My first Digit cam 3040z or C-700

Gene Miller said:

Daniella said:

Terry Thorn said:

Yes, you were talking about a camera or more precisely "comparing"
cameras again. You thought I was talking about the 2100's LCD so
you decided to "compare" it to the C700's LCD. Since you referred
to a review you often discount as being inaccurate, I wondered why
you would do this and asked you so. Instead of answering as you did
later, you blew up. If I hadn't asked, Dwight1973 would probably
have done it. The point is that you can't discuss cameras without
the lopsided comparisons. You don't see me always pointing out
advantages of the 2100 over the C700 without being asked. You do
that very often.

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So what if i did? i was still talking about a camera, all you had
to do was explain what you can see very clearly in sunlight with
your LCD on the c2100 and that you were talking about the c3040, no
need to resort to personal attack.

Gene Miller77510 said:

What proof could I have brought into your latest "comparison"?
Should I dig up a review or someone's opinion that the LCD on the
2100 was better?

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no simply tell me your opinion on the C2100 LCD instead of doing
those personal attack. geee i think that is easy to understand the
difference here.

What good would that do? You'd only discount it as

Gene Miller77510 said:

you discount any other negative remarks about the C700. I didn't
say you were lying, hiding, or misleading people. I asked you a
question... period.

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what was the question again? sorry because i thought you saying:

"so you agree with Phil's review and use it to back yourself up
when it says something POSITIVE. You only seem to disagree with the
NEGATIVE findings and urge people to disgregard them."

was first, not a question, second was like saying i am using the
information i want in order to mislead people.

You can read whatever you want into that.

If its not what you meant then please explain what you meant by this?

again, i was talking about a camera and you are saying things about
me.

Gene Miller77510 said:

That's grand. Are you trying to say that's the way ALL C700's
perform? Phil's C700 didn't perform as well as yours, obviously,
and he reported what he saw and provided evidence. You discounted
it. It seems to me you're calling Phil a liar. I've seen others
report excessive CA, hot pixels, and noise too. Do you "discount"
them as well?

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no i am simply comparing my observations with other observation and
then i comment on them according to my observation. I do know that
some people had problem with hot pixels and after a firmware
upgrade that fixed it. I also never called Phill a liar! where is
that coming from???

I simply said that he did not take the time to adjust the camera
correctly or he had a defective camera, again to my opinion.

I never said he was a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gene Miller77510 said:

But you HAVE done that to me. Don't you remember?

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Again i have only after being pushed to the limit of my patiente.
I did ignore your post for couple of weeks but after being bashed
over and over and you did never stop..i was tired of it and angry,
what's your excuse?

Before if i remember correctly, you started your personal attack on
my long before i did any personal comment on you.

I even tried ignoring you forever..and if it would not have been
for TIM i would probably still do and will probably do that from
now on..i see there is just no point.

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Terry Thorn said:

Gene Miller said:

I think Phil's review of the C-700 was totally misleading and not
accurate. The same goes for the reviews of the C-700 on CNET and
TVTech. The last two sites shouldn't even review digicams. They
never take them out of the AUTO mode.They don't know what they're
doing. At least Phil knows what he's doing. I bought the C-700 and
I am very happy with it. I do think you keep misunderstanding
Daniella. Once she said that XP was crappy and I answered her, not
with a personal attack, but with my knowledge of the subject and
she answered back intelligently. If she gets hot, understand she is
communicating not in her native lanuage. I don't find her attacking
unless she feels insulted. Now maybe you and your wife feels she
hasn't been attacked, but she does. Give her some slack and
communicate with her. You're both intelligent people and both have
a love for photography and the digital cameras. Great, let's stay
with that. I apprieciate the opinions of you and your wifes and
Dainella. I think most of us do. I think the bickering is amusing
but not necessary, but that too is all of your choices. I consider
it entertainment. Have fun.

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Hi Gene, you popped in just as I expected you would. The thread was
on it's own to die and you just couldn't stand it, could you. Yeah,
you want to see this stop so much you had to start it up again?
There's two other people who are bound to jump in any time now to
"defend" Daniella. You say that Daniella has NEVER bashed. Of
course, she never bashed YOUR camera since you also have a C700.
And buddy, I never got my wife to do anything and I greatly resent
your personal attack. I merely asked Daniella, which somebody else
was poised to do, why she picked over reviews like she does. If
it's bad about the 2100, it's true. If it's bad about the C700,
it's not. You pretty much echo the same sentiments as she does. In
another thread, instead of letting it DIE, Daniella HAD to start it
up again. She couldn't let my wife's opinion go unanswered. Like I
said before, Daniella will address EACH person with the SAME
"opinion" over and over again rather than just state her opinion
and let it go. It's She even had to take ANOTHER jab at the 2100 by
"comparing" the cases of the C700 and 2100. WHY? What's the point
of all this "comparing"? Does it make you feel better about YOUR
camera? So, ALL these sites totally misrepresented the C700 and you
and Daniella are here to set the story straight??? Give me a break.

