1D lacks electronic lcd viewfinder

Hi Jonathan,

I think your statement is valid.
SLR does not have to be like 1D.
I know it is technically very hard and Olympus already have this feature.

But it would be a perfect SLR camera if it shows the moment of shooting without sacrificing the quality of the optical viewfinder

Paul J.
 
Why D30 all of a sudden?

No one will deny that 1D would be perfect camera If it has electronic viewfinder that has same quality as optical viewfinder.

Too obvious requirement to ask but not obvious to achieve!

Paul J.
 
Hi Jonathan,

I think your statement is valid.
I think it was silly.
SLR does not have to be like 1D.
Well it would be nice not to have the banding, moire or dust issues. A tv out and a zoom review would also be good. More batterry life is always good. Otherwise the camera is the perfect SLR.
I know it is technically very hard and Olympus already have this
feature.
At the the cost of noisy images at ISO 80.
But it would be a perfect SLR camera if it shows the moment of
shooting without sacrificing the quality of the optical viewfinder

Paul J.
 
Are you a total idiot?
Why in the world did Canon not allow for an electronic viewfinder
in their camera? I use this feature all the time in my other
digital cameras. It is especially useful in shooting subjects from
an unusual angle. I was planning on buying a 1D because I love the
canon lens system but the lack of this feature is a deal breaker
for me. Does anyone else share my frustration? Is it possible for
Canon to introduce a firmware update to correct this lack of
functionality? Do I have to wait for another model to come out?
 
Ever look through an Oly E-10/20? My first thought when I picked one up in the store and looked through it was "UGH! How dim!"...

Here's how Oly can do what they do-

1. They use a beam splitter. Sounds good on paper. In reality, only about half the light gets to the viewfinder, the other half gets to the CCD. That's how the CCD can be constantly exposed while you see an image in the optical viewfinder. This results in two problems-

a) Dim viewfinder, as it gets much less light than it would if it was using a reflex mirror.

b) Slow ISO ratings on the sensor since it is only getting half the light it would get if it was using a reflex mirror (the reflex mirror will move out of the way upon exposure allow ALL the light to hit the sensor).

Now let's say that some Canon engineer starts smoking crack and decides that a new Canon SLR needs to come out with a beam splitter for live preview. One more sacrafice has to be made for that to happen:

2. Consumer cams with live preview use an interleaved CCD that is constantly discharging its output one row at a time. They have serial registers at every row between the pixels. This results in a constantly updated pixel, but also means that less of the CCD's total area is being used for actual light collecting. Wasted space.

With real SLR cameras, we have sensors that do not have these registers between each pixel. The sensor outputs the entire image at one time after exposure. This means the image cannot be updated live, but also means that much more of the sensor is doing what it should be doing: light collecting. With this arrangment, you can have larger photo cells which collect more light, which results in a larger sample of data to process, which results in a higher S/N ratio, which ultimately manifests itself as a cleaner image with more dynamic range.

Give all that up to be able to use my LCD as a viewfinder or have some crappy EVF screen in my viewfinder? Sorry Charlie. If it happens, I'd seriously suspect someone at Canon bumped his head a little too hard.

Joe
Hi Jonathan,

I think your statement is valid.
SLR does not have to be like 1D.
I know it is technically very hard and Olympus already have this
feature.
But it would be a perfect SLR camera if it shows the moment of
shooting without sacrificing the quality of the optical viewfinder

Paul J.
 
I asked a simialr question a couple of weeks ago.

It was a bad idea then and is still one.

The optical viewfinder works fine and suffers from none of the LCD problems encountered (battery drain, inaccurate color representation, stuck pixels, etc).

If it ain't broke.....
 
Bet he wants MP3 playback and MPEG movie clip mode too.
How about a built in PDA ^ ^

Hi ho hi ho! a trolling we will go
Why in the world did Canon not allow for an electronic viewfinder
in their camera? I use this feature all the time in my other
digital cameras. It is especially useful in shooting subjects from
an unusual angle. I was planning on buying a 1D because I love the
canon lens system but the lack of this feature is a deal breaker
for me. Does anyone else share my frustration? Is it possible for
Canon to introduce a firmware update to correct this lack of
functionality? Do I have to wait for another model to come out?
--Valliesto
 
Hi Paul, the 1D does cover 100% of the frame (it must because Canon says so in their literature :)

It has everything to do with the poor quality of electronic viewfinders whether they are on a $5,000 cam corder or a still camera. Of course, some day they may improve the technology but then someday pigs may fly. Meanwhile I want to take pictures.

Roger
The 1D captures exactly what I see.
What a lie?
This is not true as you can't see exactly the view when the shutter
opens.
It is true only if optical view finder covers 100% of the frame.
It is nothing to do with electronic/optical view finder.
If electronic view finder technology develops more it is not
impossible to have almost same as optical view finder.

Paul J.
 
Hi Roger,
Only The size of what you see is what you get with 1D - I meant.
The actuall image is not - Timing and the exposure.
Timing and exposure are more important than framing in photograph.

Paul J.
It has everything to do with the poor quality of electronic
viewfinders whether they are on a $5,000 cam corder or a still
camera. Of course, some day they may improve the technology but
then someday pigs may fly. Meanwhile I want to take pictures.

Roger
The 1D captures exactly what I see.
What a lie?
This is not true as you can't see exactly the view when the shutter
opens.
It is true only if optical view finder covers 100% of the frame.
It is nothing to do with electronic/optical view finder.
If electronic view finder technology develops more it is not
impossible to have almost same as optical view finder.

Paul J.
 

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