andye53
Senior Member
If you set the display back to the "classic" mode, the lag goes away. The "graphic" mode (with the aperture and shutter graphics) will cause a slight lag when making adjustments.
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Darran
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Well, the camera looks nice. I'll be recommending it to a friend who wants to get into DSLR photography. However... Nikon seem to have learnt something from Canon (Or maybe Canon learnt it long ago from Nikon)...
I see the list prices quoted are 599 USD and 699 EUR and 499 GBP.
Converting the EUR price to USD at present day conversion rates gives a USD price of 921 USD.
Converting the GBP price to USD at present day conversion rates gives a USD price of 980 USD.
UK = 980 USD.
EU = 921 USD.
US = 599 USD.
So unless there is a MENTAL sales tax in US states well in excess of 50%, Nikon have joined Canon in the Great Rip Off Game.
Thanks guys.
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Darran
I see the list prices quoted are 599 USD and 699 EUR and 499 GBP.
Converting the EUR price to USD at present day conversion rates gives a USD price of 921 USD.
Converting the GBP price to USD at present day conversion rates gives a USD price of 980 USD.
UK = 980 USD.
EU = 921 USD.
US = 599 USD.
So unless there is a MENTAL sales tax in US states well in excess of 50%, Nikon have joined Canon in the Great Rip Off Game.
Thanks guys.
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Darran
John Tracy
Senior Member
..............from the review.
Strange how the reviewer saw it fitting to post these cons about the D50 but failed to apply them to the D40 con list.
Still some moire / maze artifact pattern visible
Kit lens performance is pretty average, corner soft, light fall-off (?)
the only kit lens difference is the focus wave motor .
No Kelvin white balance selection
No mirror lock-up (vibration reduction for long / macro exposures)
One command dial
LCD monitor display gamma can make some images appear over-exposed when they aren't (?)
not sure about this one.
No viewfinder grid lines (surprisingly useful if you're used to them; D70/D70s)
No vertical grip (portrait grip / battery pack) available
Encrypted white balance in RAW files limits third party converters
Strange how the reviewer saw it fitting to post these cons about the D50 but failed to apply them to the D40 con list.
Still some moire / maze artifact pattern visible
Kit lens performance is pretty average, corner soft, light fall-off (?)
the only kit lens difference is the focus wave motor .
No Kelvin white balance selection
No mirror lock-up (vibration reduction for long / macro exposures)
One command dial
LCD monitor display gamma can make some images appear over-exposed when they aren't (?)
not sure about this one.
No viewfinder grid lines (surprisingly useful if you're used to them; D70/D70s)
No vertical grip (portrait grip / battery pack) available
Encrypted white balance in RAW files limits third party converters
Btw it's "Spelt" not "Spelled"
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Barry Fitzgerald
Guest
No AF motor in body..everything else..yeah good for the price.
But this is the deal breaker.
Good as the high ISO is...still not as good as my KM5D...and I have the shots to show it too!
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But this is the deal breaker.
Good as the high ISO is...still not as good as my KM5D...and I have the shots to show it too!
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greatgreyowl
Well-known member
I think with the DP review, and other reviews, that the D40 is a bold camera.
That Nikon should be applauded for thier boldness and future thinking.
There has been much debate about the lack of auto focusing motor in the camera body.
That this is negative issue. I do not view this a negative but as Nikon's looking to the future. Introducing and bringing new camera to market in a crowded field needs to innovative. Nikon has accomplished that in the D40. As one reviewer has said Nikon is bringing a new camera, new lens to market. A camera that is not retro fitted for older lens. Nikon has those cameras in place. Nikon stance to stay at 6mp is also a great idea.
Yes I am impressed, excited about the D40. I have played around with at the store it just feels so wonderful in my hand, everything about feels right. I was almost set to buy a superzoom with its great limitions till the D40 changed my mind. When the funds are available it will be D40 that I will purchase. I can not wait till then. I feel the D40 will
be a great camera for my uses, a camera that will be a joy to use, a camera to grow and learn from. Thank you Nikon for your boldness.