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Terry Thorn said:

Mr. Miller,
This is Karen Thorn. What do you think I am? Do you think I'm a
puppet and that I have no opinions of my own? I'm here to tell you
that I'm not and I think you have a real problem. I was closely
reading this forum for at least a week before I made my first post.
I've also followed the discussions between Terry and Daniella by
reading over his shoulder during some of these debates.
Unfortunately my first post caused a problem because I mentioned
the 2100. That was so sad that I couldn't ask a simple question
without starting a ruckus. Daniella has shown that she will not
accept any opinion but her own. I have told her that I prefer a
larger camera over a smaller one but yet she keeps at me for some
reason. Now she wants to know how much I weigh! That could be
construed as a personal attack. I saw where she told Terry that
only cameras should be discussed. I am not a camera or at least I
wasn't the last time I looked. I guess she feels like she will
eventually convince me that I really do like smaller cameras after
all and I'll give up my 2100. The day I do that will be the day
Hell freezes over the seond time.

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Daniella said:

Just your comment about you have such small hands that if samller
they would not exist..well i guess mine does not exist because i am
pretty sure, judging by your photo, that i have smaller hands than
you do.

anyway, like i said, size is relative and what may seam big for me
might seam small for you or vice versa.

Most people find the c700 easy to handle and ergonomic. some
people prefer small one and some prefer big one.

I don't refute nor refuse your opinion either, obviously for you
the bigger camera works better and i love your photos, they are
very beautiful so obviously this is the camera for you.

as for your involment in this "chicane" between me and your
husbands..just makes me smile

Terry Thorn said:

Mr. Miller,
This is Karen Thorn. What do you think I am? Do you think I'm a
puppet and that I have no opinions of my own? I'm here to tell you
that I'm not and I think you have a real problem. I was closely
reading this forum for at least a week before I made my first post.
I've also followed the discussions between Terry and Daniella by
reading over his shoulder during some of these debates.
Unfortunately my first post caused a problem because I mentioned
the 2100. That was so sad that I couldn't ask a simple question
without starting a ruckus. Daniella has shown that she will not
accept any opinion but her own. I have told her that I prefer a
larger camera over a smaller one but yet she keeps at me for some
reason. Now she wants to know how much I weigh! That could be
construed as a personal attack. I saw where she told Terry that
only cameras should be discussed. I am not a camera or at least I
wasn't the last time I looked. I guess she feels like she will
eventually convince me that I really do like smaller cameras after
all and I'll give up my 2100. The day I do that will be the day
Hell freezes over the seond time.

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Gene Miller said:

Are getting excited about the new digicams that may be annouced at
the PMA show the end of February?

Daniella said:

Just your comment about you have such small hands that if samller
they would not exist..well i guess mine does not exist because i am
pretty sure, judging by your photo, that i have smaller hands than
you do.

anyway, like i said, size is relative and what may seam big for me
might seam small for you or vice versa.

Most people find the c700 easy to handle and ergonomic. some
people prefer small one and some prefer big one.

I don't refute nor refuse your opinion either, obviously for you
the bigger camera works better and i love your photos, they are
very beautiful so obviously this is the camera for you.

as for your involment in this "chicane" between me and your
husbands..just makes me smile

Terry Thorn said:

Mr. Miller,
This is Karen Thorn. What do you think I am? Do you think I'm a
puppet and that I have no opinions of my own? I'm here to tell you
that I'm not and I think you have a real problem. I was closely
reading this forum for at least a week before I made my first post.
I've also followed the discussions between Terry and Daniella by
reading over his shoulder during some of these debates.
Unfortunately my first post caused a problem because I mentioned
the 2100. That was so sad that I couldn't ask a simple question
without starting a ruckus. Daniella has shown that she will not
accept any opinion but her own. I have told her that I prefer a
larger camera over a smaller one but yet she keeps at me for some
reason. Now she wants to know how much I weigh! That could be
construed as a personal attack. I saw where she told Terry that
only cameras should be discussed. I am not a camera or at least I
wasn't the last time I looked. I guess she feels like she will
eventually convince me that I really do like smaller cameras after
all and I'll give up my 2100. The day I do that will be the day
Hell freezes over the seond time.

