-
Welcome to the new forums! Please read this first. For known issues we are working to resolve, click here.
Fuji S2 is Real
- Thread starter Steven John
- Start date
$4860.00 for a Fujifilm (N80)...seems kinda high!
--Dennis D
Joe Hoddinott
Veteran Member
Very nice - but it seems a bit pricey for an N80 body ($4k+) If the price was friendlier and the images are as good as Fuji claims - it would be a nice D1x backup. I don't see the reason to interpolate to 12MP in camera when the same can be attained from software, allowing more in camera storage space.
This is kind of exciting news as now I'm even more curious to see what Nikon is is actually using for their rumored DSLR. I doubt they would use the N80 base as well. F100????
This is like Christmas!
--Regards,Joe H.---------------------------------------www.biggerboatstudios.com
This is kind of exciting news as now I'm even more curious to see what Nikon is is actually using for their rumored DSLR. I doubt they would use the N80 base as well. F100????
This is like Christmas!
--Regards,Joe H.---------------------------------------www.biggerboatstudios.com
Joe Hoddinott
Veteran Member
OUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to charging AA NiMH's.--Regards,Joe H.---------------------------------------www.biggerboatstudios.com
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to charging AA NiMH's.--Regards,Joe H.---------------------------------------www.biggerboatstudios.com
Michael Martin
Senior Member
The batteries were the main problem with the S1, and also why are they using the same CHEAP compact flash door again ? Couldn't Fuji learn from it's mistakes? Overall a disappointment to Fuji fans. I'm glad I sold my Fuji S1 and bought the Canon EOS 1D.OUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
Robert M28897
Veteran Member
Did Fuji give you the impression they were going to produce a camera that was going to go head-to-head with the D1x and the 1D? A camera that would be built like a tank and satisfy professonal sports shooters with bullet like frame rates? Sorry, I think you set yourself up to be disappointed.
At the current (list) price, the S2 looks overpriced, though not as badly as the S1 was overpriced given its deficiencies. Frankly, though, my opinion is that the street price will be more favorable with all the competition coming up, unless Nikon extracted such an onerous license fee for N80 bodies that Fuji will be caught between the higher end professional cameras and Nikon's and Canon's own rumored upcoming D-SLRs.
Otherwise, the improvements look quite good and this looks like a very interesting camera. Low ISO, support for advanced Nikon lenses and flashes, RAW mode, and a new CCD. The 12mp sounds like a gimmick, but it still should be interesting to see what it delivers. And I like the idea of a more portable body like the N80, even if it means there are compromises in build quality.
The battery issue is a notable quibble, but honestly, I've used Canon's and Sony's lithium ion batteries in other cameras, and they are very good, but the current generation of NiMHs hold up very well in comparison. Investing in CR123s on a regular basis does add cost, but I wonder about people who whine about paying for extra batteries, yet think nothing of dropping thousands of dollars on lenses.
Robert
At the current (list) price, the S2 looks overpriced, though not as badly as the S1 was overpriced given its deficiencies. Frankly, though, my opinion is that the street price will be more favorable with all the competition coming up, unless Nikon extracted such an onerous license fee for N80 bodies that Fuji will be caught between the higher end professional cameras and Nikon's and Canon's own rumored upcoming D-SLRs.
Otherwise, the improvements look quite good and this looks like a very interesting camera. Low ISO, support for advanced Nikon lenses and flashes, RAW mode, and a new CCD. The 12mp sounds like a gimmick, but it still should be interesting to see what it delivers. And I like the idea of a more portable body like the N80, even if it means there are compromises in build quality.
The battery issue is a notable quibble, but honestly, I've used Canon's and Sony's lithium ion batteries in other cameras, and they are very good, but the current generation of NiMHs hold up very well in comparison. Investing in CR123s on a regular basis does add cost, but I wonder about people who whine about paying for extra batteries, yet think nothing of dropping thousands of dollars on lenses.
Robert
The batteries were the main problem with the S1, and also why areOUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
they using the same CHEAP compact flash door again ? Couldn't
Fuji learn from it's mistakes? Overall a disappointment to Fuji
fans. I'm glad I sold my Fuji S1 and bought the Canon EOS 1D.
Please think it over before you buy, because FujiFilm's CCD have a serious problem in highlight blooming.
Michael Martin
Senior Member
When I had my S1 I didn't care about the cost of the batteries, just the fact that they were always giving me and others the dreaded "Err" message. The whole power system was very unreliable.
The batteries were the main problem with the S1, and also why areOUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
they using the same CHEAP compact flash door again ? Couldn't
Fuji learn from it's mistakes? Overall a disappointment to Fuji
fans. I'm glad I sold my Fuji S1 and bought the Canon EOS 1D.
Michael Martin
Senior Member
I had an S1 and had no highlight blooming, just the dreaded "ERR" message.