That Nikon should be applauded for thier boldness and future thinking.
There has been much debate about the lack of auto focusing motor in the camera body.
That this is negative issue. I do not view this a negative but as Nikon's looking to the future. Introducing and bringing new camera to market in a crowded field needs to innovative. Nikon has accomplished that in the D40. As one reviewer has said Nikon is bringing a new camera, new lens to market. A camera that is not retro fitted for older lens. Nikon has those cameras in place. Nikon stance to stay at 6mp is also a great idea.
Yes I am impressed, excited about the D40. I have played around with at the store it just feels so wonderful in my hand, everything about feels right. I was almost set to buy a superzoom with its great limitions till the D40 changed my mind. When the funds are available it will be D40 that I will purchase. I can not wait till then. I feel the D40 will
be a great camera for my uses, a camera that will be a joy to use, a camera to grow and learn from. Thank you Nikon for your boldness.
thomas2279
Forum Pro
Good and fair + decent review...
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the rez graphs indeed show less moire on the D40. So while the sensor is essentially the same its performance apperantly is tweaked. Imaginable, since the same happened with D50 vs D70
the review is fairly enthausiastic about the kitty, so the design although not elimentary changed might be refined (tolerances, coating & who knows)
Agreed on your other points. Maybe PA considers D40 even more entry level than D50 and is therefore more forgiving for the lack of some features. After all, at introduction the D50 kit officially was $899, while the D40 kit is launched at $599 and will likely pretty quick fall to $499 ($399 body only). D50 never got that cheap where I live.
jimr
Forum Pro
From the D40 dpreview test:
"Just over two weeks ago I was quite happy to proclaim the Pentax K100D as having the best image quality of any six megapixel, well looking at this comparison I may have to say that the D40 has just edged the K100D off its throne. In each crop we can see the D40 has a slight edge in detail along with a complete lack of artifacts (there are a few jaggies in the K100D image)."
and the comment from the D40 conclusion:
"Excellent image quality, great resolution and detail, who needs eight megapixels?"
"Just over two weeks ago I was quite happy to proclaim the Pentax K100D as having the best image quality of any six megapixel, well looking at this comparison I may have to say that the D40 has just edged the K100D off its throne. In each crop we can see the D40 has a slight edge in detail along with a complete lack of artifacts (there are a few jaggies in the K100D image)."
and the comment from the D40 conclusion:
"Excellent image quality, great resolution and detail, who needs eight megapixels?"
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Barry Fitzgerald
Guest
Well some say it is not a deal breaker..and maybe it isnt...but to me it most def is.
If I were being sceptical, you could say Nikon are trying to cod people into just getting their own brand of lenses....
I feel the D40 will
It looks good, for what it is..nice to see some improved areas etc...VF...size is subjective, in cam processing..but what puzzles me is why not just make a smaller D50? I mean this isnt a great leap forward...by that I mean the UK price is um well near £400, should be under £300..then you wont hear a single complaint from me!
Is this the best 6mp camera every released...probably not...what is? Who can say..very little between them as it stands...
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Phil Askey
Guest
Where have you been for the last two years?
Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
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Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
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Phil Askey
Guest
The setting changes on the LCD are slower than doing it 'the old fashioned way' but I didn't find them obstructive.
Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
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Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
thomas2279
Forum Pro
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jimr
Forum Pro
From the D50 manual:
400 single
2,000 continuous
From the D40 manual:
470 single
2,200 continuos
In practice, my D50 has often provided many many more single shots between charges than listed.
As you can see, the D40 is more 'fuel efficient' than the D50...even with a smaller battery!
400 single
2,000 continuous
From the D40 manual:
470 single
2,200 continuos
In practice, my D50 has often provided many many more single shots between charges than listed.
As you can see, the D40 is more 'fuel efficient' than the D50...even with a smaller battery!
JustMosing
Forum Enthusiast
Excellent review, as always. I was wondering if the lack of exposure bracketing is a necessary byproduct of cost cutting, or is it simply a case of a marketing department "decontenting" the cheaper camera and has no technical cost justification?
