More 400D grief

fotohayden said:

Hey there, Im also a kiwi, and work in a sth island camera store, i
havent personally seen the Auto mode underexposure, but i tend to
recommend to my customers who want auto performance, to use the P
mode in the creative zone of the dial, this gives auto performance,
with out the annoying Canon Auto mode hassles like the flash wants
to be used all the time....

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Good. So you don't tell them to use landscape mode for portrait shots?

AC1 said:

And to those of you who have been particlualry
suspiscious/critical/harsh/abusive, you can rest assured that if
you ever joined a sailing forum as a newcomer to the sport, you
would be certain to receive a much warmer welcome than I've
received here.

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Even if I got lost at sea and blamed it all on my sailboat and asked if I should have my boat repaired or upgrade to a larger one? Of course, I'd first make it clear there's nothing wrong with my skills as a sailor.

Collin85 said:

Getting a better lens won't necessarily solve his underexposure
problems.

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I'll bet ya it will!

secheese said:

Collin85 said:

Getting a better lens won't necessarily solve his underexposure
problems.

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I'll bet ya it will!

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I agree. I think he should buy a 5D, 24-105L, 16-35L, 70-200 2.8 IS L, and 300 2.8 IS L.

That'll solve all his problems and the kind, friendly folks in the 5D and Canon SLR lens forums will help if not.

Bambi Brown said:

Bambi Brown said:

And to those of you who have been particlualry
suspiscious/critical/harsh/abusive, you can rest assured that if
you ever joined a sailing forum as a newcomer to the sport, you
would be certain to receive a much warmer welcome than I've
received here.

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Even if I got lost at sea and blamed it all on my sailboat and
asked if I should have my boat repaired or upgrade to a larger one?
Of course, I'd first make it clear there's nothing wrong with my
skills as a sailor.

That's obviously NOT what I'm doing. I'm trying to use the camera as advised that I can do by various experienced camera users and indeed Canon's own user manual.

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If you came to a sailing forum having experienced problems with a marine product that you had used as advised (inc by the manufacturer) then yes, you would receive support and sympathy, even if you were a newcomer and didn't fully understand all the ins-and-outs of the situation.

Your trouble Bambi is that you are a full-blown camera 'rockstar' i.e. you believe that unless someone has a lifetime's experirence of SLRs they have no right even pick one up, let alone ask questions about whether the device works OK. I don't imagine that you've used a camera in Auto mode for years so it wouldn't bother you. But that's not the case for everyone. And if Canon put the function there and it works well on their other cameras, why the hiccup with the 400?

It's not as though as a novice I'm complaining that I can't get sexy results out of a 1Ds MkII or something! I'm talking about an entry-level DSLR which won't do what the book says it should do.

And yes that is a canopy in the pciture but it is only over the helmsman (way out of the picture standing to the rhs at the wheel). The two people in the picture shown were in the sun which, as I said before, was directly overhead.

Dave Oddie said:

Why people can't understand the 400D ought to match the P&S when
the 400D is used as a P&S (as it is designed for in these modes) I
don't really know. It is the same on all forums as well.

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Until now, I have been keeping pretty quiet on this topic, I also have been struggling to understand and tame the XTI's conservative metering as a new user but your question leaves me yearning for an answer.

I think many people on this forum are using the WRONG camera. I am refering to those who were quick to respond to the OP with "do some PP" or "read a book and shoot in M". The XTI was not intended to be a professional tool to be shot solely in M mode. If it were it would have no AUTO settings. So they come from the perspective of accomplished photographers who found a pretty good top of the line amateur camera and start dumping on the rest of us.

Well I have news for you, Canon has marketed this camera to people who prefer to shoot in the Auto modes at least sometimes. Then they condenscendingly decided to NOT allow EC in the Auto modes. Well if that's your choice then it better produce pictures ready to print in the Auto mode. That's not an unreasonable expectation.

The 2 pictures the OP showed are unacceptable, even in Landscape mode, even if the subjects were in full shadow. Those 2 pictures are UNDEREXPOSED!

Having said all that AC1, my advice is to stick with the 400d, get it fixed if Canon will do it and gradually learn how to shoot out of the Auto modes.

As for your picture above, I believe your 2 subjects were in the shadow of the canopy. There are no shadows under their chins and under the lady's glasses as in the P&S picture. Therefore the comparison with the P&S shot is unfair. They are still underexposed, just not as much as if they were in full sunlight.

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your point? same pointless drivel, im sure.
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odd thing, i agree with much of what you say, i just don't agree with how yo say it.
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is that you Daniella?
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Bambi Brown said:

Good. So you don't tell them to use landscape mode for portrait
shots?

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drivel, drivel, drivel

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