C2500L

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Any comments, pro or con? This camera has been around for about 2+ years and still the price is kinda high. The newer cameras seem to offer a lot more for the same price or less. Any comments?
Thanks jim
 
I have a friend who owns one. He likes it, but I think the
C-2100UZ is a better all purpose camera with its 10x zoom with
image stabilization.
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Juli
Actually, the 2500 has a number of the professional features found on the E-10, which are not found on the 2100. Things like a flash shoe and the fact that it accepts both CF and SM cards and two great macro modes.

I have two E-10s, a C-2500 and a C-2100 and a C-2020. For my money, the C-2100 has one outstanding feature: the zoom.

If you're into zoom (as I am) then it's the 2100. But the 2500 is still a wonderful camera. That's why I can't let mine go.--Dave
 
Thanks Dave...I do like the SM/CF feature and like you say the macros.....I'm getting into astrophotography, and just last night tested my new eyepieces with my 90MM scope. Only took earth shots (far far away) and i think I'm going to like this new venue. I got a lot of vignetting but will work that out as I get into it more. Funny tho, have to use macro ....Thanks again Dave....Jim
PS: with so many cameras, I take it you are a professional photographer....
I have a friend who owns one. He likes it, but I think the
C-2100UZ is a better all purpose camera with its 10x zoom with
image stabilization.
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Juli
Actually, the 2500 has a number of the professional features found
on the E-10, which are not found on the 2100. Things like a flash
shoe and the fact that it accepts both CF and SM cards and two
great macro modes.

I have two E-10s, a C-2500 and a C-2100 and a C-2020. For my
money, the C-2100 has one outstanding feature: the zoom.

If you're into zoom (as I am) then it's the 2100. But the 2500 is
still a wonderful camera. That's why I can't let mine go.
--
Dave
 
Don't forget the 2.5 megapixels of the 2500. I guess it's a preference thing but I prefer the color and contrast of the 2500. I find myself using it anytime the features (10X zoom-IS or high speed capture) of the UZi or RS are not needed.
Lance
 
DKinneer wrote:
Juli Valley wrote:
Things like a flash
shoe and the fact that it accepts both CF and SM cards and two
great macro modes.
I did not know this. What are the 2 modes? What is the closest it will focus?

Bob--www.pbase.com/mofongoIf you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten.
 
DKinneer wrote:
Juli Valley wrote:
Things like a flash
shoe and the fact that it accepts both CF and SM cards and two
great macro modes.
I did not know this. What are the 2 modes? What is the closest it
will focus?

Bob
Regular macro
within 1 to 2 feet.

Super macro
0.8 inches to 2 feet in wide angle
approx 1 to 2 feet in telephoto

It should also be mentioned that this camera is much faster than most. Almost no delay after you press the shutter.

And one drawback is that it does not permit you to shoot using the LCD monitor.
--Dave
 
Thanks Dave...I do like the SM/CF feature and like you say the
macros.....I'm getting into astrophotography, and just last night
tested my new eyepieces with my 90MM scope. Only took earth shots
(far far away) and i think I'm going to like this new venue. I got
a lot of vignetting but will work that out as I get into it more.
Funny tho, have to use macro ....Thanks again Dave....Jim
PS: with so many cameras, I take it you are a professional
photographer....
Hi Jimmy

I guess it takes more than an excess of cameras (and computers (4)) to make one a professional photographer. Maybe I could qualify as a serious amateur. Actually I am a somewhat retired lawyer and before that a retired Marine (22 years active service).

I do enjoy photography though. Especially since I discovered digital. For me it's the instant gratification. When I shot film it used to drive me crazy waiting for the prints to be ready (and wondering if I had set everything correctly).

I am invited to all the family reunions and other get-togethers. (My wife's parents recently celebrated their 61st anniversary) and with 11 grandchildren, there is always something to shoot.

I have an Epson 1270 printer which turns out very nice prints but more often I post the pics on the web or make a FlipAlbum CD with all the images for those who have computers.

I am also into genealogy, so I spend a lot of time at places like the National Archives, rustic old county court houses, and in cemeteries.

But my greatest love is shooting flowers. We have hundreds of iris, peonies and daylilies in the yard and when they are in bloom, I easily shoot a hundred a day -- every day! They make wonderful slide shows.

Here is an example. This is a daylily named Clarence Simon, which is one of my favorites. Taken on July 19th, last year.

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/19/F8/8507161-a5de-02000180-.jpg--Dave
 
Thanks Dave...I do like the SM/CF feature and like you say the
macros.....I'm getting into astrophotography, and just last night
tested my new eyepieces with my 90MM scope. Only took earth shots
(far far away) and i think I'm going to like this new venue. I got
a lot of vignetting but will work that out as I get into it more.
Funny tho, have to use macro ....Thanks again Dave....Jim
PS: with so many cameras, I take it you are a professional
photographer....
Hi Jimmy
I guess it takes more than an excess of cameras (and computers (4))
to make one a professional photographer. Maybe I could qualify as
a serious amateur. Actually I am a somewhat retired lawyer and
before that a retired Marine (22 years active service).

I do enjoy photography though. Especially since I discovered
digital. For me it's the instant gratification. When I shot film
it used to drive me crazy waiting for the prints to be ready (and
wondering if I had set everything correctly).

I am invited to all the family reunions and other get-togethers.
(My wife's parents recently celebrated their 61st anniversary) and
with 11 grandchildren, there is always something to shoot.

I have an Epson 1270 printer which turns out very nice prints but
more often I post the pics on the web or make a FlipAlbum CD with
all the images for those who have computers.

I am also into genealogy, so I spend a lot of time at places like
the National Archives, rustic old county court houses, and in
cemeteries.