I must admit I like the D40, but I do like exposure bracketing, particularly in conjunction with a mirror lockup (sadly, missing as well).
I must admit I like the D40, but I do like exposure bracketing, particularly in conjunction with a mirror lockup (sadly, missing as well).
Without RAW comparisons, readers may have the impression that D40's image quality is inferior to Rebel XT's.
This was my main complain about D50's review. It creates doubt among prospective buyers about D40 and D50's image quality. Then dpreview is doing a dis-service to its loyal readers.
This was my main complain about D50's review. It creates doubt among prospective buyers about D40 and D50's image quality. Then dpreview is doing a dis-service to its loyal readers.
Thanks for another fair review! I really appreicate this approach. I am not comfortable buying and returning over and over to do my own comparisons, and do not know enough to do my own comparisons right anyway . . . Lots more variables these days than just Velvia vs Kodachrome.
If a product is tested like this with good results I figure bad results are my fault rather than the camera. Otherwize how would a rookie (like me) know if the problem was the sensor, the lens, the metering system, etc. rather than just operator error.
By the way, I did by a D40 a couple of weeks ago. Not to save money, I just liked the feel, size, and layout. Regarding the buttons (and lack of buttons), I do OK because:
1: I use the center focus anyway.
2: The exposure bias is really handy
3: I use the programable button for ISO
4: The menu returns to the last place it was when it was closed, so I leave it on WB.
With any camera I leave the file size and type set anyway.
Thanks again, DPR!
If a product is tested like this with good results I figure bad results are my fault rather than the camera. Otherwize how would a rookie (like me) know if the problem was the sensor, the lens, the metering system, etc. rather than just operator error.
By the way, I did by a D40 a couple of weeks ago. Not to save money, I just liked the feel, size, and layout. Regarding the buttons (and lack of buttons), I do OK because:
1: I use the center focus anyway.
2: The exposure bias is really handy
3: I use the programable button for ISO
4: The menu returns to the last place it was when it was closed, so I leave it on WB.
With any camera I leave the file size and type set anyway.
Thanks again, DPR!
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Dave Lewis
Guest
I don't know if those numbers are consciously relative or not. The K10D, according to Phil, has image sharpening issues. He found no issues beyond hardware design ones in the D40. I think any of us who have tried the D40 and have read the review and have worked with any of its images will consider it to be at the top of its class, probably tied with the Pentax K100D. I own several Pentaxes and am about to buy a D40 and can see the similarities, though the Nikon seems a slicker camera to me. The images are well processed without being obtrusive. The speed and quietness and fine handling and comfort in spite of its small size is obviously quite outstanding.
Great cameras come along some time. I think the D40 is a great camera. It reminds me of the Canon D30, the first really afordable and viable DSLR. The Canon 1D, probably the most outstanding professional level camera in its time. The Pentax K100D, the ultimate example of an incrimental line of tiny trend setting cameras. The Nikon D1 the first pro DSLR to be an affordable alternative for journalistic pros coming from a legacy of Nikon film SLR's. I could go on and on, but I think in a couple years, we will look back and mark the D40 as an ultimate example of its kind.
I should make the purchase tomorrow, but really have no reason not to wait for its price to come down a bit. I have plenty of equipment to keep me excited while I wait.
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Dave Lewis
Great cameras come along some time. I think the D40 is a great camera. It reminds me of the Canon D30, the first really afordable and viable DSLR. The Canon 1D, probably the most outstanding professional level camera in its time. The Pentax K100D, the ultimate example of an incrimental line of tiny trend setting cameras. The Nikon D1 the first pro DSLR to be an affordable alternative for journalistic pros coming from a legacy of Nikon film SLR's. I could go on and on, but I think in a couple years, we will look back and mark the D40 as an ultimate example of its kind.
I should make the purchase tomorrow, but really have no reason not to wait for its price to come down a bit. I have plenty of equipment to keep me excited while I wait.
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Patco
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.....there are more posts in the thread about the D40 review in the Pentax SLR forum than there are here.
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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels
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Patco
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