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Gene Miller said:

Daniella, there are people on this site that agree with you. I am
one of those and I have found that he has attacked you and not just
your opinion. I don't know why he does it and can't remember and
that he gets his wife to help battle. I wonder if she has read all
his postings? I just wanted you to know that I value your opinion.
Have fun and try not to get upset.

Daniella wrote:

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Gene Miller said:

Terry Thorn said:

Gene Miller said:

I think Phil's review of the C-700 was totally misleading and not
accurate. The same goes for the reviews of the C-700 on CNET and
TVTech. The last two sites shouldn't even review digicams. They
never take them out of the AUTO mode.They don't know what they're
doing. At least Phil knows what he's doing. I bought the C-700 and
I am very happy with it. I do think you keep misunderstanding
Daniella. Once she said that XP was crappy and I answered her, not
with a personal attack, but with my knowledge of the subject and
she answered back intelligently. If she gets hot, understand she is
communicating not in her native lanuage. I don't find her attacking
unless she feels insulted. Now maybe you and your wife feels she
hasn't been attacked, but she does. Give her some slack and
communicate with her. You're both intelligent people and both have
a love for photography and the digital cameras. Great, let's stay
with that. I apprieciate the opinions of you and your wifes and
Dainella. I think most of us do. I think the bickering is amusing
but not necessary, but that too is all of your choices. I consider
it entertainment. Have fun.

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Hi Gene, you popped in just as I expected you would. The thread was
on it's own to die and you just couldn't stand it, could you. Yeah,
you want to see this stop so much you had to start it up again?
There's two other people who are bound to jump in any time now to
"defend" Daniella. You say that Daniella has NEVER bashed. Of
course, she never bashed YOUR camera since you also have a C700.
And buddy, I never got my wife to do anything and I greatly resent
your personal attack. I merely asked Daniella, which somebody else
was poised to do, why she picked over reviews like she does. If
it's bad about the 2100, it's true. If it's bad about the C700,
it's not. You pretty much echo the same sentiments as she does. In
another thread, instead of letting it DIE, Daniella HAD to start it
up again. She couldn't let my wife's opinion go unanswered. Like I
said before, Daniella will address EACH person with the SAME
"opinion" over and over again rather than just state her opinion
and let it go. It's She even had to take ANOTHER jab at the 2100 by
"comparing" the cases of the C700 and 2100. WHY? What's the point
of all this "comparing"? Does it make you feel better about YOUR
camera? So, ALL these sites totally misrepresented the C700 and you
and Daniella are here to set the story straight??? Give me a break.

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Juli Valley said:

I'm exhausted just watching the bout.
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21oo, B-3oo
3o4o
Juli

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Terry Thorn said:

I am insulted that you would suggest that Terry would try something
as underhanded as using me in his battles. Would you be insulted
if someone implyed that Daniella got you to help her in her
battles. He has had personal attacks made on his being by
Daniella. Maybe she needs further study in English to truly
understand the subtle nuiances of the language. Since she seems to
be frequently offended by how something is written. He has never
had anyone complain about his posts but her except as a difference
of opinion. And as for as what got her mad in the posts, there are
many things in her posts that really get to me but I don't just
haul off and jump down her throat. I have tried to give her the
benefit of the doubt, but she makes it almost impossible. I will
continue to read and post on this forum and I will probably make
her mad from time to time. I don't think that she will be worth my
time for an answer. And further more he never told you what to do
and you are calling him blind to what people have written? Where
did that come from?

Karen

Gene Miller said:

Terry Thorn said:

Gene Miller said:

I think Phil's review of the C-700 was totally misleading and not
accurate. The same goes for the reviews of the C-700 on CNET and
TVTech. The last two sites shouldn't even review digicams. They
never take them out of the AUTO mode.They don't know what they're
doing. At least Phil knows what he's doing. I bought the C-700 and
I am very happy with it. I do think you keep misunderstanding
Daniella. Once she said that XP was crappy and I answered her, not
with a personal attack, but with my knowledge of the subject and
she answered back intelligently. If she gets hot, understand she is
communicating not in her native lanuage. I don't find her attacking
unless she feels insulted. Now maybe you and your wife feels she
hasn't been attacked, but she does. Give her some slack and
communicate with her. You're both intelligent people and both have
a love for photography and the digital cameras. Great, let's stay
with that. I apprieciate the opinions of you and your wifes and
Dainella. I think most of us do. I think the bickering is amusing
but not necessary, but that too is all of your choices. I consider
it entertainment. Have fun.

