For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology. Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
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From what I can see ,the images are noise free and no artifacts from interpolation. A real true color image that is sure to revolutionize the industry. No doubt this technology will be included in the next generation of all manufacturers cameras.Hard to believe that Sony,etc is not onto it.The money to be made will come from the consumer/prosumer end. JD
For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at
least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with
Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it
will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good
by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology.
Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
K
knucklehead
Guest
Looks pretty amazing.
This just changes the picture of what's to come completely. Hopefully it wili become available in a range of cameras relatively quickly.
It does seem to make a holding pattern on camera purchases seem like the only sensable choice.
I
This just changes the picture of what's to come completely. Hopefully it wili become available in a range of cameras relatively quickly.
It does seem to make a holding pattern on camera purchases seem like the only sensable choice.
I
Diane Diederich
Well-known member
I think I may hold off on my E20 purchase...
--Diane39For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at
least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with
Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it
will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good
by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology.
Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
Max61919
Leading Member
Give it a year. That should shake out any technical problems and/or production problems. If it does live up to its hype, you can be sure it will be showing up in consumer priced cams real quickly. I just hope the cost of the sensor itself isnt so high that it makes $1000 + - cams impossible.
Max
Max
--Max http://www.pbase.com/maxxxam--For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at
least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with
Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it
will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good
by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology.
Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
Diane39
DomDP
Senior Member
I would agree, give it a year and then we should start to see it in consumer cams.
just hope the mfg. design it into a affordable cam. There is no reason they can not, but will they?--DomDP-NJC-2100UZPbase Supporter http://www.pbase.com/domdp 'The quality of your life is determined by how you feel at any given moment. How you feel is determined by how you interpret what is happening around you, not by the events themselves.' --Brian Tracy--
just hope the mfg. design it into a affordable cam. There is no reason they can not, but will they?--DomDP-NJC-2100UZPbase Supporter http://www.pbase.com/domdp 'The quality of your life is determined by how you feel at any given moment. How you feel is determined by how you interpret what is happening around you, not by the events themselves.' --Brian Tracy--
T
Terry Thorn
Guest
What an ingenious idea... make a sensor which works very much like film. This sounds like something that'll blow the lid off of digital photography. Let's hope it's hype lives up to reality. Im adopting the wait-and-see.For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at
least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with
Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it
will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good
by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology.
Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
s k u l p t
Senior Member
That's one of the main things I've been waiting for in a digital camera. Little noise. Digital hasn't arrived yet in terms of noise problems, at least on the lower end of the scale. Looks like there will finally be a dynamic range that doesn't include ugly noise to get detail. I'm not too confident that this technology will be released on a consumer camera for quite a while though. I'd expect more like 2 years before it becomes cheap enough to produce for a cheaper consumer camera.
Now, if they could only have a cam that runs for a few weeks without needing a battery recharge, we;d be getting closer to what I want. ; )
B A H
Now, if they could only have a cam that runs for a few weeks without needing a battery recharge, we;d be getting closer to what I want. ; )
B A H
-- http://www.pbase.com/gdguidehttp://adigitaldreamer.com/portfolio/For now at least. Don't be in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Or at
least check out the News forum and look at the new Sigma with
Foveon X3 technology.It appears it is here Now! And very soon it
will be less than it's $3,000.00 intro price. Good bye film, good
by 707, D7, D1X? Very interesting indeed, this new technology.
Check out the samples that Phil has posted . Unbelievable! JD
I looked everywhere I could to find out what ISO was used for sample shots and none was mentioned.
So how high can the ISO be pushed with this technology and still be relatively noise free? The specs mentioned on the sigma camera that it maybe pushed to iso 1600. It'd sure be nice to have a camera that went from iso 50 to iso 3000+ and have little or no noise. Imagine what one could do with lighting. You'd no longer need super high power flashes and lights to get amazing effects.
So how high can the ISO be pushed with this technology and still be relatively noise free? The specs mentioned on the sigma camera that it maybe pushed to iso 1600. It'd sure be nice to have a camera that went from iso 50 to iso 3000+ and have little or no noise. Imagine what one could do with lighting. You'd no longer need super high power flashes and lights to get amazing effects.
