Minolta Digital SLRs

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I own a Minolta 707si SLR and have accumulated a number of lenses through the years. I've been holding out on digital photography until a body comes out to accept my lens investment. It seems silly of Minolta to NOT offer a digital SLR that will accept standard Minolta lenses.

Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?

Thanks.--JDW
 
I would suspect that if there isn't at least a rumbling of such a product by this years' PMA, the answer, unfortunately for you, is never ...
I own a Minolta 707si SLR and have accumulated a number of lenses
through the years. I've been holding out on digital photography
until a body comes out to accept my lens investment. It seems
silly of Minolta to NOT offer a digital SLR that will accept
standard Minolta lenses.

Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?

Thanks.
--
JDW
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I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9 will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing manufacturers.--Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
Are you certain about this this? All I've heard from Minolta is that there are no plans to release a DSLR at this time. Then again Minolta is always saying this about any product until they are launch.

They are a lot of Minolta users awaiting a DSLR with any luck in based on the Dynax/Maxum 7 film SLR.

I cannot imagine a DSLR also taking other lens brands lenses to as the mounts are quite different. If they could do that then it would increase potential sells.

Anyway, lets wait and see what Minolta announce at PMA?

Emmanuel
I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9
will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing
manufacturers.
--
Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
I doubt that is the case Dr. G. Minolta were slow releasing there Dimage 7/5 cameras compared to the likes of Nikon, Canon etc. I think Minolta will release a pro camera when they feel they can sell it at the right price.
I own a Minolta 707si SLR and have accumulated a number of lenses
through the years. I've been holding out on digital photography
until a body comes out to accept my lens investment. It seems
silly of Minolta to NOT offer a digital SLR that will accept
standard Minolta lenses.

Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?

Thanks.
--
JDW
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  • Dr. G.
E-10 FAQ: http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/e10faq.html
 
lol...

Minolta also recently issued a press release indicating disposable camera lenses could also be torn out of their original bodies and used in a special mount.

Pinholes expected for Q4 2002.
I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9
will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing
manufacturers.
--
Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
Ignore anything that gonzo has to say, he is a troll from the olympus forum. He has a simple, insecure life and he like to attempt to place doubts into peoples minds that like equipment other than olympus which is a minor company compared to minolta.
I own a Minolta 707si SLR and have accumulated a number of lenses
through the years. I've been holding out on digital photography
until a body comes out to accept my lens investment. It seems
silly of Minolta to NOT offer a digital SLR that will accept
standard Minolta lenses.

Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?

Thanks.
--
JDW
--
  • Dr. G.
E-10 FAQ: http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/e10faq.html
 
Please do not forget the Minolta Ultra Turbo Snapmatic 3000 with the time machine feature that allows you to re capture missed shots
Minolta also recently issued a press release indicating disposable
camera lenses could also be torn out of their original bodies and
used in a special mount.

Pinholes expected for Q4 2002.
I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9
will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing
manufacturers.
--
Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
Report Dr Gonzo as a troll in the Minolta Forum!
Minolta also recently issued a press release indicating disposable
camera lenses could also be torn out of their original bodies and
used in a special mount.

Pinholes expected for Q4 2002.
I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9
will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing
manufacturers.
--
Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
Please do not forget the Minolta Ultra Turbo Snapmatic 3000 with
the time machine feature that allows you to re capture missed shots
I suspect many people are waiting for the Dimage 11 which tells you've taken too many pictures of your cat, and to take pictures of something else for a change. Now, it isn't the photographers waiting for this feature, but the wives, husbands, and other relatives of the photographer that are demanding it.
 
Please do not forget the Minolta Ultra Turbo Snapmatic 3000 with
the time machine feature that allows you to re capture missed shots
I suspect many people are waiting for the Dimage 11 which tells
you've taken too many pictures of your cat, and to take pictures of
something else for a change. Now, it isn't the photographers
waiting for this feature, but the wives, husbands, and other
relatives of the photographer that are demanding it.
LOL!

Now that's a camera my wife would let me spend a four figure sum on! I think I'd have to find out how to disable the alarm, though, that could get quite annoying...
 
Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?
I hope they won't. "Normal" lenses are just not good enough. They were designed to produce a large focal plane and a lot of compromises have been made to keep an equall quality image all over the focal plane.

One CCD pixel is much smaller than the errors those "old" lenses produce. This means the CCD chip is perfectly suited to capture these errors. Is this what you want? an error meassuring device?? ;-))) Do not get me wrong, these lenses are perfect and ideal for film.

That's why they designed a superior lens for the D7.

regards,
Ronny
 
Ron

From a technical point of view I agree with you completely - CCD's and film have different requirements from the way the lense delivers the light to it for optimun results. The D7, D5, and S304 using the new GT lenses are great proof of the results you can acheive from a properly designed lens for the digital application.

On the other hand, it would be nice to have a DSLR from Minolta to take advantage of all my Minolta AF lenses i've aquired for my film SLR's. Minolta COULD design a new series of lenses just for a DSLR and while the end result would probably be a better design it wouldn't help all the other existing Minolta lens owners utilize their existing lenses.

