Is buying a K10D over a Nikon D80 worth it in terms of the built in image stabilization? If it works, every lense I put on it will be stabilized (effectively) so that will obviously save a lot of money (not having to buy IS lenses). I just wonder if it's worth the compromise: get the Pentax and get the IS but sacrifice the superior builld quality, image quality, and grip feel of the D80...not to mention the reputability of a Nikon....
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K10D image stabilization, worth it?
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Yes. Exactly why I chose the K10 over the D80.
LOL. Thats funny - superior build quality? Have you handled a K10? The D80 is the one that feels cheaper. IQ? I dont like overexposure problems (both copies of the D80 I tested overexposed) and the watercolory NR at high ISO. Grip? Both grip nice - that is a personal preference. Nikon is reputable and owns a large share of the market but Pentax is just as reputable (if not more) theyre just a smaller company.
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Sinan
karen clanin
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me thinks you came to the wrong list to slam the K10D! give me pentax ANY day over your other considered brand. you most likely won't be happy having to make so many "compromises" ?
there are a number of SR tests on the list if you do the search.
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karen
there are a number of SR tests on the list if you do the search.
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karen
MikeAusA200
Senior Member
Try out an Image stabilised camera - I will never buy another camera that does not have it. I can get up to 5.5 stops of improvement - 1/6 sec at 200mm actual (300mmm full-frame equiv).
If you get the D80 (as I was thinking of) you will need to buy all VR lenses . . . or use a tripod, when the Pentax shooter next to you has taken the shot handheld while you're still assembling the tripod.
Ignore Phil's SR test result - Pentax state clearly it will not work as well at close-up distances.
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Mike Sydney Australia
If you get the D80 (as I was thinking of) you will need to buy all VR lenses . . . or use a tripod, when the Pentax shooter next to you has taken the shot handheld while you're still assembling the tripod.
Ignore Phil's SR test result - Pentax state clearly it will not work as well at close-up distances.
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Mike Sydney Australia
Build quality is no better, neither is image quality (same sensor) and "grip feel" is completely subjective ( I prefer the Pentax, but liked the Canon 350D best of all, for what it's worth).
You like Nikon, buy one. The D80 is a good camera too, and you obviously want a Nikon. Yes, the SR is worth it, as is the weather sealing, but that doesn't matter since your heart is set on a different brand.
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R Valentino
Senior Member
As mentioned you have the superior attribute assigned to the wrong camera.
image quality is a wash in RAW
personal I guess, but I found the grip on the K10 to best I've used.
You do have access to more lenses and more 3rd party support and a known upgrade path.
If you have no immediate need for long fast zoom lenses then the K10 is a great deal.
This coming from a 30D owner. I actually liked the K10 better than the 30D, I just couldn't get one that worked for me and I wanted those fast zoom lenses I mentioned.
Gene
karen clanin
Senior Member
Sinan , consider yourself "high 5'd"!
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karen
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karen
The part of my post about the Nikon being "better" was actually bait...I was really trying to see if people think the Pentax is a better camera. Simple psychology, works every time. I'm really leaning towards the Pentax. just not sure if there are as many lenses made for it as opposed to a Canon or Nikon.
737guy...I don't get it. He can't be an actual adult airline pilot. I refuse to believe that someone entrusted with such a responsibility would behave in such an immature fashion. (Sorry, I actually do believe that's possible.) His OP was typical trolling, pure and simple. "Let's see if I can find a plausible way to stick my head in here and tell you guys that your camera is a piece of cr*p while making it look like I'm actually asking a question." He must be an airplane afficianado with a soft spot for Boeing...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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tombell1
Senior Member
Sounds like the Nikon is a better bet for you!!!!!
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Tom Bell
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Tom Bell
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Steven
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I keep hearing the Nikon and Sony has the same sensor. I read different. Heres a quote right from Phils review.
"10 megapixel APS-C CCD
We fully expected and Pentax delivered, ten million pixels for their new flagship digital SLR was an absolute (marketing) requirement. Interestingly this CCD has slightly different specifications than the Sony unit used in a few other ten megapixel digital SLR's so we can't be sure of its origins. It's 23.5 x 15.7 mm with 10.75 million total pixels, 2-channel read-out. "
Looks different to me and all the good photos I seen from the K10D look superior.
