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Hilary Photo Manipulated?

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I'm not sure the intent Mr. Gorton suggests is necessarily accurate. I am particularly caught up with the suggestion of "haggard." I don't get that feeling from the photo at all. I get a calm, intently observant feeling from her look. The picture is quite attractive in a serious, seasoned, conservatively dressed and politically intent way. Personally, I think that image will get a more approving appraisal than one that is airbrushed and glossed over to create an impression of femininity and youthful grace. Folks don't look to Hillary as a spokes model. They look to her as an articulate, seasoned, senator. For that identity, I think the image is flattering.

I consider Mr. Gorton's article as stereotypical and coming from a chauvinistic viewpoint. "All women must be physically exploited because our society demands it." His cleverness in digging out the Photoshop trickery, might be accurate but he has not captured the motivation. We're looking at Hillary Clinton, a possible presidential candidate, not Britney Spears.
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Dave Lewis
 
Either way it is a very poor job, ridiculously oversharpened. Photographers have been doing this (some intentionally altering face proportions) forever.

No big news.
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Yiannis

'We don't take pictures with our cameras,' Newman once said. 'We take them with our hearts and we take them with our minds, and the camera is nothing more than a tool.'
 
The integrity of the media takes another major slide when images become manipulated to alter reality. Off-topic, but related, is the really sad fact that people are picking leaders based on looks, rather than on experience and ability...the same thing is happening with actors in Hollyweird. Ugh.
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'Warning labels defeat the effectiveness of natural selection.'
 
I agree--it's oversharpened, but that's about it. The text on the book is absolutely as you'd expect it given the DOF (look at the type on the back-cover as a reference point.)

What a waste of time and energy.

Jeff
 
JohnnyBlood said:
Let's please keep politics off of these boards if possible. I use
photography to escape from the real world; not to be reminded of it.
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Then don't quote one of the worst, most fascist, rightwing, anti-American blogs out there.

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John in Minnetundra
 
JMikes said:
subroc said:
JMikes said:
JMikes wrote:
Real Americans don't read the wretched Powerline blog. And by
"real" I mean intelligent and patriotic.
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I read it.
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Brave of you to admit to your hatred of America in public.
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John in Minnetundra
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I didn’t admit to that. You assigned that position to me.

I love my country. I prove it every day by service to my nation. A matter of fact the handle that I use on this BB is a discontinued military weapons system.

I don’t know you. You don’t know me. We have never had a discussion about anything. It is interesting that someone posted a link to a website with a photographic link and your response was an attack on all who read it. I expect you are an extreme left wing radical that no longer has the ability to reason or debate with ideas that are counter to yours. Such a shame in a nation that believes in freedom of speech that the left wing no longer believes in free speech.

BTW, I think Powerline in a pretty good read. Conservative, yes. Extreme, not by a long shot.

I also listen to NPR.
 
now she loses on both counts.
bwbrock said:
The integrity of the media takes another major slide when images
become manipulated to alter reality. Off-topic, but related, is
the really sad fact that people are picking leaders based on looks,
rather than on experience and ability...the same thing is happening
with actors in Hollyweird. Ugh.
--
'Warning labels defeat the effectiveness of natural selection.'
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subroc said:
I didn’t admit to that. You assigned that position to me.

I love my country. I prove it every day by service to my nation. A
matter of fact the handle that I use on this BB is a discontinued
military weapons system.

I don’t know you. You don’t know me. We have never had a discussion
about anything. It is interesting that someone posted a link to a
website with a photographic link and your response was an attack on
all who read it. I expect you are an extreme left wing radical that
no longer has the ability to reason or debate with ideas that are
counter to yours. Such a shame in a nation that believes in freedom
of speech that the left wing no longer believes in free speech.

BTW, I think Powerline in a pretty good read. Conservative, yes.
Extreme, not by a long shot.

I also listen to NPR.
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PowerLine Blog doesn't believe in free speech, as they've proven over and over again. It's a extremist, anti-American site, populated by sicko rightwing haters, and those who support it are obviously anti-American to an extreme. Yeah, you're right, I'm a left winger, one of those sick pro-Constitution, pro-individual freedoms, pro-civil rights, pro-America commies. Go spew your hatred to someone who agrees with your pathetic world view, like the fascist creeps at Powerline.

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John in Minnetundra
 
JMikes said:
subroc said:
I didn’t admit to that. You assigned that position to me.

I love my country. I prove it every day by service to my nation. A
matter of fact the handle that I use on this BB is a discontinued
military weapons system.

I don’t know you. You don’t know me. We have never had a discussion
about anything. It is interesting that someone posted a link to a
website with a photographic link and your response was an attack on
all who read it. I expect you are an extreme left wing radical that
no longer has the ability to reason or debate with ideas that are
counter to yours. Such a shame in a nation that believes in freedom
of speech that the left wing no longer believes in free speech.

BTW, I think Powerline in a pretty good read. Conservative, yes.
Extreme, not by a long shot.

I also listen to NPR.
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PowerLine Blog doesn't believe in free speech, as they've proven
over and over again. It's a extremist, anti-American site,
populated by sicko rightwing haters, and those who support it are
obviously anti-American to an extreme. Yeah, you're right, I'm a
left winger, one of those sick pro-Constitution, pro-individual
freedoms, pro-civil rights, pro-America commies. Go spew your
hatred to someone who agrees with your pathetic world view, like
the fascist creeps at Powerline.


John in Minnetundra
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WoW!!!!

There really isn’t a need to say any more!
 
No, I didn't run into photographs that had less of a political impact. This was interesting only because of the ethics of using Photoshop in a news room and the notion that an editor might have manipulated the image. There was not another example; the fact that it was Hilary, I suppose, made it interesting.

Further, there was nothing political about my post at all. And, for your information, my political leanings are a bit right of Atilla the Hun, so you probably should not automatically assume that someone else's political views are contrary to your own.

Johnny

http://www.flickr.com/photos/latitudes/
 
I didn't make any political statements at all. It was RE: a photo that may or may not have been manipulated. Feel free to spew your political rants and ravings if you want, but I merely wanted to discuss a 'Time' magazine photograph that may or may not have been manipulated intentionally or unintentionally. This has nothing to do with my my patriotism or political leanings.

Johnny

http://www.flickr.com/photos/latitudes/
 
Well, the issue is this (along with the complaints about a manipulated AP photo during the Israeli-Lebanese conflict), are newspapers sharpening and improving images that come from news photographers?

Frankly, I don't know if I like it that people are complaining about images that makes subjects look older or younger or making something news related look worse or better than it really is. I'm sure photographs taken with film were manipulated in ways, too, weren't they? I mean, if there is an intent to change the spirit of an image, that's one thing, but if newsrooms are not allowed to sharpen, crop, saturate, improve images, I think that's going a bit too far.

Johnny

http://www.flickr.com/photos/latitudes/
 
Of course pro-Hillary photographers and plastic surgeons change reality every day and do so for millions of people...

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Yiannis

'We don't take pictures with our cameras,' Newman once said. 'We take them with our hearts and we take them with our minds, and the camera is nothing more than a tool.'
 
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