Price for used UZI

I have recently bought an E-20 and may sell my UZI. I am trying to figure out what a decent price would be without giving it away.

The camera is in "Mint" condition. Not a blemish on it.

I keep going back and forth about selling the thing. It is fun to shoot and I really like the panorama's and movies it will take. I just don't need 2 cameras.

I hope this is not too far off topic. I am not trying to sell it here just solicit opinions about a fair price.

Thanks...--Tommy

You might look at ebay and see what one is going for.

Shawn

Tommy Martin said:

I have recently bought an E-20 and may sell my UZI. I am trying to
figure out what a decent price would be without giving it away.

The camera is in "Mint" condition. Not a blemish on it.

I keep going back and forth about selling the thing. It is fun to
shoot and I really like the panorama's and movies it will take. I
just don't need 2 cameras.

I hope this is not too far off topic. I am not trying to sell it
here just solicit opinions about a fair price.

Thanks...
--
Tommy

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I would hang on to it for awhile. You may find you need two cameras for different situations. -- http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries21oo , B-3oo3o4oJuli

I have been thinking about that. The UZI is really more fun to shoot to tell you the truth. I really like the panorama's and the short movies it will take.

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until it wore completely out.

Tommy

Juli Valley said:

I would hang on to it for awhile. You may find you need two
cameras for different situations.
--
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries
21oo, B-3oo
3o4o
Juli

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--Tommy

I would hang on to it as well...if it does turn out to be discontinued, then once the remaining availability dries up, you may find that it will have a higher resale value.

I personally love my Uzi, although I've only had it since Jan 6. But I can pretty much say already that when I upgrade to a higher MP camera, I'll keep the Uzi.

Tommy Martin said:

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and
highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several
shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until
it wore completely out.

Tommy

Juli Valley said:

I would hang on to it for awhile. You may find you need two
cameras for different situations.
--
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries
21oo, B-3oo
3o4o
Juli

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--
Tommy

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--DogOfThunderNikon 8OO8, Pentax K-1OOO andOlympus C-21OOUZ

DogOfThunder said:

I would hang on to it as well...if it does turn out to be
discontinued, then once the remaining availability dries up, you
may find that it will have a higher resale value.

I personally love my Uzi, although I've only had it since Jan 6.
But I can pretty much say already that when I upgrade to a higher
MP camera, I'll keep the Uzi.

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My sentiments EXACTLY. I've been looking at the E-20 lately but I am definitely going to keep my UZi 'cause it's a DUZi. ;-)

I've been looking at the E-20 for exactly the same sort of thing, but I don't know if I can drop from the 10x lens down to a 4x. In an arena you really need the 10x to get into the corners. How is the e-20 working out with hockey? Do you have any samples?

Thanks

Pat

Tommy Martin said:

I have been thinking about that. The UZI is really more fun to
shoot to tell you the truth. I really like the panorama's and the
short movies it will take.

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and
highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several
shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until
it wore completely out.

Tommy

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--PFR

I know the E-10 was rated very slow for shot-to-shot times due to buffer-writng of the larger files it produces; know a couple of still photographers (pros) who like image quality, but are frustrated by write time, evn in studio. Is E-20 that much faster? How about Uzi in Burst Mode?

Just wondering...

nashfilm

Tommy Martin said:

I have recently bought an E-20 and may sell my UZI. I am trying to
figure out what a decent price would be without giving it away.

The camera is in "Mint" condition. Not a blemish on it.

I keep going back and forth about selling the thing. It is fun to
shoot and I really like the panorama's and movies it will take. I
just don't need 2 cameras.

I hope this is not too far off topic. I am not trying to sell it
here just solicit opinions about a fair price.

Thanks...
--
Tommy

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Tommy Martin said:

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and
highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several
shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until
it wore completely out.

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You may want to hold on to the UZI for a bit yet. Having owned an E10, you may quickly find that the E20 will not keep up. Its been reported quite often Write times are even LONGER than the E10.

That's only if Oly doesn't replace it with something better. If there is a better replacement in the works, the used price will drop.

DogOfThunder said:

I would hang on to it as well...if it does turn out to be
discontinued, then once the remaining availability dries up, you
may find that it will have a higher resale value.

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I have shot a few games so far. I am in the process of preparing some of the images for my web site. I will post a link here tonight or tomorrow as I get finished.

I find the E-20 to be a good camera although it has trouble focusing through the glass around the rink. I think the IR focus assist is reflecting off of the glass and confusing the camera.

The arena here had very bad lighting so shutter speed runs around 1/200 or so. Some of the shot's have motion blur. Some of the blur is desirable and some isn't. There are adapters for the E-10/E-20 that will give you about the same focal range as the UZI but they are expensive. Look at http://www.belgiumdigital.com for pictures and samples.

The first game I shot with it I was disapointed with the results. I had basically just bought the camera and took it to a shoot the same day. The second gams has 10X better results.

The highest ISO for E-20 is 320. 800 would be nice.

Look around the Olympus SLR board and there are several people that shoot hockey with that camera and have posted some results. Some of mine are better... some are worse than the examples you will see.

I will say that each time I go out with it the results are better as I get more used to the strengths and weaknesses of the new camera.

I wanted to use the UZI but it just was a little slow for the job. It is a great camera but shooting for the local paper is a little much for it.

