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I just don't understand these dpreview forums when it comes to the release of new cameras. I saw the same thing in the nikon forum with the D80. People who already had D70s, D50s, only talking about D80's. How big will it be? Will the buttons stick? What will it smell like? In the end they all take the same images, only a little larger.

I guess I just don't understand the huge excitement of a new camera release. If you can't take amazing images with the S3, then you won't with the S5. I can understand the real world benefit for upgrading, for me it would be the improved auto focus. I will probably upgrade to one in late 2007 or 2008 when the prices drop and bugs get worked out. Until then I plan on enjoying the S3 and hopefully seeing some current shots and posts related to cameras available now on here.

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I thoroughly agree with you.

I plan on keeping my S3 until it develops a fault that cannot be economically repaired. At that point, I shall consider the available models that have been on the market for at least 12 months, so that their prices are sensible. From those, I shall choose the one that best fits my needs. If I can find a Fuji or a Nikon that does so, I would go that way so as to keep my Nikon fit lenses. Otherwise, I'd go Canon or Olympus. I have no brand loyalty at all!

My S3 produces images that satisfy me. If I want to bring about a great improvement, I shall address my technique rather than my camera body.

I may even work up a post of some more S3 images in the next week or two!
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I also agree 100%. I love my S3. Sure I would love to have the S5, but it pleases me to know that as far as IQ goes, we won't be one step behind as they use the same sensor. I had the opportunity to try the the D70s, D200, D80, Canon 30D for at least two weeks each, and in the end, I own the S3. Sure may be a little slower in taking picture versus the others, but at the end of the day, I feel I own one of the best camera's available.

Marco.
 
--Camera buffs like to discuss cameras. Photographers like to take pictures. Nothing wrong with either.

When i was into air-cooled VWs I noticed some guys liked to talk about theem and some liked to drive them. Guess its the same here.

If I could afford new cameras I might be more interested. As it is I'm required to dig a little deeper into myself and into the capabiliteis of the old S-2 as well.

I do a lot of thinking about the purchase of another body because I feel that I will be stuck if I damage my current. I look at 2-3 yr old versions of Nikon and Fuji (happy with present lenses (nearly)). What I find id over priced D-70s, D-80s, D-100s, D-200s and S-3s. The best dollar for dollar buy at present seems to be yet another S-2 which KEH has an abundance of in the $450=$600 range. Nothing to get excited about and nothing much to talk about at all but if I just need a camera to photograph with I know it will certainly do that. Have a nice day. Bob
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I do have a small amount of interest in what is coming out. But as I don't buy my kit new, I am really only interested from the perspective of someone who might buy very long term, and might benefit or suffer from falling prices short term. So I can't get as excited as some of the guys.

I am of course very interested in equipment, but prefer to work at getting the best from what I can afford to buy. Its amazing how everyone assumes new it better. It does not always follow.

Here's a case in point: I spent some time yesterday comparing a D100 to a D70. I have read so often on these forums that the D70 makes obsolete the D100. Yesterday's tests proved to me once and for all what rubbish this is. The D100 won easily on image quality! In particular the D100's flatter colours made it easier to get sharp puncy images, and instead of the D70s dreadful turquoise skies, the D100 produced silky cold blue skies (entirely appropriate in the UK for the time of year). For colour control, the old D100 always wins easily.

I can see why the punters made this mistake concerning the D70, because it did win once or twice when I stooped to pixel peeping. Look one to one, and you could convince yourself the D70 has better IQ. Stand back and look at the picture you have made, the D100 almost always wins. This confirms what I have thought ever since I bought the D100, but I had a lurking suspicion, with so many people saying the opposite, that I might be wrong. Its only when you test the kit that you start feeling certain of your ground. (Incidentally, I am not intending to post this on the Nikon forum. The tests were for me, and I have no interest in stirring up a hornets nest).

There is no point for me in upgrading my camera when I have not yet exhausted the possibilities of my Fuji S2 and my Nikon D100. The Fuji S2 is deceptive. It can seem to be very straightforward, with obvious limitations. After over two years of using the camera, I am nevertheless still learning to process the RAW files. And the images I produce are getting better and better. Its quite amazing to look at the jpegs I produced 6 months, 12 months, 18 months and 24 months ago. The IQ I can now get is so much better.

I probably don't need a new camera for a long time yet. I certainly do need more knowledge and constant upgrades to my technique.

