E330 DR (img), also an example for Ray

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OK, I've had the E330 for a day, here's what I think:

Getting the shot, minus Live View:

This is an E500 in a weird body, minus one button (focus point selection), and with an even dimmer finder.. That means it has excellent handling - you can use menus if you must, there is an excellent back screen setting system, and finally you can make changes with the camera to your eye by touching a button and spinning the wheel. Touching the shutter button confirms (as does the OK button). The last of these has, inexplicably, been removed from the E400. Of course it takes E series lenses, the mid reange of which are the best sanely priced lenses available, and form a comprehensive range.

That's it for the good new - otherwise the camera lags slightly behind the competition in all performance areas. It has very accurate focus, but is slightly slow and gives up a bit earlier than most as the light falls. Low light is a bug bear anyway because it has slightly more noise (in RAW - in JPG it apparently has a brutal and not terribly effective compulsory NR engine, but I didn't test that). 3 or 4 RAW shots fill the buffer (Although card writing is quick - I shoot bracketed RAW and only the slightest pause between sets with a fast card is enough). The viewfinder is, as mentioned, dim, though a reasonable size (an upside is you can read the display quite well in sunlight). There's no IS of any shape or form (except possibly the expensive and poorly matched Leica zoom).

Without LV, it would be hard to recommend this camera, not because it is bad or will ruin your shots, but because the competition all have one or more slight edges.

Shotting WITH LiveVIew, now, that's the raison d'etre. Anyone who can't use LV to get some clever shots is either an umiginative fool or has some very specialist requirements. It isn't a flawed implementation, as some people have unwisely said, with the latest firmware upgrade that lets you focus and expose in mode B, it is quite brilliant. So far, on just two trips, it has saved my bacon three time (see samples).

On Friday night, shooting in Tavira, I came across an unsightly little church with mostly closed doors, with a glowing interior contrasting. There was a cleaner there, looking hostile (probably the door should have been shut). I grabbed a shot with LV - as soon as I raised the camera to use the OVF (which is of course better), she slammed the door. No LV, no shot.

Walking to the car, I noticed a pleasing gold reflection under a bridge arch. I shot it, but there was too much railing. Holding the camera over the water, the result was skewed. Only after I'd walked on did I remember I had an LV camera. Dashed back, hit mode B, switched on the grid lines, held the camera out over the water, bosh. Sadly the light had gone, so I kicked myself. LV works, but you have to remember you have it!

Got up at six to go to Praia Da Rocha for the dawn light. Early morning and I are strangers, so it wasn't until I was halfway to my destination I remembered I was wearing the wrong trousers (dressing in the dark, I had put on the suit trousers from the night before) and taken the wrong car (the all leather bourgemobile, from which sand and seawater are banned, also no boots, filters or tripod). So how do you do clever, low level beach shots without splashing through water and lying on the sand? Why - LiveView, that's how. If Beau Brummel had had this camera, he'd have been remembered as the first landscaper, as opposed to being the over-dressed fop who said of the Prince Of Wales "And who is your fat friend?"

Part two follows:

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And on to IQ.

Generally, I hold that any modern dSLR produces perfectly good IQ until you start taking the Michael with DR, which is, of course, exactly what I like to do. I was a bit worried - that lovely Oly look comes with Kodak CCDs, and here we have a camera with a Panasonic NMOS. I have always had the faint feeling that non CCD shots lack a certain something, but the E330 is fine. Pictures are punchy and pleasing, tones are neutral, and DR seems excellent.

Samples follow. These aren't intended to show you the camera at its best, but what you can get away with. The first is my snatched church doorway shot. There is some camera shake there (IS would have helped), but I like the shot, and without LV I wouldn't have got it.

The second is a severe test of DR. I forgot my graduated ND filters, so this shot has SIX STOPS of DR artificially added. The sky is underexposed by trhee shots, the ground over exposed by three shots. The only maked clipping is the sun (reasonably enough) and the rock detail is acceptable. This was shot from the waist with LV (no sandy trousers).

So, my conclusion:

If you want a cheapish camera, LV will gain you far more shots than the slightly trailing performance will lose you. Buy one, right now. No other sensibly priced camera comes close.

If you are looking for an ultimate camera, the game changes. Shooting sports with this as opposed to a D2X will drive you nuts, as will shooting in poor light next to even a 5D. 7.5MP is hardly a surplus either. Probably this camera would make a n ultimate second body to go with your UberCam. Trouble is, Oly don't MAKE an UberCam. Let's hope the E3 comes soon and is good - because a good E3 and an E330 would be the ultimate combo.

Samples next post, when I've uploaded 'em.

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7.5MP is hardly a surplus either.
Louis, have you ever developed a 7.5MP RAW at the next bigger step?

I developed some of my 8MP shots from E-300 at 12MP and, while I didn't print them, I can not really tell the difference on screen with pixel peeping. Besides, a photo should be a bit (over)sharpened before printing, no?

BTW, I usually develop to 16-bit TIFF or PSD.
 
And on to IQ.
Excellent review, Louis! It's good to get reading material like this from reliable sources like the people whose track record you know from their day-to-day shooting. It sounds like the 330 is not the camera for me, but it seems it was a great move for Olympus to differentiate in the increasingly difficult and competitive DSLR market and show some real innovation that can actually be shown at a point of sale (contrary to for example the dust buster and the quality of their lenses).

Cheers!

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This first shot has been boosted by three stops in each direction. Detail and tone have more or less survived, there was no absurd noise to clean up, and frankly if RSP allowed more than a three stop adjustment I'd have taken more. Any softness is down to needing more DoF.