But my greatest love is shooting flowers. We have hundreds of
iris, peonies and daylilies in the yard and when they are in bloom,
I easily shoot a hundred a day -- every day! They make wonderful
slide shows.

Here is an example. This is a daylily named Clarence Simon, which
is one of my favorites. Taken on July 19th, last year.



--
Dave
Thanks Dave

Very nice pix of Clarence Simon. Beautiful colors and contrast. Like you, flowers and animals/birds are a few of my favorites to photograph. I'm not a bird-watcher however but do enjoy a good photoop when I see one. Having a hummingbird feeder, I usually get a few good ones of those little loveable creatures. I will be purchasing a spotting scope shortly and hopefully get some long distance photos. thanks for the reply and to all of you that replied I appreciate it. I'm very new to this forum, and I believe I'll be looking in quite frequently.
Regards, Jim

PS: When the weather permits, I'll be taking some shots of the moon and hope to post them here. Great hobby.
 
Actually, the 2500 has a number of the professional features found
on the E-10, which are not found on the 2100. Things like a flash
shoe and the fact that it accepts both CF and SM cards and two
great macro modes.

I have two E-10s, a C-2500 and a C-2100 and a C-2020. For my
money, the C-2100 has one outstanding feature: the zoom.

If you're into zoom (as I am) then it's the 2100. But the 2500 is
still a wonderful camera. That's why I can't let mine go.
--
Dave
How about viefinder ? Is it usual grainy EVF or classical SLR one ?
 
I loved my 2500L, but I love my 2100 more. Comparing the two big difference is that pics from 2500L look 'harsher', and suffer more from noise. Apart from obvious zoom/IS differences, metering is not matrix-type in the 2500L which suffers badly from blown-out highlights compared with newrer Oly cameras with iESP. I found myself often spot-metering highlights with the 2500L and then applying 1/2 stop or so exposure compensation.

Hope this helps,

Adrian
 
Any comments, pro or con? This camera has been around for about 2+
years and still the price is kinda high. The newer cameras seem to
offer a lot more for the same price or less. Any comments?
Thanks jim
I bought mine for $550 (origianal price around $1,500) including shipping and feel that it was the right price. Like all cameras, the C2500L has positives and negatives.

Positives:

In many ways a "baby E" series camera. It shares dual medium (compact flas is great), SLR lens, and the same color algorithyms.

When the shot is on, the color has a liquid quality to it that I find only in the E series (E-100).

Hot shoe on the camera for the FL-40.

classic SLR viewfinder -- it is wounderfuly bright.

Light, nice feel.

very good macro capability especially with the SLR viewfinder.

"Negatives"

NOT a point a shoot camera -- you can easily get out of focus pictures. The focus is only over all contrast or spot. The advice is to use spot focus but then you have to think and act accordingly.

ONLY TWO apetures. I end up shooting in apeture mode and set the apeture at the smallest one.

can be noisey but I haven't found this to be a problem -- alot like grain in analog film.

The aspect ratio is not 4x3 so you have different processing algorithyms for the c2500L.

Over all -- at $550 it is worth the money. It is a camera to supplement your point and shoot and should be used for your "thoughtful" shots.

Give yourself time to learn the camera and effective methods for dealing with its "shortcommings"--Jay S. http://www.carr-siegel.net
 
Any comments, pro or con? This camera has been around for about 2+
years and still the price is kinda high. The newer cameras seem to
offer a lot more for the same price or less. Any comments?
Thanks jim
Thanks Jay...I'm not complaining about the 2500, I think it's a great camera and will hold onto it but after having it for as long as I have, I was just wondering if it isn't time to upgrade. This was one of many pixs that I shot at the macy's 2001 T'giving Day parade.
http://www.pbase.com/image/1082786
I bought mine for $550 (origianal price around $1,500) including
shipping and feel that it was the right price. Like all cameras,
the C2500L has positives and negatives.

Positives:

In many ways a "baby E" series camera. It shares dual medium
(compact flas is great), SLR lens, and the same color algorithyms.

When the shot is on, the color has a liquid quality to it that I
find only in the E series (E-100).

Hot shoe on the camera for the FL-40.

classic SLR viewfinder -- it is wounderfuly bright.

Light, nice feel.

very good macro capability especially with the SLR viewfinder.

"Negatives"

NOT a point a shoot camera -- you can easily get out of focus
pictures. The focus is only over all contrast or spot. The advice
is to use spot focus but then you have to think and act accordingly.

ONLY TWO apetures. I end up shooting in apeture mode and set the
apeture at the smallest one.

can be noisey but I haven't found this to be a problem -- alot like
grain in analog film.

The aspect ratio is not 4x3 so you have different processing
algorithyms for the c2500L.

Over all -- at $550 it is worth the money. It is a camera to
supplement your point and shoot and should be used for your
"thoughtful" shots.

Give yourself time to learn the camera and effective methods for
dealing with its "shortcommings"
--
Jay S.
http://www.carr-siegel.net
 
Thanks Jay...I'm not complaining about the 2500, I think it's a
great camera and will hold onto it but after having it for as long
as I have, I was just wondering if it isn't time to upgrade. This
was one of many pixs that I shot at the macy's 2001 T'giving Day
parade.
http://www.pbase.com/image/1082786
nice pictures. They illustrate the nice color balance of the 2500l. Upgrading is always a difficult issue. I'm a believer in buying "last year's great camera" at a low price. The E-100RS's are selling at a very attractive price and would compliment the 2500L. The prices of the E-10 are coming down.

Since you have a nice camera it pays to just hold on and wait for the next wave of cameras to drive down the price of the current "top-o-the-heap" cameras.--Jay S. http://www.carr-siegel.net
 

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