Trent Mulkern
Veteran Member
My exchange calculator has the price at $4241 w/VAT. Subtract 25% VAT and you have a $3180 USA MSRP. I think you will find that to be a sub $3000 initial price point, or about what the D30 came in at.
Regards,
Trent
Regards,
Trent
Trent Mulkern
Veteran Member
My estimation of VAT is probably too high. Make the USA MSRP at $3486, but still a possible $3000 price point.
Regards,
Trent
Regards,
Trent
Edmund Cheung
Well-known member
This used to be one of the major reasons that I didn't buy the S1pro, and now, history repeats itself... I feel sorry for Fuji to make the same serious mistake twice. (I don't mind charging NiMH though)
--regards,EdmundOUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
Andrew Chiciak
Veteran Member
There is no need for the lithiums unless you will be using the popup flash,
which most pros will never do.
which most pros will never do.
--Andy CAt the current (list) price, the S2 looks overpriced, though not as
badly as the S1 was overpriced given its deficiencies. Frankly,
though, my opinion is that the street price will be more favorable
with all the competition coming up, unless Nikon extracted such an
onerous license fee for N80 bodies that Fuji will be caught between
the higher end professional cameras and Nikon's and Canon's own
rumored upcoming D-SLRs.
Otherwise, the improvements look quite good and this looks like a
very interesting camera. Low ISO, support for advanced Nikon
lenses and flashes, RAW mode, and a new CCD. The 12mp sounds like
a gimmick, but it still should be interesting to see what it
delivers. And I like the idea of a more portable body like the
N80, even if it means there are compromises in build quality.
The battery issue is a notable quibble, but honestly, I've used
Canon's and Sony's lithium ion batteries in other cameras, and they
are very good, but the current generation of NiMHs hold up very
well in comparison. Investing in CR123s on a regular basis does
add cost, but I wonder about people who whine about paying for
extra batteries, yet think nothing of dropping thousands of dollars
on lenses.
Robert
The batteries were the main problem with the S1, and also why areOUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
they using the same CHEAP compact flash door again ? Couldn't
Fuji learn from it's mistakes? Overall a disappointment to Fuji
fans. I'm glad I sold my Fuji S1 and bought the Canon EOS 1D.
Derek Hill
Well-known member
Personally, I think that having standard AA's is a much better way to go that a battery pack such as the one in the D1's.
Why?
AA's are available everywhere, if you run out in the middle of something, the nearest 7-11 has them.
NiMH AA cells are great and are getting more and more powerful every month it seems. You can now buy 1900mA batteries and if one of them goes bad, you throw it away, you cannot do that with a battery pack, one of the cells goes bad, the entire pack goes bad.
NiMH AA cells are cheap, you can purchase them for about $15 (1900mA), $7.50 (1600mA) and they could be used in other items such as your SB28DX and even your other (backup) cameras. You cannot do that with a $99 D1X battery pack.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
Derek
Why?
AA's are available everywhere, if you run out in the middle of something, the nearest 7-11 has them.
NiMH AA cells are great and are getting more and more powerful every month it seems. You can now buy 1900mA batteries and if one of them goes bad, you throw it away, you cannot do that with a battery pack, one of the cells goes bad, the entire pack goes bad.
NiMH AA cells are cheap, you can purchase them for about $15 (1900mA), $7.50 (1600mA) and they could be used in other items such as your SB28DX and even your other (backup) cameras. You cannot do that with a $99 D1X battery pack.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
Derek
--I came, I saw, I took a pictureOUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
I hope your right Trent, I'm thinking about a backup for my D1x, if this camera comes through the reviews fine then I'll seriously consider it (unless Nikon comes out with a new model)
Dennis
Dennis
--Dennis D
J
jim kelly
Guest
the 6mp ccd is not full size thus the 1.5x multiplier and the assumed increase in noise due to smaller pixels ??
Jola
Senior Member
I agree with Derek regarding the use of NiMh AA's. This is the way to go. You can also charge them anywhere, with car chargers freely available.
But hopefully Fuji have improved the power consumption/management of the S2.
Jola
But hopefully Fuji have improved the power consumption/management of the S2.
Jola
Why?
AA's are available everywhere, if you run out in the middle of
something, the nearest 7-11 has them.
NiMH AA cells are great and are getting more and more powerful
every month it seems. You can now buy 1900mA batteries and if one
of them goes bad, you throw it away, you cannot do that with a
battery pack, one of the cells goes bad, the entire pack goes bad.
NiMH AA cells are cheap, you can purchase them for about $15
(1900mA), $7.50 (1600mA) and they could be used in other items such
as your SB28DX and even your other (backup) cameras. You cannot do
that with a $99 D1X battery pack.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
Derek
--OUCH! Same batteries as S1:
• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• 2 x 3V lithium (CR123A or DL123A)
Never mind that backup comment - I'm not about to return to
charging AA NiMH's.
--
Regards,
Joe H.
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com
I came, I saw, I took a picture
Keyboard shortcuts
- f
- Forum