How can I display post-processed JPGs on my F30?

Sorry if this topic has been covered before, but does anyone know of a way to display post-processed jpeg images on the camera LCD? Is there a program that can convert any jpeg to the camera's native format so it's fully recognized by the camera?

trale said:

Sorry if this topic has been covered before, but does anyone know
of a way to display post-processed jpeg images on the camera LCD?
Is there a program that can convert any jpeg to the camera's native
format so it's fully recognized by the camera?

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never heard of such program. all fuji user guides that i saw (3 of them) are warning about supporting only jpegs generated by the camera itself

Fuji warns against copying files onto the memory card from other sources besides the camera, very risky in my opinion in that you may not mess up your camera, but could very well destory your memory card. Just seems kind of foolish to me. If you want to show your friends your photos, then copy them onto cd. Taking a risk of messing up your camera and card seems not to smart to me, but then I have heard of others on this forum copying photos onto their memory cards, but I'm happy to follow what Fuji and Olympus says about their cameras and cards, why take a chance of if something were to happen, then Fuji saying, "You went against what we warned in the camera manual and card instructions, that cancels any warrenty on our part."
JD

trale said:

Sorry if this topic has been covered before, but does anyone know
of a way to display post-processed jpeg images on the camera LCD?
Is there a program that can convert any jpeg to the camera's native
format so it's fully recognized by the camera?

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As it's about the only reason I can think of - am I right in thinking that you ask this so that you could have the images in-camera just for showing easily to friends ? If that is so, and bearing in mind the cautions already written , have you given thought to such as a simple and not very expensive MP3-type (ipod type) small item. I know THIS source may not be appropriate to YOU but it's what I'm thinking of -

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=99063&criteria=MP3%20PLAYERS&doy=22m12

At the price here, it's just about no more than the cost of a couple of 1Gig xD cards here, and that's cheap enough . Supports jpeg's as you see from the ad , and WILL do other things if you wish.

For the cost , I think this could be a great buy - and by no means a big cumbersome extra to carry.

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ericN-UK

GAREB said:

Fuji warns against copying files onto the memory card from other
sources besides the camera, very risky in my opinion in that you
may not mess up your camera, but could very well destroy your
memory card. Just seems kind of foolish to me. If you want to
show your friends your photos, then copy them onto cd.

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I copy files to my memory cards all the time and take them to the store for printing. This will in no way damage your card or camera. As long as you don't delete the folders created by the camera you won't even have to reformat which, in itself, is easy to do. Fuji is just trying to avoid people calling and having to tell them how to reformat. (Yes, I'm a computer geek )

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Tom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/

The Creative Zen-V is a universal one that may be worth looking at - what price to you ?? - about similar to above local (UK) one above

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ericN-UK

if you know what your doing, but just look at this forum, not many people really know what they are doing and they end up messing up their cameras big time. Well not so much the camera, but memory card, you'd be surprised at what some people will try to copy onto these memory cards, I've heard of one person who tried to copy mp3 files onto a camera memory card. personally I like to copy my post processed photos onto a cd and take the cd to be printed instead of my card, I tell the printer what photos I want printed, what size and leave the cd and pick everything up in a day or two. It is not so much Fuji does not want to be worried with people calling and asking how to reformat the card as it is of people copying who knows what onto a card and expecting the camera to handle it and then screw up their card.
JD

That would be some pretty crappy hardware if it can be so easily messed up by non-standard files in the card. Even $30 mp3 players know to simply ignore files they can't recognize.

There are other things I don't follow to-the-letter as suggested in the manual. Like many posters here, I use a card reader to transfer my files instead of any of the dummy-patronizing software that comes with the camera. It's much faster and reliable. I don't subject myself to the limitations that Fuji likes to impose on the average consumer.

I also delete photos using the card reader, but as you know customer support for any product is a thing of the past, so why make it easier for the card company or camera company to void the warrenty because you did something they said not to? I'm not rich, and can not run out and buy a new camera everytime a new model comes out, so I have to follow the rules, then if something screws up, I have every legal right to make the company do right. Sure you can do this and that that Fuji says not to do and if something happens, not admit to doing it and Fuji most likely will fix the problem, but I do not care to take risks with anything I buy. It's kind like saying, I have an AR-15 and an AK-47, why not switch ammo, put the AR-15 ammon in the AK and the AK ammo in the AR, the rifles blow up, in all likely hood blows half your face off and you expect Colt and China Arms to replace your rifles and give you a lot of money to fix your face. You made the choice to do what you were told in the manual not to do and if you screw up, then your out of some big bucks.

Sure nobody said you have to do everything Fuji or any other company says, but I'm unwilling to, just my choice and nothing more, you have your way of doing things and that is fine for you and I have my way of doing things and that is fine for me. Maybe I've had my butt on the line too often to take chances, you only have to sleep with death once to learn I learned.
JD

I guess we just have a different tolerance level for risks. This is a relatively minor risk to me (comparing this to a gun and death is way over the top). I just got camera, and I'm doing what I normally do with new gadgets: try maximize its potential, find out everything it can and can't do, and if it somehow malfunctions during this "stress test stage", return it to the retailer when I'm still in the grace period. Better to try everything now than later when I can't return it.

If nothing else, this is a good way to find out the quality of the product - how it handles unorthodox situations. I fully expect Fuji (or any respectable company) to thoroughly QA the hell out of their product before it ships, subjecting the camera to all kinds of situations not mentioned in the manual.

