Tokina 10-17mm first impressions

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I went to the camera shop yesterday to 'just have a look' as super-wide zooms. Tip - if you are 'just looking', leave the plastic at home ;)

I had my eye on a 10-20mm Sigma to compliment the wide end my 17-55 DX. A lot of my shooting is of downhill mountain biking, bmx etc. At downhill events in the woods, all the action happens at really close quarters.

If you read the thread title, you'll guess that the shop didn't have it in stock and you'll know what's coming next! They did have the Tokina 10-17mm fisheye at a very reasonable price.

I fired off a few test shots and the build felt fantastic. Zoom ring is smooth and the focus snappy enough.

I've always been really intrigued by fisheye photopgraphy so decided to give it a go. I was, and still am, really in two minds about how much I'll use this and if I can justify the cost! However, since the Tokina is not a dedicated fisheye and looses most of the distortion as you zoom up to 17mm, I felt it was a lot more flexible for me.

One of my goals is to become more studied in my photopgraphy, picking subjects, visaulising shot and getting it right. To this end, a fisheye is a pretty brutal tool - without discipline, shots will look horrible! Certainlly not one for casual snaps or an effect to overdo.

Saying that, I fired off a couple of test shots without too much thought for composition or subject - I just popped out between rain showers...

D200 ~ 10-17 @ 10mm ~ ISO 100 ~ 1/80 ~ f6.3



D200 ~ 10-17 @ 10mm ~ ISO 100 ~ 1/80 ~ f6.3



Both had a surprising degree of chromatic abberation (purple fringes), which at first I was really shocked by. See below for full size crops:





Now the confession - both of the scenes above have been corrected for CA in photoshop. Here's the window again, once 'fixed' (it actually looks a bit green now)



Overall, I am quite happy. It's no doubt a decent lens that I need to adapty and grow into.

One concern is the CA. However, this is easily fixed in Photoshop so unless anyone can persuade me I have a lens with a quality issue and this is not typical, I'm on learning curve!

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I found one of mine at 17mm.

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I beg to differ with you. You loose very little based on my own tests against my 10.5 and my 16mm Nikkor, enough so that I can live with the small variation in quality. Either that or your copy of is not good or my copy is extremely nice.

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This is at 100%. I zoomed in to 250%. Obviously not nearly as sharp as a $1500, but no fringing on my example.

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I used the lens 'in anger' for the first time this weekend and think it worked for me. I like the effect and the flexiblity of the zoom was so much better than a fixed fisheye for what I was doing.

Shooting off camera flash (SB-600) on a tripod and manual focus. Focal length around 11mm if I recall.





I was using the onboard commander flash and the hardest bit was getting the SB600 to fire without being in shot - due to the super wide angles and line of sight needed for the flash sensor!

Comments welcomed!

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Thanks for posting these interesting samples! When I first read about this lens, I also thought that this could be a nice fish-to-super-wide zoom to add to my 17-55mm f2.8. However, as far as I have read from the specs and as far as I understand how fish-eyes work, the 17mm on the 17-55 are not equal to the 17mm on the 10-17mm Tokina.

If you read the specs, you will notice that the 10-17 has 100 degrees field of view at 17mm, whereas the 17-55mm has just 79 degrees at the wide end. The remaining 21 degrees probably come from the non-linear distortion on the Tokina which means that you don't get a fish-to-wide but just a fish-to-cropped-fish zoom. The distortions on the 17mm end are still very pronounced.

Still, I find the concept and the examples interesting, this lens may be a worthwile competitor against the Nikon 10.5mm.
 
I missed this thread and created another with an identical title:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=21937734

There is a review and some sample pics there, as well as a link to a larger gallery of fisheye pics taken with this lens.

I apologize for creating two threads. I thought of duplicating what I said there on this thread, but what good would that be?
 
Absolutely - good summary. I bought it in preferance to the Nikkor fisheye, and it was the zoom that swung me.

For my kind of shooting (see riding shot above) the zoom was very useful. It's definately a 'special' lens, although the ability to reduce the effect through zooming make it much more useable for me.

17mm is still quite distorted. When I get some time I'll update this thread with some shots showing how both ends compare.

I am impressed with the feel of the Tokina and may well also pick up a 12-24 to truly add to the ranfge of my 17-55. After I get the 70-200, that is!

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