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Steve
davemdsn
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So, you were playing with people just because you could? That's a strategy for making friends I hadn't tried before.
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David
Remember, the light at the end of the tunnel could be another train.
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David Martin
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Who said the build quality of the Nikon's was superior?
I am not about to knock other brands, but such a sweeping generalisation invites rebuttal, or at least examination.
They certainly build solid-feeling cameras - but that does not necessairy signify durability.
In fact, problems with rubber grips detatching are well documented, as is everything from problems with other AF points than the central one in the D2x to colour drift in the D2H.
Perhaps a degree of circumspection is advisable before making such declamatory statements.
This is not to knock Nikon cameras - but do not imagine that they are problem-free, and if you want to make claims essentially that the build and so forth of the Nikon is superior, please expect to be asked to substantiate that in detail.
Regards,
DaveMart
'Just a wildebeest on the plain of life'
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I am not about to knock other brands, but such a sweeping generalisation invites rebuttal, or at least examination.
They certainly build solid-feeling cameras - but that does not necessairy signify durability.
In fact, problems with rubber grips detatching are well documented, as is everything from problems with other AF points than the central one in the D2x to colour drift in the D2H.
Perhaps a degree of circumspection is advisable before making such declamatory statements.
This is not to knock Nikon cameras - but do not imagine that they are problem-free, and if you want to make claims essentially that the build and so forth of the Nikon is superior, please expect to be asked to substantiate that in detail.
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Regards,
DaveMart
'Just a wildebeest on the plain of life'
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It's the same sensor. Any sensor design, not just this one, is actually a family of circuit variations. The sensor area design is the same, but then the exact size, manufacturing tolerances, readout circuitry and other support circuitry is offered in various versions at different pricepoints and volumes. It's the same with any complex IC design.
I agree that there is an image difference in RAW, but that is not the sensor itself. Pentax seems to have struck a better balance between noise level and detail than Nikon (whose images tend to look a bit smeared out at high detail). The difference is not enough to make any meaningful difference in actual use, of course; we're solidly in pixel-peeping territory here.
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Sounds like a good way to wear out your welcome before even arriving. Do take the Nikon.
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mutleybird
Senior Member
Its good to be rich. Especially if you want that stuff only to do kid photos.
We know already. The K10D wasn't good enough. The 30D focuses better and faster and everything. You posted this 1000 times.
Actually I found the 30D interface to be sucky and more of a deterrent to good photography to any misconception of autofocus ability or lack of knowledge on how to use it effectively. The photos are more plasticky than the K10D's results. The build quality is even lower than the D80 Nikon.
Saying there is no difference in build quality between the D80 & K10 is just not true. The construction, solidity, (not to mention cost) required to IMPLEMENT weather sealing along with stainless steel chassis account for being able to simple feel that the K10D is a tight, better quality machine than the D80.
Larry
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David Martin
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.. then you realy have done no research at all.
If you want the largest number of modern lenses, try Canon.
Inother respects you are freely admitting to baiting in your wording, in other words trolling, and are really not worth while for anyone to bother with.
My initial reply was for the benefit of someone who I took to be sincere, if rather ill-informed and immature, but now your post is ranked in the category it deserves.
Regards,
DaveMart
'Just a wildebeest on the plain of life'
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If you want the largest number of modern lenses, try Canon.
Inother respects you are freely admitting to baiting in your wording, in other words trolling, and are really not worth while for anyone to bother with.
My initial reply was for the benefit of someone who I took to be sincere, if rather ill-informed and immature, but now your post is ranked in the category it deserves.
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Regards,
DaveMart
'Just a wildebeest on the plain of life'
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Steven
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really WANT the Nikon system. Bite the bullet and pay 4 times the money - and skip the stabilized primes zooms like the LTD series.
For myself I went with Pentax and my favorite lens is the 77 LTD f1.8 zoom; overall Iam delighted with Pentax.
But you will always pine after Nikon if you get Pentax...
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bill wilson
For myself I went with Pentax and my favorite lens is the 77 LTD f1.8 zoom; overall Iam delighted with Pentax.
But you will always pine after Nikon if you get Pentax...
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bill wilson
Go buy a D80 and troll elsewhere, thanks.
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