Tommy

PFR said:

I've been looking at the E-20 for exactly the same sort of thing,
but I don't know if I can drop from the 10x lens down to a 4x. In
an arena you really need the 10x to get into the corners. How is
the e-20 working out with hockey? Do you have any samples?

Thanks

Pat
--Tommy

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The write times can be frustrating at times. The good thing is that the camera will buffer 4 shots in is mode and 7 in ps mode. When the camera writes 1 picture it will take another while the others are still being written.

Tommy

nashfilm said:

I know the E-10 was rated very slow for shot-to-shot times due to
buffer-writng of the larger files it produces; know a couple of
still photographers (pros) who like image quality, but are
frustrated by write time, evn in studio. Is E-20 that much faster?
How about Uzi in Burst Mode?

Just wondering...

nashfilm--Tommy

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The write times can be a problem at times. I shoot hockey at 1/2 size or 2.5 mp's. The paper doesn't require more than that. The write times don't seem as long in this mode although I have not measured it (yet).

Still... As good a camera as the UZI it the E-20 does much better at keeping up for me.

Tommy

Mark said:

Tommy Martin said:

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and
highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several
shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until
it wore completely out.

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You may want to hold on to the UZI for a bit yet. Having owned an
E10, you may quickly find that the E20 will not keep up. Its been
reported quite often Write times are even LONGER than the E10.

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--Tommy

mmm... I was thinking that the E20 can only do 1.2 fps!!
the E-100rs is better suited for that with it's 15 fps.

Tommy Martin said:

I got the E-20 because I got a gig shooting local hockey and
highschool sports and needed something that would fire off several
shots quickly. Otherwise I would have been shooting the UZI until
it wore completely out.

Tommy

Juli Valley said:

I would hang on to it for awhile. You may find you need two
cameras for different situations.
--
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries
21oo, B-3oo
3o4o
Juli

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--
Tommy

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I really don't think that we'll see a 10x with a 3 or 4 mp camera. The reason I think this is because:

1. It would be cost prohibitive. The bulk of the cost of an Uzi is in the 10x lens. Add a higher mp camera and you'll price it completely out of range.

2. and possible more important...You have to be careful when you start crossing over the line from a consumer camera (which I think the Uzi is), and a Prosumer camera. If you make the Uzi too good, you begin hurting the sales of other high end cameras that are in the lineup.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 3.3 mp with a 10x optical lens, but I just don't see it happening.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

Brian said:

DogOfThunder said:

I would hang on to it as well...if it does turn out to be
discontinued, then once the remaining availability dries up, you
may find that it will have a higher resale value.

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--DogOfThunderNikon 8OO8, Pentax K-1OOO andOlympus C-21OOUZ

DogOfThunder said:

I really don't think that we'll see a 10x with a 3 or 4 mp camera.
The reason I think this is because:

1. It would be cost prohibitive. The bulk of the cost of an Uzi is
in the 10x lens. Add a higher mp camera and you'll price it
completely out of range.

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I suspect that the price range isn't as big a problem as the possibility that the prices would drop too quickly. In other words--consumers might be willing to buy the camera in a profitable price range, today, but not tomorrow.

Presumably, the cost of the image stabilized zoom lens is the real bottleneck. (Along with the need for a wider lens in order to project an image on a larger CCD chip.) The big problem is that, combined with only 3 megapixels, the profit margin won't be high enough because the 3 megapixel prices are being pushed down by the 4 megapixel cameras. Also, the 5 megapixel cameras will eventually squeeze the 4 megapixel prices. What would a new 3 megapixel UZI cost? Perhaps $800 (for now)?

I suspect that that's what killed the UZI's profitability. Although it's still one of the most expensive 2 megapixel cameras on the market, and deservedly so, it retails for only $500--which is probably close to the maximum that consumers are willing to pay for a 2 MP camera when 3 MPs are available at similar prices. The $500 price isn't enough to make the camera profitable with its special lens.

DogOfThunder said:

2. and possible more important...You have to be careful when you
start crossing over the line from a consumer camera (which I think
the Uzi is), and a Prosumer camera. If you make the Uzi too good,
you begin hurting the sales of other high end cameras that are in
the lineup.

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This is an excellent point I hadn't thought of.

I have an E-20 and UZI also and would give up my UZI both cameras
have the good points and I use both....If you sell the UZI you will
kicking your butt all the time...

According to the docs the E-20 will fire off 2.5 fps in IS mode and 4.5 in PS mode. Maybe the E-10 was 1.2. I don't know much about the E-10's specs.

2.5 is plenty fast to me. The E-100rs is a nice camera. I just hate the fact that it is only 1.5 mp.

After shooting hockey I can take the E-20 and make portraits, etc... and enlarge them without worrying about loosing clarity or pixelization in larger prints.

Tommy

Luis E Limon said:

mmm... I was thinking that the E20 can only do 1.2 fps!!
the E-100rs is better suited for that with it's 15 fps.

--Tommy

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Tommy Martin said:

I hope this is not too far off topic. I am not trying to sell it
here just solicit opinions about a fair price.

Thanks...
--
Tommy

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I just bought my new c-2100UZ this last weekend and paid $499 for it. Both Walmart and CompUSA are selling them at that price. Pricewise, you can go from there.

Ken-- )