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Hi Gene, you popped in just as I expected you would. The thread was
on it's own to die and you just couldn't stand it, could you. Yeah,
you want to see this stop so much you had to start it up again?
There's two other people who are bound to jump in any time now to
"defend" Daniella. You say that Daniella has NEVER bashed. Of
course, she never bashed YOUR camera since you also have a C700.
And buddy, I never got my wife to do anything and I greatly resent
your personal attack. I merely asked Daniella, which somebody else
was poised to do, why she picked over reviews like she does. If
it's bad about the 2100, it's true. If it's bad about the C700,
it's not. You pretty much echo the same sentiments as she does. In
another thread, instead of letting it DIE, Daniella HAD to start it
up again. She couldn't let my wife's opinion go unanswered. Like I
said before, Daniella will address EACH person with the SAME
"opinion" over and over again rather than just state her opinion
and let it go. It's She even had to take ANOTHER jab at the 2100 by
"comparing" the cases of the C700 and 2100. WHY? What's the point
of all this "comparing"? Does it make you feel better about YOUR
camera? So, ALL these sites totally misrepresented the C700 and you
and Daniella are here to set the story straight??? Give me a break.

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Daniella said:

Gene Miller said:

Are getting excited about the new digicams that may be annouced at
the PMA show the end of February?

Daniella said:

Just your comment about you have such small hands that if samller
they would not exist..well i guess mine does not exist because i am
pretty sure, judging by your photo, that i have smaller hands than
you do.

anyway, like i said, size is relative and what may seam big for me
might seam small for you or vice versa.

Most people find the c700 easy to handle and ergonomic. some
people prefer small one and some prefer big one.

I don't refute nor refuse your opinion either, obviously for you
the bigger camera works better and i love your photos, they are
very beautiful so obviously this is the camera for you.

as for your involment in this "chicane" between me and your
husbands..just makes me smile

Terry Thorn said:

Mr. Miller,
This is Karen Thorn. What do you think I am? Do you think I'm a
puppet and that I have no opinions of my own? I'm here to tell you
that I'm not and I think you have a real problem. I was closely
reading this forum for at least a week before I made my first post.
I've also followed the discussions between Terry and Daniella by
reading over his shoulder during some of these debates.
Unfortunately my first post caused a problem because I mentioned
the 2100. That was so sad that I couldn't ask a simple question
without starting a ruckus. Daniella has shown that she will not
accept any opinion but her own. I have told her that I prefer a
larger camera over a smaller one but yet she keeps at me for some
reason. Now she wants to know how much I weigh! That could be
construed as a personal attack. I saw where she told Terry that
only cameras should be discussed. I am not a camera or at least I
wasn't the last time I looked. I guess she feels like she will
eventually convince me that I really do like smaller cameras after
all and I'll give up my 2100. The day I do that will be the day
Hell freezes over the seond time.

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Terry Thorn said:

I am insulted that you would suggest that Terry would try something
as underhanded as using me in his battles. Would you be insulted
if someone implyed that Daniella got you to help her in her
battles. He has had personal attacks made on his being by
Daniella. Maybe she needs further study in English to truly
understand the subtle nuiances of the language. Since she seems to
be frequently offended by how something is written. He has never
had anyone complain about his posts but her except as a difference
of opinion. And as for as what got her mad in the posts, there are
many things in her posts that really get to me but I don't just
haul off and jump down her throat. I have tried to give her the
benefit of the doubt, but she makes it almost impossible. I will
continue to read and post on this forum and I will probably make
her mad from time to time. I don't think that she will be worth my
time for an answer. And further more he never told you what to do
and you are calling him blind to what people have written? Where
did that come from?

Karen

Gene Miller said:

Terry Thorn said:

Gene Miller said:

I think Phil's review of the C-700 was totally misleading and not
accurate. The same goes for the reviews of the C-700 on CNET and
TVTech. The last two sites shouldn't even review digicams. They
never take them out of the AUTO mode.They don't know what they're
doing. At least Phil knows what he's doing. I bought the C-700 and
I am very happy with it. I do think you keep misunderstanding
Daniella. Once she said that XP was crappy and I answered her, not
with a personal attack, but with my knowledge of the subject and
she answered back intelligently. If she gets hot, understand she is
communicating not in her native lanuage. I don't find her attacking
unless she feels insulted. Now maybe you and your wife feels she
hasn't been attacked, but she does. Give her some slack and
communicate with her. You're both intelligent people and both have
a love for photography and the digital cameras. Great, let's stay
with that. I apprieciate the opinions of you and your wifes and
Dainella. I think most of us do. I think the bickering is amusing
but not necessary, but that too is all of your choices. I consider
it entertainment. Have fun.