S.
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If the S5 were not a D200 camera body, I doubt seriously I would have purchased one. The S3 is somewhat a mystery to me. I cannot take the great pics I see others here do. I cannot understand how to use SB-800's on the thing. I could not find a mountain of literature on the S3 to try to figure it out. I noticed a mountain of literature on the D200, and I knew the advantage of the i-TTL system inside this camera. So I sprang for the Nikon camera thinking that is where I belonged. I was then trying to use both cameras and learn to use two different systems, mastering none. Do you know how frustrating it is knowing the equipment is in your hands and not being able to even closely match any person frame for frame?

Last night I tried to post a picture as per Crystals invitation. I had some great opportunities. I had two pretty woman and two young girls (kids of a friend) in the studio. Nothing was working. The lights were too warm, the batteries were dead, the cards could not be read by the computer.

My S3 was working, but I cannot use that with my SB-800's.

So why am I so excited about this S5? Frankly, I am excited because now for the first time, I hope to have the camera of my dreams. One camera I can master and use the way I think is the right way.

I will also be in with friends here who have also ordered the same camera, and we can learn together (and they can teach me:)
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Well I'm sticking with my S3 for two reasons..

One is I'm only just beginning to see the amazing images materialise from the s3 and the Bigma and I'm ecstatic about the results in the surfing images even in the crappy english weather.

Two is.. I've been warned that The S5 will cost me a very precious pair of testicles by my Darling Wife lol

I'm sticking with what I've got till next year.. Enjoy your S5's

Mel

Oh PS I'm back online after a computer Burnout hence the little or no posts over christmas... great to be back :)

mel
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It's simple for me....I have had the S3 for almost 2yrs. (you can debate over whether or not I produce good images with it lol!) I think it prudent for the work I do to have at least 2 cameras at the ready for every shoot. The S5 will have my 85 on it and my S3 will have my 30. No more switching a lens during the shoot...and if one dies on me, I have the other to back me up...I just hope I am as happy with the S5 as I am with the S3.
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Hi,

I agree with your venting.

Let me just note, however, that you, too, have just been writing about this new camera, the S5. ;-)

Marco
 
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You are correctamundo re photog knowledge being more valuable
than the actual camera, but in the case of the S5, there is a huge
increase in available 21st century features. I have an S2 and an S3
and never hesitate to recommend them as incredible cameras, for
different reasons.

There was an improvements in features from S2 to S3, but with the S5,
Fuji has removed a major difficulty for those users and prospective users
of current Fuji S2/S3 bodies. The S5 may not show a worthwhile
increase in IQ, but will improve the WAY in which S5 users can create
or capture those images. For some, this is worth the entry-fee alone.
Try the amazing D200 viewfinder, for instance, to get a feel for an
improved Fuji model.

If you look at the raft of enhancements, they make the only 6 MP
resolution much more bearable . . .

I believe that the S5 will be a limiited success in its field for Fuji, and
will cause other-maker users to also buy it as well. I am on the fence
re the value of the purchase, because $2000 is still a lot. The price will
drop towards the end of 2007, if you can stand the suspense :-)

( nice bikini site, BTW )

Keith

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well I skipped the S3 for precisely the same wavelength of thought. Improvements weren't attractive enough. I am a gearhead but I hope I am a prudent gearhead. The S5 is still not 100% attractive for me and I am still waddling between it and another camera. Sigh.

On that thought, I think a pro who is shooting lots of available light portraiture, highturnover wedding images would consider the S5 a tremendous help and for that reason I can understand why some might just be overjoyed and euphoric. A tool is meant to improve workflow not the end result. If you are a good photog, a better isn't going to make you better just a more relaxed one :-)

I shoot for money but not at a scale where I see my investment in the newest camera being returned fast and efficiently but that's only because I am too laid back in my business strategy!

my 2cts
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I bought an S2 when it came out and skipped the S3 as it didn't offer, for me, that great an advantage over the S2. That being said, the quality of images from the S3 posters here is excellent. Now that the S5 has gone just a step further in a number of ways, it makes a transition from the S2 to the S5 something I must consider. I will keep the S2 and use to obviate too much lens-changing.

Obviously, we all get new gear for different reasons, but I don't think that anyone here is going to regret acquiring an S5. I haven't ordered one yet; I'll wait to see some of the images that regular members of this forum post. That is the true test for me, how it performs in the hands of the end-user.
Roll on!
Dave Roberts
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