From what I can see ,the images are noise free and no artifacts
from interpolation. A real true color image that is sure to
revolutionize the industry. No doubt this technology will be
included in the next generation of all manufacturers cameras.Hard
to believe that Sony,etc is not onto it.The money to be made will
come from the consumer/prosumer end. JD
Actually this development shouldn't come as such a surprise as it has long been known that the CMOS sensor had definite advantages (albeit undeveloped) over the limitations of the CCD array sensors that are common in most consumer models. Doesn't the Nikon D1 series use a CMOS sensor?
Strange though that many of the older el cheapos as such as RCA P+S digitals and a few others also used cmos sensors .The CCD array type just got developed faster/cheaper for the consumer models .
Looking back now in retrospect , it's little wonder why the Sony707 cannot compare in clean image quality with the Nikon D1 series.
I can't wait to read about the PMA meet at the end of Feb. Surely a new direction regarding where digital is headed will be apparent. This might clear up a lot of questions from the discontinuation of so many cameras by different mfgrs to the quiet or almost non existant announcements of new models. Perhaps even the mfgrs got caught with their pants down by Sigma? JD
Strange though that many of the older el cheapos as such as RCA P+S digitals and a few others also used cmos sensors .The CCD array type just got developed faster/cheaper for the consumer models .
Looking back now in retrospect , it's little wonder why the Sony707 cannot compare in clean image quality with the Nikon D1 series.
I can't wait to read about the PMA meet at the end of Feb. Surely a new direction regarding where digital is headed will be apparent. This might clear up a lot of questions from the discontinuation of so many cameras by different mfgrs to the quiet or almost non existant announcements of new models. Perhaps even the mfgrs got caught with their pants down by Sigma? JD
So how high can the ISO be pushed with this technology and still be
relatively noise free? The specs mentioned on the sigma camera
that it maybe pushed to iso 1600. It'd sure be nice to have a
camera that went from iso 50 to iso 3000+ and have little or no
noise. Imagine what one could do with lighting. You'd no longer
need super high power flashes and lights to get amazing effects.
From what I can see ,the images are noise free and no artifacts
from interpolation. A real true color image that is sure to
revolutionize the industry. No doubt this technology will be
included in the next generation of all manufacturers cameras.Hard
to believe that Sony,etc is not onto it.The money to be made will
come from the consumer/prosumer end. JD
The D30 has a CMOS the D1 and the 1D both have CCDs.
Actually this development shouldn't come as such a surprise as it
has long been known that the CMOS sensor had definite advantages
(albeit undeveloped) over the limitations of the CCD array sensors
that are common in most consumer models. Doesn't the Nikon D1
series use a CMOS sensor?
Strange though that many of the older el cheapos as such as RCA P+S
digitals and a few others also used cmos sensors .The CCD array
type just got developed faster/cheaper for the consumer models .
Looking back now in retrospect , it's little wonder why the
Sony707 cannot compare in clean image quality with the Nikon D1
series.
I can't wait to read about the PMA meet at the end of Feb. Surely a
new direction regarding where digital is headed will be apparent.
This might clear up a lot of questions from the discontinuation of
so many cameras by different mfgrs to the quiet or almost non
existant announcements of new models. Perhaps even the mfgrs got
caught with their pants down by Sigma? JD
Brian wrote:
DaveKinneer
Leading Member
from Half.com?
I was one of the four who ordered one, but my order was cancelled. Haven't seen any one say they had received one, and was curious. If you did receive it, how is it?
--Dave
I was one of the four who ordered one, but my order was cancelled. Haven't seen any one say they had received one, and was curious. If you did receive it, how is it?
--Dave
Just yesterday Half.com emailed me that they are refunding my CC. charges . That company Expressbuys failed to respond from any communications from them or myself. I checked their website and it seems they stopped all activity/sales just a few days prior to the $325.00 postings on Half.Com. I suspect they went belly up.
Someone said earlier in that thread "If it sounds too good to be true, chances are it is.") Well that old addage certainly rang true this time.JD
Someone said earlier in that thread "If it sounds too good to be true, chances are it is.") Well that old addage certainly rang true this time.JD
from Half.com?
I was one of the four who ordered one, but my order was cancelled.
Haven't seen any one say they had received one, and was curious.
If you did receive it, how is it?
--
Dave
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