G7 initial impressions

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Almost by accident I have a G7. My S70 died and the store took it back.

Although the G7 has been more defined by what its not (G6+1)

its quite a camera. Using it now for a week its capabilities are beginning to show and the longer I have it the better it looks.

It reminds me of my S410 (on steroids), as once you get it running properly (settings, settings, settings) the output is stunning. It also has one of the best user interfaces I have ever seen on an electronic device. As a result the pictures are rarely deleted once taken.

The Noise profile was initially of concern to me. All Iso's do exhibit some noise but to me the noise looks a whole lot like the S410's noise, ie its there but a part of the picture. Its hard to describe but its almost like the smell of coffee in a barista, really a part of the package. Grain always taken for granted in film and great effects have been made with it in mind. I'll take the grain over the overly smooth(ed) Fuji anyday.

Another difficulty was the indication that there would be a lower DR and major blown highlights. IMHO the whole DR thing is a matter of very small degrees, ie will you get 5 stops of DR or 5.25, as there is never 7 or 8 stops in any real world camera. The S410, known for its DR, is a very tiny amount better than the G7. It handles blown highlights better (blown blue looks great in Cyan) and will produce a more useable "blown" image as a result. However, once tamed the G7 easily captures a signifiacnt DR. Probably why you dont see a lot of DR measuerments is that in a lab the differences are so small the results are pointless.

Also pointless is the 10mp sensor, but I wont give this one up easily. So far its images are great and they blow up so well on the monitor (and the attached widescreen LCD TV) at full size it gives me a whole lot of useful information and processing possibilities. Coupled with that is an ability to have a useable "digital zoom" and nore sensitive "pixels" when shooting at 6mps (and ISO 3200), the reason for 10mps is seen as a real asset. One thing to note is that the 10mp images dont seem any bigger than 7 or 8mp images, perhaps there is some processing (noted some detail smearing - digic III) or better compression , I dont know.

Hate loosing the Intervalometer, the remote, and RAW.

Love getting a ND filter, high ISO, custom colours, useable LCD (enough for manual focus),programable buttons, 2 custom settings, live histogram, exposure meter, radio dial, metal case, LI battery, neat adapter (Button release), quiet operation (mute), long zoom, Great glass and coatings (little flare), and the best thing of all the pictures are better than the S410, the S70, however they look almost "identical" as a Canon camera.

Altogether a very functional and useful camera. Pics to follow

Jm
 
A good G7 owners review, based on experience using it, not on specs, hearsay or frustrated expectations of prior G owners. Once you start making enlarged prints, you will find the noise to be a non-issue. Photos look great. And the live histogram makes not only for a high keeper rate; a photographer can avoid blown anything and achieve great, balanced exposures that belie talk of low dynamic range. I am satisfied with mine.
 
Thanks for the assessment. After much research, I have ordered the G7 and should have it in my hands by Thursday, so I am gratefull for the info.

You mention (as others have) that the settings greatly elevate the quality of the images produced. Could you elaborate on that? I know that some of the settings you speak of must be exposure and such for given environmental circumstances for a given shot, but whatever information I can get regarding any general or specific settings that will help get the most out of this camera is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Abana
 
Welcome to the party. You are finding out what many of us did: G7 is better than the reviews and you really have to use it to appreciate it.

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G7 * A610 * Olympus UZI
I want a Leica, but I'll settle for a G7:)
 
Like you I don't see the G7 as a G6+1, but as a A640 with IS plus quality construction. On reading posts here, it is even made in Japan, which we all know is a place of quality construction.

A very good review.
 
More than any other compact I've used, the G7 makes you work for you images, but in doing so it priduces some amazing pictures. It practically teases you to play with shitter speed, aperture, exposure compensation, metering patterns and framing until you've got it right. To be honest I think those looking for a camera to shoot snapshots with might be disappointed, but for someone looking for a creative tool it's the best I've found ourside of an SLR. Sorry for posting this again, but I think the image below helps explain what you can do with this fine tool.

 
Excellent review.

I, too, have unexpectedly become a G7 owner and I have been pleasantly surprised. Usually shooting exclusively in RAW I must say that this little camera is not only fun, but quite capable of excellent results. Love the functions, controls, ergonomics in addition to your above mentioned points.

I've only had it a few days, with not much time to become acquainted.

