Blown out whites on FF Canon

jgpacker · Dec 13, 2006

You point? On my screen your sand look beige. I think we're talking user error here not camera error. Get you monitor calibrated. Don't take any notice of the screen on the back of the camera and look at the histograms.

By a compact point and shoot if your looking at just using the full auto setting then spend the remaining £1500 on a good holiday. I don't know they Canon even put full auto on these camera's, do you remember a full auto mode on a Canon A1!

I will say full auto is quite handy when my 7 year old nethew wants to take a picture.

Paul5D · Dec 13, 2006

looks fine to me certainly no white, the photos as a whole lacks a bit of contrast but nothings blown on my calibrated screen.
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Peter White · Dec 13, 2006

Nothing is blown out. Looks like a bright sunny day in the desert to me.

Hellashot · Dec 13, 2006

..as you stated:

Larrylee said:
I am on my sixth digital camera, and my fourth SLR, first full
frame. Canon factory has my camera again for repair. In all
pictures with whites in them, the whites are over exposed, even a
white flower in deep woods shots. My White adobe buildings in
sunlight are blown away - overexposed. I am using the same lenses I
used on my small sensor SLRs. Is anyone else having this problem?
On a recent photo trip to to Big Bend Nat'l park, my wifes Casio
EX-750 out diid my $8,000 outfit in most shots. Using full Auto is
out of the question, using Program three stops down helped a little.

Larry

And what $8000 setup? Your shot was a 5D $2500, and 17mm so probably 17-40 another $600.

It looks like that shot exposed for the shadows of the rocks instead of the whole frame which is your fault and not a camera problem. With an SLR the photographer needs to make the decisions on how and where to meter properly. If you want an automatic camera, get a P&S like your wife.

JohnnyRX7 · Dec 13, 2006

sand is beige on my uncal'd work LCD monitor
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wrider · Dec 13, 2006

Larrylee said:
Thanks for everyones input, I still would like the 5D's finished
product to turn out to be as good or better then its predecessors
which I have owned, ( D60,10D and 20D )

IT is.

Larrylee said:
They all did super jobs in
Full auto. I thought it might be a full frame issue

This is not a "FF" issue, whatever that might be.

Larrylee said:
and the 1Ds
users might be experincing the same phenomenon with ff over smaller
sensor units.

Phenomenom? What phenomenom? Over exposure? Lack of knowlege about exposure? No camera can make all the right decisions.

Larrylee said:
I don't mind using Prog, AV or TV, but I shouldn't
have to all the time, Anyway thanks again, I still hope Canon
factory service can help.

Keep us informed.

Larrylee said:
I really have enjoyed DP review over the past years in my review
and purchase of new equipment for me and my friends.

Larry

I hope you get some help from Canon or someone. Your expectations are way too high, though. A Ferrari doesn't doesn't drive easier than a chevy just because it costs more. In the wrong hands it is downright dangerous.

There should be a rule (or a "special" forum) here for people complaining that their $8000 cameras don't do all the work for them. I don't mind if they buy them- it keeps the economy and Canon going- i just don't want to hear them complain about the auto modes not turning out perfect pictures.
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AperturePro · Dec 13, 2006

wrider said:
There should be a rule (or a "special" forum) here for people
complaining that their $8000 cameras don't do all the work for
them. I don't mind if they buy them- it keeps the economy and Canon
going- i just don't want to hear them complain about the auto modes
not turning out perfect pictures.
Sorry I'm grumpy today...

Any yet another reason why 5D should not be in the forum heading.
People buying it that have no need or reason for anything more than
a 20D. Blame the camera for their own lousy results when they don't
know the basics of exposure. Why even bother 1D users with posts
about the basic functions of camrea use?

andym107 · Dec 13, 2006

AperturePro said:
AperturePro said:

There should be a rule (or a "special" forum) here for people
complaining that their $8000 cameras don't do all the work for
them. I don't mind if they buy them- it keeps the economy and Canon
going- i just don't want to hear them complain about the auto modes
not turning out perfect pictures.
Sorry I'm grumpy today...

Click to expand...

Any yet another reason why 5D should not be in the forum heading.
People buying it that have no need or reason for anything more than
a 20D. Blame the camera for their own lousy results when they don't
know the basics of exposure. Why even bother 1D users with posts
about the basic functions of camrea use?

