A big question?

Hi guys,I'm an happy owner of a kodak dx7590, but I'm close to buy a new camera with more performance.

I was impressive by the FZ7, but last night I read the FZ8 reviews and it seems to be a great camera for me.
Can anyone help to decide if it can right to decide for a FZ8?

I be a little disappointed for the image quality using iso 400 and more (as I read in the review).

I like to take many nightshot but I'm scared that with FZ8 the quality it will not be so great cause noise!!!

In case Iso 400+ its to noisy, even without using raw, with ISO 100 or 200, using a tripod the image quality of a nightshot it will be good?
I accept any kind of suggestion!!!
Thank you so much.
Alex

You don't have to use 200-400 ISO for night time photography.

I took some night pics at all ISOs with my FZ5.

80-100 pics are really good and 200-400 pics are usable after denoising, with proper exposure.

Imagenomic Noiseware cleans noise easily and efficiently.

And FZ8 doesn't seem better than FZ7 for noise.

If you want a Panasonic, you should pick FZ7, IMHO.

1. As stated above you do not need to use iso 400 for night photography.
2. I would want the FZ8's RAW capability so I would get the FZ8.

3. As stated in numerous other threads, there are small other improvements so once again, I'd pick the FZ8

assuming your night photography entails tripod & long exposures...
Panys do a dark-frame cancellation for every exposure of 1 second or longer...

Which means for every shot of 1 second or longer, a dark-frame exposure of equal duration is taken right after the normal shot... And there's no way to get around it, it's automatic...This can reduce noise & hot pixels or at least I think that's why Pany threw it in there.... I'm not aware of other brands doing it but I've not checked them thoroughly neither..

It also means it takes twice as long to shoot a shot, that's 1 seconf or longer.... A 30 second exposure takes a full minute to complete.... I have to admit, it seems to work...

I do no NR to my shots & although I use an Fz30, I'll hazard the Fz8 won't be to dissimilar to it, in this regard, assuming the Fz 8 also retains the dark-frame cancellation feature:



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I'm a newbie here.. so, when DO you have to use a higher ISO.

Does night photography not constitute enough low-light condition to force you to up the ISO ?

As I stated in another thread, I was checking out night photography shot with the FZ7 and 30 on Flickr, and most of them were shot at ISO 80 or 100.

So what situations would force me to up the ISO.... indoor dark shots ?

musteng said:

You don't have to use 200-400 ISO for night time photography.

I took some night pics at all ISOs with my FZ5.

80-100 pics are really good and 200-400 pics are usable after
denoising, with proper exposure.

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If you are taking shots of a landscape and nothing is moving, you can use a tripod and a very low shutter speed. Since you can gather more light with the low shutter speed you can then keep the ISO low.

If you have moving objects like cars with headlights and tail lights it will give you the "trail of light" effect.

If you want to stop motion then you need to increase the shutter speed. If you increase shutter and have the lens wide open the only thing left to do is to increase the ISO to get more light.

So, a lot of the night shots you must be admiring don't have a lot of movement to be shot at 8/100 or the movement adds to the effect of the shot.

Hope this helps

Highway6 said:

Does night photography not constitute enough low-light condition to
force you to up the ISO ?
As I stated in another thread, I was checking out night photography
shot with the FZ7 and 30 on Flickr, and most of them were shot at
ISO 80 or 100.

So what situations would force me to up the ISO.... indoor dark
shots ?

musteng said:

You don't have to use 200-400 ISO for night time photography.

I took some night pics at all ISOs with my FZ5.

80-100 pics are really good and 200-400 pics are usable after
denoising, with proper exposure.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

That kodak was one of the cameras that I really did get to try, When the FZ20 came out I think....If you were happy with the way it performs in low light you should love any FZ......While it did not have lots of noise it was totally because of NR and the lack or detail that causes. Perhaps I did not give it enough of a chance but I felt is was far behind the FZ10 as far as IQ was concerned.
Not to mention how slow it was.
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