will be best to say in advance.Both statements are honest but the first is "brutally" honest and
the latter is softened.
Have you ever heard the expression: "Just a spoonful of sugar helps
the medicine go down.?"
ok i did not know that...still don,t understand the difference but i will try to keep that in mind.I think too that you must be rather young- for in youth we often
find arrogance. When you're young everything tends to be black and
white and you can't quite understand why everyone doesn't see
things as you do. Age tempers us.
Be aware that this forum is made up of a variety of people and many
of us are considerably older than you are (dare I say "and
wiser?"). We have a lifetime of experience, we have mellowed and we
tend to take trivial things less seriously than younger people do.
And though I hate to admit this since I was a teacher for 20 years,
the teacher is not always right.
Yes many are here to learn but this is not a formal institution of
learning. We are here primarily because we enjoy photography and we
like sharing this enjoyment with others. We come here for pleasure
as much as for learning.
And, finally,
Saying that someone is a lady is not insulting but callling out to
someone with a "Hey, Lady" or saying "Listen, lady..." is.
anyway, i am going for the weekend and will be traveling for a while..so this will be good for every oneAgain, we have the problem of the nuances of language.
I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here. Perhaps you
might want to think about all this.
thanks for your comments, sorry i could not respond earlier, my
connection was off.
i was using my lovely UZI, auto WB, ISO 100, A mode and spot focus.
i think that these photos are accurate interms of the swan's
colors, yes they are brownish, we even have almost black swans
here. as for the muddy looking water which Daniella was talking
about, i agree, the water looks muddy, actually the water was very
muddy and kind of oily. thanks to the garbage dump next to it.
--
franco
C'mon your inteligent enough to get what she is saying, if not ask your TeacherWell, there is lots of things i really don't understand, why is it
an insult to call a woman "lady" for me its the same as saying
madame. That is surely something i don,t understand.
There you go, it was an expression, we must all think before we speak. If you read the last post from Franco to 3DTIM, you will see, if you had inquired first, you could have understood the context in which the artist chose to shoot his subject. Remember beauty is in the eye of the beholderI think the mistake i made here was not about the comment i made on
Franco photo, but more the comment i made about the honesty of
other comments..i guess i did not use the right word, i should have
used..don't even know...maybe accurancy? I thought that it was
wrong to say the colors were perfect but i did not realize she was
saying this because she really liked the colors. So that was not
good of me to say this.
You are in America, learn to be like one,and it help you to blend in instead of always trying to justify your actions.Surely French people are very different from American..like for
example, if you go in Montreal, people that you don't know will
never salut you, and if you do they will look at you like you're
from Mars or something...but this is very common here in USA. Same
thing for Russian, my boyfriend is Russian and told me it is the
same on Russia. but i don't think french people are rude for that.
So do not say it at all, think first, and approach with caution. Ask and imply without being so pushy.Well, a little difference maybe, but its easy when you put it that
way...but for me to actually come up with something like that would
be difficult.
I want to see that conversation, you get the right or (wrong) person, and she is going to call you on, can you not understand how to be tactfulHmm..that is where we have difference, because i would prefer to
hear the crude trut. And if later i would learn from some one that
you actually hated it and told me something else, i would be not
happy about it.
You understand, if you do not, use the person's name, Stop playing dumb Daniella we are on to you.ok i did not know that...still don,t understand the difference but
i will try to keep that in mind.