I don't recommend this approach for everyone of course, but it works for me in getting the most functionality out of the products I buy.

The real problem is the exif. It has to be exactly in fuji's format. Maybe if you run it through the fuji view it could straighten it up enough to work on the camera?

Hal

...the funniest things here. I regularly switch my 4gb microdrive between my 350D and Muvo MP3 player with no ill effects.

I also use my memory cards to carry .doc, .exe, .avi and .zip with great success and no problems, you people worry far too much!

Memory cards were available before digital cameras.
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regards, Mark

http://www.pbase.com/mark_allen

I just read into the whole EXIF vs JPEG issue. I've gotten some images to display half-correctly: They show up in the full display playback mode, but not in the thumbnail view (the thumbnails are replaced by a question mark "?" )

What exactly did you mean by "run it through the fuji view"? Did you mean to suggest that I use the camera's software to "upload" pictures. I thought the software only allows you to grab files off the card, not put stuff on it (and run the risk of people putting unsupported fies).

Ooooh yes, this thead is so funny to read !!
People worry far too much I agree !

To simply be able to show photos to everybody, I copied some small (800x600) jpegs on my xd card, and they are displayed ok by my Fuji.
They are not "Fuji" files... they are web sized versions of my photos...

Thanks to the names I give, they are displayed first when I browse my card on the Fuji. As I copied small versions (40Kb each) they don't take up much memory.

But, yes, the only thing I really always do is format the card in the camera I will use with, so I am sure File system is ok. Also, I try to avoid deleting to much from the computer, as maybe (I have no idea) my camera does a better job at it. (so that space can be reclaimed in a better way)

mark allen said:

...the funniest things here. I regularly switch my 4gb microdrive
between my 350D and Muvo MP3 player with no ill effects.

I also use my memory cards to carry .doc, .exe, .avi and .zip with
great success and no problems, you people worry far too much!

Memory cards were available before digital cameras.
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regards, Mark

http://www.pbase.com/mark_allen

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Most cameras are 16 bit file systems and most PC's are 32 bit file systems. Moving a file from the card to the PC is OK. But moving that file back to the card can damage the file. If you do it and it works, fine! I would always make sure I had a backup of the file before I did it though.

When I first tried this with a digital camera and memory card no one could explain why the printed prctures were sometimes messed up, usually misaligned horizontally. There used to be a white paper on the Lexar site that explained it. And check the file sizes of the file on the card and then on the PC after moving it.

Hey - the thought has just come to me ... When I bought my SECOND F20 (got this in the nice Charcoal LE/SE version) I didn't really want the second one starting with pics at 000 so it seemed to be practical to copy my LATEST/HIGHEST number on the original F20, to an xD card and then put that in camera No.2. It worked fine - picked up that high number and No.2 cam carried on from there, no bother.

Now isn't this more or less the same ? It WAS of course an ORIGINAL untouched 'master' copy file that I copied from drive to xD and that went into camera...but it WAS a copy from hard-drive, pretty much the same as here isn't it .. and it worked OK ...
Explain that one ..

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ericN-UK

I would ask that you read the first paragraph of my post, same subj, again.

I only had the problem with damaged files (printed pictures) on 2 or 3 files from a group of a dozen or so that I had printed. It happened more than once. Since then, once I move a file from the card to the PC, and especially if I edit the file, I never move it back to the memory card. I've never had that problem again.

If moving the files from the PC back to the card works, fine. I'm just trying to make the OP aware of the potential problem and the possibility of damaging an important picture. There is another post in this forum about a problem that looks like it was caused by the same incompatibility issue.

Some camers are using a 32 bit file system. I have no idea which ones. My problem was with the Fuji 3800.

I was wrong and you are right. The fuji software only reads from the camera. I never used that software so I just assumed it did a little more than that.

Hal

LApple said:

I would ask that you read the first paragraph of my post, same
subj, again.

I only had the problem with damaged files (printed pictures) on 2
or 3 files from a group of a dozen or so that I had printed. It
happened more than once. Since then, once I move a file from the
card to the PC, and especially if I edit the file, I never move it
back to the memory card. I've never had that problem again.

If moving the files from the PC back to the card works, fine. I'm
just trying to make the OP aware of the potential problem and the
possibility of damaging an important picture. There is another post
in this forum about a problem that looks like it was caused by the
same incompatibility issue.

Some camers are using a 32 bit file system. I have no idea which
ones. My problem was with the Fuji 3800.

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Oops! sorry if we've got crossed lines here. On these lengthening threads it's sometimes difficult to know if your post is going to slot into the right position. It wasn't fully a reply to YOU in particular - more of a general open-mind thought that I'd done the transfer as said , and with no ill-effect. Certainly from a lot I've read here in recent times, for some unknown reason (it doesn't seem to crop up with other cams as far as I've seen anyway), but Fuji DO seem to be a bit tetchy on the card transfer thing. Funny how it works without trouble sometimes, but others get this problem.

I suppose to err on the side of caution IS the best. After all. a card cost you could write-off .. a CAMERA failure is another matter.

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ericN-UK

..similar to the way the camera generates the file names. i did it with my casio c750 and it worked fine. i did have a problem viewing them at LCD when the file names were different from the way the camera generate the file name, but after renaming them to CIMxxxxx (casio format of naming the files) i was able to view them in-camera.

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