The second shot is snatched with LV, and any softness is down to the light (lack of). As soon as I lifted the camera to my eye, that snotty cleaner kicked the door shut. An unsightly notice has been cloned from the door.

Original of the rock shot, available at all sizes, here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acam/364405964/





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. . . a really good photgrapher man. I love your landscapes, but even when you "try your hand" at candid and street work it coms out great, muber two is akeeper.

P.S. did you think about making two exposures and blending them, so the inside of the churhc looks a little sharper/brighter?
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The rock shot, as shot, had a washed out sky and dark foreground. It really needed stacked GND filters, which I didn't have. To rescue it:

1) Use RAW to create a sesnsibly punchy shot ignoring the blown and dark areas. Export to CS2 as the base.

2) Use raw to expose for the sky. Export to CS2. Copy the image and paste onto the original shot, which will create a new layer. Call it SKY. Switch on Quick Mask. Pick the gradient tool. Draw a gradient from the middle of the sky to the middle of the sea. This will mark the sky pink, fading out to the middle of the sea. Switch off Quick Mask and press delete. Your sky exposure will now blend into the original.

3) Use raw ro expose for the rock. Repeat the above procedure, going form the top of the rock to the middle of the sea.

You now have an image with six stops of DR added, equivalent to a six stop GND filter.

4) Take the light shot and paste on top again. Call it rock. Switch on QM and paint INSIDE the rock on the left (do not stray OUTSIDE or you will get a ghostly glow). Switch off QM and delete. The rock on the left will now have detail, but it will be horribly obvious. Reduce the layer opacity until you still have some detail without an unnatural look.

5) Flatten the image, adjust, sharpen, done.

Cheers,

Louis
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Just a thanks for this really fine thread and photos. As a brand new 330 user I appreciate them. I just finished three days of indoor event shooting and found the live view absolutely invaluable, particularly since I use some manual lenses and needed to hold the camera well over my head in several situations. As a former (somewhat happy) 300 user, the increase in exposure accuracy, the improved white balance and the ability to use 800 and higher ISO just seals the (Amazon-Adorama) deal. Given my most modest needs and a long line of Oly cameras, and now, glass, I have had little reason to do comparative shopping. I do wish the lcd truly swiveled, and, oddly, I do not like the little latch in the battery holder, but otherwise a worthwhile 'upgrade'.
 
I regularly print to A2, for which the E500 (and hence E330) is fine.

However, as I said, if you are producing work commercially you are increasingly asked either specifically for 12MP+ or 42MP TIFF at which point there is an alarming amount of upsizing to be done.

Further, if you crop 8MP heavily (as I did for that moon shot the other week) then you end up with an image that is not really printable.

I'll take as many MP as I can get, and, if I dump LV, I can have a lot more than 7.5.
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Lou,

I have had the E330 (replacement for the E300) since it was released and I agree with most of what you said. It is certainly not my "ultimate" camera, but will do till then.

Agree wholeheartedly about the low light AF and the general speed of the AF BUT (and this is after using an E1 and the E300), Oly has always lagged behind in both of these categories - at least IMHO compared to C & N. One of the major frustrations (actually the ONLY major frustration) I have had with the Oly DSLRs. (I love their handling and the quality of the pictures I get out of the camera.)
Nice write up.
Steve
 
"Generally, I hold that any modern dSLR produces perfectly good IQ until you start taking the Michael with DR..."

Could you translate that sentence for me, please? I really have no idea what it means (seriously).

I have the E-500 and the E-330 and think they are great cameras! However, unlike you, I'm not comparing them to the D2X or the 5D. It would be more fair to compare them to something in their price range. There is a new Nikon in their price range -- no LV, though, of course!
 
It means that image quality differences between cameras are small unless you are abusing the digital negative.

I though the article made my view clear, but just in case: unless you have specialised needs AND a huge budget the E330 is the best picture taking machine available. If you DO have specialised needs AND a huge budget there are cameras that may suit better. The reason being LiveView, which for MOST people is more useful than 12MP, or high frame rates, or low noise.

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I think one aspect that many overlook is the fact that the LCD menu system is so similar between E500, E400 and E330 (yes there are variations) that having one as a backup / 2nd cam to another makes perfect sense.

I was using my E1 today alongside the E330 and it was not second nature to get used to the E1 controls again. It was bitingly cold standing on an exposed ridge in high winds using a tripod, and while the E330 LCD could be tilted and used at the higher magnification, no such luck of course with the E1 and in all honesty the small LCD and menu was a pain to see ....
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I have the E400 as well as E1 and E330, and would agree that the E330 is the best picture taking Oly cam out there, if only for its LV features and absence of any other "issues" (such as plagued the E300)

As for resolution, the E400 beats my S3 for cleaner images. I use Noiseware with ISO 1600 the E400 v straight S3 JPG's and the E400 images are far superior, showing up the Fuji in-camera Noise Control for what it is.

How much better the 10mp of the E400 v the 7.3 mp of the E330 is remains to be seen, but I imagine it isn't much!

The real beauty of the E400 is in the simplicity of its controls and its low weight, combined with the very high image quality. As a travel / lightweight bit of kit it can't have many equals.

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Thanks very much Louis. The rock pool photo works a treat with the DR extended. And it is not too noticeable that it has been done. Many of the examples I have seen have a real artificial, flat look to them. It can be interesting, but it can also be difficult to 'read' as a photo.

If you had some time, I would love to see this photo, at this resolution and size, but with just a single image (layer?) made from the RAW file. So it is a one pass image. Then we could see just how much different it makes the shot.

I know you are busy, so if you don't have time. I understand. But it would be good to se it.

Thanks again for the effort.

Ray Kinnane
Saga-shi, Japan
 

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