Guys,

He's asking a question. This is a forum - for all levels. If you don't want to read all the posts, then don't! Seems you read a lot of posts before you got this far. Everyone has to learn - guess you did once, and hopefully no-one tried making you look like a monkey. If you can't help, then read another post that you find more stimulating.

Some of the apparently dumbest questions are the most enlightening - useful lesson in life. In the meanwhile, I'm back off to play with my toy 5D - I hope to be grown up enough one day to be allowed near a 1D...

DaveAll · Dec 13, 2006

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KiboOst · Dec 13, 2006

I hope you posted the wrong shot to show your problem.
In case not :

I can understand your monitor could not be calibrated (well, in such uncommon level hermm no but ... well ...), but just verify yourself on photoshop for example :

Do you see any 255.255.255 point here ? 255.255.255 is white ...

And anyway, stop using auto, and give a try to raw, even tried some highlight recovery ? Even if this has nothing related with your post.

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JohnnyBlood · Dec 13, 2006

No offense, but if it took you years to learn how to post an image to this bulletin board and you are using your 5D on Automatic mode, I suggest taking a step back and appreciate the fact that you're a bit over your head.

Another thing to point out; when taking landscape photographs it is often best to take those photographs using morning or afternoon light...not when the sun is directly overhead. Read some books, learn how to shoot RAW, Av (aperture priority), set up your metering correctly, learn how to use your lens, read some books and lurk around these bulletin boards. But blaming the camera will not get you any where.

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Robert 55 · Dec 13, 2006

are you reading all 5D threads to find a reason to complain about the 5d and the 1d being in the same forum?

AperturePro said:
Any yet another reason why 5D should not be in the forum heading.
People buying it that have no need or reason for anything more than
a 20D. Blame the camera for their own lousy results when they don't
know the basics of exposure. Why even bother 1D users with posts
about the basic functions of camrea use?

Steven Noyes · Dec 13, 2006

If this is JPEG, I would have let in about 1/3 less light but even now, the exposure is not a "blown" exposure but it is very exposed to the right with a bit too much on the red...

Also, I have found that setting AWB is not always the best in the desert and simply setting things to Daylight will result in better images on average.

But even this image, is good enough to get a "pop" image out of. For example, this is the 20 second curve adjustment on:

Far from perfect but might be closer to what you were seeing/after.

Steven

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Larrylee · Dec 13, 2006

Thanks for all your friendly and helpful comments. My bottom line question still is that my D60, 10D, XT and 20D made great shots on auto set when I had to take a quick shot of a deer or a race boat.
Thanks again.

Rob Martin Bangkok · Dec 13, 2006

different folks.
Good on ya, use the camera in a fashion that gets what you want.
Some use full manual.
My preferred state is Av with EC on almost every picture.

For blown out whites, there may be nothing wrong with the camera. But I don;t remember seeing examples (did I look hard enuf?)
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Steven Noyes · Dec 13, 2006

So is the 5D. It is still up to you to make some of the decisions.

Steven

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Peter White · Dec 13, 2006

Larry,

First step, read your manual.

Second step, find some articles on the internet about how to use a digital camera. I recommend Ron Bigelow's site.

http://ronbigelow.com/articles/articles.htm

Third. Go to the library or Amazon.com for books on digital photography. You'd be amazed at what you can learn from books.

Fourth, If that doesn't do the trick, look for a workshop in your area. You'll find plenty with a Google search.

Fifth, take up another activity. Knitting, kite flying, pimple popping, head standing, sea kayaking, grave robbing, hang gliding, and midget tossing are all popular activities for people of various abilities and aptitudes.

I'd like to apologize for the fifth suggestion. It was in very poor taste, and I promise to never do it again.

christianhough · Dec 13, 2006

few other people are having a problem. Don't really get point your trying to make. Is is 'I have a problem correctly exposing my photographs with my new camera' or 'I don't like Canon's FF'?

Which one?

Chris
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rSavage · Dec 13, 2006

but i think you should get a lesser camera. seriously.. you're not ready for it.. it's a shame to waste such a capable camera by shooting in auto.

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STEVENAS · Dec 14, 2006

Larrylee said:
I am on my sixth digital camera, and my fourth SLR, first full
frame. Canon factory has my camera again for repair.

Larry

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Let me just guess what the Canon repair tech had on the report enclosed with your returned camera,
in summary: nothing to repair, camera works just fine.

What they wished they could have reported:
moron, stick to P&S cameras......

no offense......

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