Minolta had a VERY popular DSLR a number of years ago called the RD-175 based on the than current Maxxum 500si camera and it accepted the Maxxum AF lenses. At the time it was the top selling Pro-level DSLR on the market. Their next model was the RD-3000 that was a good performer (for it's time) but never caught on well because it was designed based on the Vectis S1 SLR (APS) body and accepted the Vectis lenses only. The reasoning at the time was very sound technically. APS format, and therefore the Vectis APS lenses, were closer in size to a digital CCD chip compared to lenses such as the Maxxum series lenses. Using the Vectis lenses allowed the lense magnifacation factor to be only 1.5x instead of the normal 2x WITHOUT using a seperate relay optic and therefore causing an unnecessary light loss at the CCD. Unfortunatly, APS SLR's were never popular and not a lot of customers already had the Vectis lenses to use them and they were reluctant to purchase a whole other series of lenses to use. Most people that have lenses already want to buy a DSLR that allows them to utilize their existing lenses. Most people who own Nikon film SLR's are going to be more interested in the D1 cameras over the Canon digital SLR and vice versa so they don't have to invest in an additional number of new lenses. It would be nice for Minolta to introduce a DSLR that does accept the existing Maxxum lenses for this reason.

Using existing lenses may involve SOME compromise compared to designing an entirely new series of lenses to work with a DSLR but Minolta would sell a lot more if they designed it to work with current lenses. The ability to sell more units is really going to be the deciding factore soley because of sound business practices. of course, whether or not Minolta decides to offer a new DSLR at all is going to be based on their predictions of how many units they feel they would be able to sell overall. If they feel they can sell enough units in a relatively small market (the market being the total number of customers willing and able to purchase a several thousand dollar Pro-level camera body) currently dominated by established competitors in that market (Nikon and Canon) than I'm sure they will release the camera. If they decide the market can't support Minolta's introduction into it and not enough units would be sold to justify their considerable expense in devoloping and manufacturing this model than they won't.

I can be pretty sure that because of their past success with the RD-175 Minolta has at the very least considered a new DSLR. The only question remains what their decision on a new model is......
Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?
I hope they won't. "Normal" lenses are just not good enough. They
were designed to produce a large focal plane and a lot of
compromises have been made to keep an equall quality image all over
the focal plane.

One CCD pixel is much smaller than the errors those "old" lenses
produce. This means the CCD chip is perfectly suited to capture
these errors. Is this what you want? an error meassuring device??
;-))) Do not get me wrong, these lenses are perfect and ideal for
film.

That's why they designed a superior lens for the D7.

regards,
Ronny
 
I have non-D lenses. Only my 100-300 goes beyond 28-200. However, I can see the advantage of a more rugged lens mount for add-ons like the B-300 1.7 teleconverter. I noticed that my Maxxum XTsi is not much bigger than the D7 from the right grip to the lens but the grip juts out about 1/2-inch more and that fills the curve of one's hand better. As long as they are providing a new body they could align the tripod hole with the lens and a little further back.
MartyB
From a technical point of view I agree with you completely - CCD's
and film have different requirements from the way the lense
delivers the light to it for optimun results. The D7, D5, and S304
using the new GT lenses are great proof of the results you can
acheive from a properly designed lens for the digital application.
On the other hand, it would be nice to have a DSLR from Minolta to
take advantage of all my Minolta AF lenses i've aquired for my film
SLR's. Minolta COULD design a new series of lenses just for a DSLR
and while the end result would probably be a better design it
wouldn't help all the other existing Minolta lens owners utilize
their existing lenses.
Minolta had a VERY popular DSLR a number of years ago called the
RD-175 based on the than current Maxxum 500si camera and it
accepted the Maxxum AF lenses. At the time it was the top selling
Pro-level DSLR on the market. Their next model was the RD-3000 that
was a good performer (for it's time) but never caught on well
because it was designed based on the Vectis S1 SLR (APS) body and
accepted the Vectis lenses only. The reasoning at the time was very
sound technically. APS format, and therefore the Vectis APS lenses,
were closer in size to a digital CCD chip compared to lenses such
as the Maxxum series lenses. Using the Vectis lenses allowed the
lense magnifacation factor to be only 1.5x instead of the normal 2x
WITHOUT using a seperate relay optic and therefore causing an
unnecessary light loss at the CCD. Unfortunatly, APS SLR's were
never popular and not a lot of customers already had the Vectis
lenses to use them and they were reluctant to purchase a whole
other series of lenses to use. Most people that have lenses already
want to buy a DSLR that allows them to utilize their existing
lenses. Most people who own Nikon film SLR's are going to be more
interested in the D1 cameras over the Canon digital SLR and vice
versa so they don't have to invest in an additional number of new
lenses. It would be nice for Minolta to introduce a DSLR that does
accept the existing Maxxum lenses for this reason.
Using existing lenses may involve SOME compromise compared to
designing an entirely new series of lenses to work with a DSLR but
Minolta would sell a lot more if they designed it to work with
current lenses. The ability to sell more units is really going to
be the deciding factore soley because of sound business practices.
of course, whether or not Minolta decides to offer a new DSLR at
all is going to be based on their predictions of how many units
they feel they would be able to sell overall. If they feel they can
sell enough units in a relatively small market (the market being
the total number of customers willing and able to purchase a
several thousand dollar Pro-level camera body) currently dominated
by established competitors in that market (Nikon and Canon) than
I'm sure they will release the camera. If they decide the market
can't support Minolta's introduction into it and not enough units
would be sold to justify their considerable expense in devoloping
and manufacturing this model than they won't.
I can be pretty sure that because of their past success with the
RD-175 Minolta has at the very least considered a new DSLR. The
only question remains what their decision on a new model is......
Would anyone happen to know when or even if Minolta will come out
with a big brother to the D-7 that accepts standard lenses?
I hope they won't. "Normal" lenses are just not good enough. They
were designed to produce a large focal plane and a lot of
compromises have been made to keep an equall quality image all over
the focal plane.