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Hi Gene, you popped in just as I expected you would. The thread was
on it's own to die and you just couldn't stand it, could you. Yeah,
you want to see this stop so much you had to start it up again?
There's two other people who are bound to jump in any time now to
"defend" Daniella. You say that Daniella has NEVER bashed. Of
course, she never bashed YOUR camera since you also have a C700.
And buddy, I never got my wife to do anything and I greatly resent
your personal attack. I merely asked Daniella, which somebody else
was poised to do, why she picked over reviews like she does. If
it's bad about the 2100, it's true. If it's bad about the C700,
it's not. You pretty much echo the same sentiments as she does. In
another thread, instead of letting it DIE, Daniella HAD to start it
up again. She couldn't let my wife's opinion go unanswered. Like I
said before, Daniella will address EACH person with the SAME
"opinion" over and over again rather than just state her opinion
and let it go. It's She even had to take ANOTHER jab at the 2100 by
"comparing" the cases of the C700 and 2100. WHY? What's the point
of all this "comparing"? Does it make you feel better about YOUR
camera? So, ALL these sites totally misrepresented the C700 and you
and Daniella are here to set the story straight??? Give me a break.

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Daniella said:

that come from the fact that many people said he was rude and they
did not appreciate personal attack. if you read back the forum
like you said you did, you would know. I only called him a moron
after weeks on constant personal attack...never before that. i
think i had enough. i tried ignoring his post again and
agian..nothing worked..when i reveived an email from some one
saying he was constantly attacking me personally and i should not
let that happends..i had enough..curiously though..it worked! is
that what it takes?

and yes you are blind if you don,t see that. but that is normal,
since you are his wife you are not impartial in this anyway.

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john D1 said:

Daniella said:

that come from the fact that many people said he was rude and they
did not appreciate personal attack. if you read back the forum
like you said you did, you would know. I only called him a moron
after weeks on constant personal attack...never before that. i
think i had enough. i tried ignoring his post again and
agian..nothing worked..when i reveived an email from some one
saying he was constantly attacking me personally and i should not
let that happends..i had enough..curiously though..it worked! is
that what it takes?

and yes you are blind if you don,t see that. but that is normal,
since you are his wife you are not impartial in this anyway.

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Daniella said:

well that,s your opinion..other people think differently...many
people have stated that he was rude..even received and email about
it.

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Daniella68313 said:

i do feel when he is saying i am misleading other or hiding things
it rude. I never was talking about people but only about a camera.
its not right to start saying bad things about a person because
that person is saying an opinion about a camera..but i am not
expecting you to understand that since you have been doing the same
thing anyway.

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Daniella68313 said:

if you are sick of reading this..just stop readiing it...nobody is
forcing you to read anything...

again, if you think i cannot reason in an intelligent manner..i
surely don,t understand your comment about my envy of the
c2100...no way! i don't want this camera even if someone would
give it to me, hope that is clear?

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Daniella68313 said:

i am not consumed by envy of anything because if i was, i would
simply had choosen that camera instead..how does your brain
function? i asked my psychology teacher about this comment..he
answered....beats me! )))

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Gene Miller said:

That is the photography show. This year it is in Florida, next year
here in Las Vegas. It will be when the companies annouce new
products, both film and digital and what if any will be
discontinued. There have been some talk about it on this web site.
Have fun.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

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Terry Thorn said:

Gee Daniella, do you think YOU'RE the only one who got email?

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Member said:

Wrong... you DID talk about me and anyone else who objects to your
bashing.

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Member said:

Member said:

if you are sick of reading this..just stop readiing it...nobody is
forcing you to read anything...

again, if you think i cannot reason in an intelligent manner..i
surely don,t understand your comment about my envy of the
c2100...no way! i don't want this camera even if someone would
give it to me, hope that is clear?

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I think it's pretty clear that you HATE it... AN OBJECT.

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Member said:

Member said:

i am not consumed by envy of anything because if i was, i would
simply had choosen that camera instead..how does your brain
function? i asked my psychology teacher about this comment..he
answered....beats me! )))

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Member said:

He BEAT you? Are you into that sort of thing? ;-)

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Daniella said:

that come from the fact that many people said he was rude and they
did not appreciate personal attack. if you read back the forum
like you said you did, you would know. I only called him a moron
after weeks on constant personal attack...never before that. i
think i had enough. i tried ignoring his post again and
agian..nothing worked..when i reveived an email from some one
saying he was constantly attacking me personally and i should not
let that happends..i had enough..curiously though..it worked! is
that what it takes?

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Daniella68313 said:

and yes you are blind if you don,t see that. but that is normal,
since you are his wife you are not impartial in this anyway.

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