Minolta 1,7 and ADI Vs TTL

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Hi all,

it seems that the ALpha doesn't work so well with this lens and ADI.

Could it be that ADI only works with newer lenses (the ones measuring the distance)?
Comments are welcome.
Thanks,
Bernd
 
it seems that the ALpha doesn't work so well with this lens and ADI.
Could it be that ADI only works with newer lenses (the ones
measuring the distance)?
ADI only works with D lenses. I don't think that 50mm f/1.7 was made as a D lens, but even if it was the majority of them will not be. Mine certainly isn't.

A quick, crude check... how many contacts does it have on the lens bayonet mount? If it has only 5 then it will not be a D lens, and will not work with ADI metering.

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Tom
 
I ran tests on ADi vs TTL and could tell no diff. Many think ADI is a marketing ploy.
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Best regards

Eric USA
 
I ran tests on ADi vs TTL and could tell no diff. Many think ADI is
a marketing ploy.
I have to agree. I have never been able to tell any difference either. In theory ADI should be better in 'difficult to meter' situations - very light or dark or reflective subjects etc. I have never ran any tests on it, but in general use I have never noted it to be any better.

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Tom
 
Should we set the camera to either ADI or TTL as we change lenses or is there one or the other than can be the default and never touched?

It seems I read that TTL is the preferred default, but I'm no longer sure. Any logical suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I ran tests on ADi vs TTL and could tell no diff. Many think ADI is
a marketing ploy.
I have to agree. I have never been able to tell any difference
either. In theory ADI should be better in 'difficult to meter'
situations - very light or dark or reflective subjects etc. I have
never ran any tests on it, but in general use I have never noted it
to be any better.
Actually, I take that back. Promted by this thread I have just pointed my camera at an object behind glass, such that the reflaction of the flash would be in shot. ADI got the exposure about right. TTL underexposed as it over compensated for the reflection of the flash. It does work.

In real life situations I have never noticed a difference, but if you are using flash in difficult situations it may be worth a try.

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Tom
 
Should we set the camera to either ADI or TTL as we change lenses
or is there one or the other than can be the default and never
touched?

It seems I read that TTL is the preferred default, but I'm no
longer sure. Any logical suggestions would be appreciated.
If you use any sort of light modifier on your flash (e.g., a diffuser) you do not want to use ADI, as the camera has no way to know that you are altering the effective output of the flash. ADI only works with the flash aimed straight ahead at the subject when mounted on the camera. In theory, you should not see much difference with most subjects. It is intended to compensate for unusual circumstances that could affect the flash metering, such as a highly reflective surface (e.g., shooting with a mirror behind the subject the reflects the flash back towards the camera). ADI is not the primary flash metering method, even when on, but rather is a supplement to the TTL flash metering to help compensate for unusual situations. ADI is automatically disabled if you use the flash in bounce mode, or off the camera.

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Mark Van Bergh
 
Should we set the camera to either ADI or TTL as we change lenses
or is there one or the other than can be the default and never
touched?

It seems I read that TTL is the preferred default, but I'm no
longer sure. Any logical suggestions would be appreciated.
I believe that it will default to TTL if ADI is selected in the menu, but a non-ADI lens is attached. I also think that I read somewhere that it will do the same if an external flash is set to wireless or bounce (both of which will not work with ADI), but I could be wrong about that.

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Tom
 
Well, thanks for all the input.

I have also tried shooting with ADI and TTL, same subject, and totally different outcome: with ADI a brightly light scene, with TTL totally undexposed, that's all with the Minolta 1,7.
Will try with other lenses.
Bernd
 
thanks!
 
No - it was with a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 lens. I didn't do it with the 50 f/1.7 as it is non ADI, so I assumed that it would make no difference.

I don't have it to hand at the moment but if time allows I will try it with the 50 f/1.7 later.

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Tom
 
A number of sources (I think based on Friedman's book) say that the camera will automatically select TTL when a non D lens is mounted - this is not the case. ADI definately makes a difference.
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Peter
 

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