One CCD pixel is much smaller than the errors those "old" lenses
produce. This means the CCD chip is perfectly suited to capture
these errors. Is this what you want? an error meassuring device??
;-))) Do not get me wrong, these lenses are perfect and ideal for
film.

That's why they designed a superior lens for the D7.

regards,
Ronny
 
All it would take is for one of these guys to
use the Tamron Adaptall mount on their camera.
I cannot imagine a DSLR also taking other lens brands lenses to as
the mounts are quite different. If they could do that then it would
increase potential sells.
I heard, straight from Minolta and Mike Roberts, that the new D9
will accept ALL past Minolta lenses, plus many from competing
manufacturers.
--
Mr Pedagogue - Win XP Pro, D7, PSP7
 
OK and what are the reasons that first digital camera with the Foveon X3 is a digital camera with a 3:2 format using Sigma 35mm lenses. It could flop just because its Sigma for that matter but Foven and 35mm are two different issues. 3:4 format is closer to 8x10 (or 6x4.5 from Bronica, Mamiya 220 format). But that's just the current video format. What about the influence of 9:16 HDTV when HDTV DVD's become available.
It's not clear to me what's going to happen.
MartyB
But I honestly think the 35mm standard for digital cameras is on
its way out, especially with the release of new technologies like
X3. Therefore if Minolta doesn't show something soon, I don't think
they ever will.
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IMHO sigma's camera was destined for a different sensor but once they got word of X3, they did what they had to to cram the sensor in there. It's FAR too small for the camera, evidenced by the 1.7x multiplier. That's not ideal by any means (heck, a even a 20mm low-end would end up 34mm).

I think if technolgies such as X3 can provide good results in smaller packages (4/3 is the largest X3 announced), then there will be a push toward a smaller standard. Freeing photographers from 35mm-sized (and priced) equipment is a direction I think the industry has to admit is real progress.

But the technology is new, thus there is still room for a transitional product using legacy lenses -- which is why I don't rule out Minolta introducing something this year. If they don't, however, I suspect they may never.
OK and what are the reasons that first digital camera with the
Foveon X3 is a digital camera with a 3:2 format using Sigma 35mm
lenses. It could flop just because its Sigma for that matter but
Foven and 35mm are two different issues. 3:4 format is closer to
8x10 (or 6x4.5 from Bronica, Mamiya 220 format). But that's just
the current video format. What about the influence of 9:16 HDTV
when HDTV DVD's become available.
It's not clear to me what's going to happen.
MartyB
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I see so if they don't come out with a camera that takes 35mm this year in your opinion, all their future cameras will take smaller lenses.
MartyB
I think if technolgies such as X3 can provide good results in
smaller packages (4/3 is the largest X3 announced), then there will
be a push toward a smaller standard. Freeing photographers from
35mm-sized (and priced) equipment is a direction I think the
industry has to admit is real progress.

But the technology is new, thus there is still room for a
transitional product using legacy lenses -- which is why I don't
rule out Minolta introducing something this year. If they don't,
however, I suspect they may never.
OK and what are the reasons that first digital camera with the
Foveon X3 is a digital camera with a 3:2 format using Sigma 35mm
lenses. It could flop just because its Sigma for that matter but
Foven and 35mm are two different issues. 3:4 format is closer to
8x10 (or 6x4.5 from Bronica, Mamiya 220 format). But that's just
the current video format. What about the influence of 9:16 HDTV
when HDTV DVD's become available.
It's not clear to me what's going to happen.
MartyB
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  • Dr. G.
E-10 FAQ: http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/e10faq.html
 
them and all other manufactuers. I truly believe the 35mm legacy standard is going to die out with respect to digital, and soon if new sensor technology delivers as promised.
I see so if they don't come out with a camera that takes 35mm this
year in your opinion, all their future cameras will take smaller
lenses.
MartyB
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