A few examples:

I never use digital zoom, but it's not all that bad:

http://www.pbase.com/goldens/image/73777318

Some fun with the ND feature:

http://www.pbase.com/goldens/image/73778338

Simple WA landscape:

http://www.pbase.com/goldens/image/73778676

-Patricia

1DMkII, 5D, 10D
A620, s70, G6, s400
 
Best of all, it comes with the hot shoe.

Invest in an external flash (with swivel and tilt), and that will give it so much more low-light capability.

Hund
 
More than any other compact I've used, the G7 makes you work for
you images, but in doing so it priduces some amazing pictures. It
practically teases you to play with shitter speed, aperture,
exposure compensation, metering patterns and framing until you've
got it right. To be honest I think those looking for a camera to
shoot snapshots with might be disappointed, but for someone looking
for a creative tool it's the best I've found ourside of an SLR.
Sorry for posting this again, but I think the image below helps
explain what you can do with this fine tool.
So is it fair to say that the G7 is not ideal for travellers that may need to take a picture very quickly (ie in auto mode point and shoot?) with no time to adjust the fast settings that this camera provides?
 
So is it fair to say that the G7 is not ideal for travellers that
may need to take a picture very quickly (ie in auto mode point and
shoot?) with no time to adjust the fast settings that this camera
provides?
Not really fair as you can use the P mode, dial -1/3 EV and go about your business of fast shooting, it won't make a worse picture than most P&S out there. But, you can play a lot with the many feature the G7 offer to be really creative.

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Stephan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanecurzi/
http://www.projetsurbain.com/photographie/
 
So is it fair to say that the G7 is not ideal for travellers that
may need to take a picture very quickly (ie in auto mode point and
shoot?) with no time to adjust the fast settings that this camera
provides?
Not really fair as you can use the P mode, dial -1/3 EV and go
about your business of fast shooting, it won't make a worse picture
than most P&S out there. But, you can play a lot with the many
feature the G7 offer to be really creative.

--
Stephan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanecurzi/
http://www.projetsurbain.com/photographie/
Hmm, sounds like a camera you can grow with. Perhaps intimidating to beginners like me (with its dials etc) but a camera that you can learn photography with.
 
Hmm, sounds like a camera you can grow with. Perhaps intimidating
to beginners like me (with its dials etc) but a camera that you can
learn photography with.
That's a good way of summing it up. You can definitely use it on P (or in the scene modes) and it will do the job fine. But as you learn more the camera is flexible enough to grow with you.
 
Very good pics. Where did you take it?

Best regards, swnw.
 
The Noise profile was initially of concern to me. All Iso's do
exhibit some noise but to me the noise looks a whole lot like the
S410's noise, ie its there but a part of the picture. Its hard to
describe but its almost like the smell of coffee in a barista,
really a part of the package. Grain always taken for granted in
film and great effects have been made with it in mind. I'll take
the grain over the overly smooth(ed) Fuji anyday.
You described it very well, G7 noise is like a specific structure of film photo - there is but nobody complain about that. For most people nowadays there are two main factors of very good photo: lack of noise and sharpness but I saw o lot of outstanding pics without one or two of these factors.

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Best regards, swnw.
 
As owner of S410 and now G7 I am a bit puzzled by comparision. S410 is nice but basic P&S with very little manual adjustments possible; on G7 you can change pretty much everything. i compared images and they are night and day. Nothing against S410, but G7 is quite different league.
 
mark finn wrote:
So is it fair to say that the G7 is not ideal for travellers that
may need to take a picture very quickly (ie in auto mode point and
shoot?) with no time to adjust the fast settings that this camera
provides?
The trick is to put ISO on auto and mode to "green" after you did any shooting -that allows you to turn the camera on and snap quickly without thinking if interesting subject suddenly comes up. As P&S with no adjustments G7 blows my S410 out of the water. Setting EV -1/3 and using P perhaps even better for majority of shots..
 
Not really a fair comparison, however since the s410 there has been a real difficulty in posters getting a better IQ from "upgraded" cameras, esp. right out of the box.

The 410 was a perfect balance between Sensor (large), lens (good), and ease of use that comparing any camera to it is a compliment.

Photoshop probably made millions when the mp wars began as the smaller sensors needed pp in order to get results that the 410 did naturally.

If you closely look at G7 bashing it sometimes shows through when posters want a 6mp G7!

Jm
 
I just used the G7 in a studio flash situation with a sync-cord connector which attached to the hot shoe. Worked perfectly, and the results (both prointed and on computer monitor) are excellent.

-dan
 

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