Nikkor 70-200mm VR hockey pics

This weekend I also went and shot some hockey. I never left my seat though to try and get some better shots. At first I was down low and had to shoot through the plexi-glass which is a pain. During the last period I moved up higher and was able to shoot over the plexi. The results were much better after that point.

 
Very difficult situation... Try shooting tight and you will have less problem with white balance.

Lately I started using auto white balance and then instead correcting the white balance in Nikon Capture, I use the color correction tool in photoshop, I found that I can find the correct setting quicker than in Capture.

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Zalan Szabo
http://www.szabozalan.hu
 
Action on the ice is not really that fast movement..
you can follow the action AF-C and freeze the moment rather well at 1/250..
that's what I found out..
and, yes, I shoot sometimes from the bench, beside the players..
otherwise, I shoot from higher up the stands, just above the glass..

Lionel P
 
The single best way to deal with mercury vapor lights is not to. We bounce 4 White Lightning 1600s off the ceiling and trigger them with pocket wizards. Usually we get about f4 at ISO 200 with this setup which makes everything look tasty but the rink we shot in this weekend had a high, dark ceiling so we were only getting f2.8 at ISO 400, not so great but still better than the ambient light. The lights take about 3 seconds to recycle at full power so you have to pick your spots with the shutter but when your timing is on the pics look awesome. Usually our setup gives us results like this:







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-Kenny Jacobson
http://www.knjp.net
 
Action on the ice is not really that fast movement..
you can follow the action AF-C and freeze the moment rather well at
1/250..
that's what I found out..
and, yes, I shoot sometimes from the bench, beside the players..
otherwise, I shoot from higher up the stands, just above the glass..
Thanks for posting your technique, Lionel. I'll add that to my database. :-)

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my gallery of so-so photos
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Very difficult situation... Try shooting tight and you will have
less problem with white balance.
Lately I started using auto white balance and then instead
correcting the white balance in Nikon Capture, I use the color
correction tool in photoshop, I found that I can find the correct
setting quicker than in Capture.
Thanks, Zalan. I appreciate the info. :) I've been using ACR and finding the appropriate WB for the NEF convesion, then applying that to the rest of the images. Seems to works pretty fast, but I'll take a look at the CC tool as well.

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
The single best way to deal with mercury vapor lights is not to. We
bounce 4 White Lightning 1600s off the ceiling and trigger them
with pocket wizards. Usually we get about f4 at ISO 200 with this
setup which makes everything look tasty but the rink we shot in
this weekend had a high, dark ceiling so we were only getting f2.8
at ISO 400, not so great but still better than the ambient light.
Yeah, I hear you. Perhaps if this turns out to generate some decent money, I'll invest in some strobes. I'd much prefer using the settings you describe, to the ones I'm using now.... :-)
The lights take about 3 seconds to recycle at full power so you
have to pick your spots with the shutter but when your timing is on
the pics look awesome. Usually our setup gives us results like this:
Very cool shots, Kenny. I really like that one of the kid up in the air. :)

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
This weekend I also went and shot some hockey. I never left my seat
though to try and get some better shots. At first I was down low
and had to shoot through the plexi-glass which is a pain. During
the last period I moved up higher and was able to shoot over the
plexi. The results were much better after that point.
Very cool shot, Zelig! Yes, I'll have to explore that avenue. I like the perspective I get from the goal area, but don't like the issues associated with shooting through the glass.

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
at least the white balance option than in Capture. I had difficulties the correct the color cast in Capture, but in ACR you have a tint option if I remember correctly, so it is easier there. On the other hand I much prefer Capture's output, looks better, so I use color correction later :)

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Zalan Szabo
http://www.szabozalan.hu
 
at least the white balance option than in Capture. I had
difficulties the correct the color cast in Capture, but in ACR you
have a tint option if I remember correctly, so it is easier there.
On the other hand I much prefer Capture's output, looks better, so
I use color correction later :)
I understand and agree, for small amounts of images. But for sports, I'm shooting 300-400 frames per game. I don't want to spend a ton of time later, especially on the hockey photos, in post processing for the little gains to be had with using capture first. Of course, I could be missing something too. :-)

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
Personally I rarely process more than 6 images from a given game, I concentrate on the best shots. I keep the files which are ok, but noone will look through 3-400 images so I show them only the best. Also I doubt that all the 3-400 are very good images, technically they might be good, but not from the artistic side.

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Zalan Szabo
http://www.szabozalan.hu
 
Personally I rarely process more than 6 images from a given game, I
concentrate on the best shots. I keep the files which are ok, but
noone will look through 3-400 images so I show them only the best.
Also I doubt that all the 3-400 are very good images, technically
they might be good, but not from the artistic side.
Yes, that's true. I do pretty much the same thing, but I'm not looking for artistic stuff. I am taking the photos to sell to the parents. They want to see their kids in action. That means I have to take a lot of photos of as many players as possible. If I do more than one game, it gets way out of hand. :-)

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
You must have had that lens on backwards, the players look a little small?

:)

Here's the game I went to Fri:





There were some odd players on the ice at my game, too:



A zoomed out view from our seats:



I didn't have my D200, just our point and shoot SD800. The perspex was indeed quite scratched. You really wanted to use the "lens hole" the press photogs use... But it was taken.

I'm going again Fri. and I think I'll take my D200/18-200VR combo. I'm sitting up higher so the shots should be clearer. You did good!
 
You must have had that lens on backwards, the players look a little
small?
Yeah, it's a rather unique perspective. :-)
I didn't have my D200, just our point and shoot SD800. The perspex
was indeed quite scratched. You really wanted to use the "lens
hole" the press photogs use... But it was taken.
I noticed that the glass looked pretty bad, actually as bad as the cheap rinks I've been to so far. I'd be kinda unhappy with paying good money to watch a game through that stuff.... Haven't seen a "lens hole" in the glass at the 2 rinks I've attended.

Although, I must say that you did have some "attractions" at your game that was conspicuously absent at mine. :-)
I'm going again Fri. and I think I'll take my D200/18-200VR combo.
I'm sitting up higher so the shots should be clearer. You did good!
Thanks! :) Good luck with the better seating. I'm going to try that myself, when the situation permits.

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my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
Nah, I wasn't unhappy; in practice your eye adjusts for things that look pretty nasty on-camera. our eyes are truly amazing.

I like being up by the glass... It's really intense!

The photog holes are typically in the corners fairly even with the goalie. I actually had a photo:



That photographer got DRILLED: he was "sticking out" and trying to shoot a play when he was drilled by a couple of players on a hard check. I don't know what he was thinking: he was looking right at them, they had to look HUGE in that monster pump zoom. He was rubbing his eye for a long time after that.

Check around for those press photographer holes, they may be there for your use.

I have sat up a bit farther and more towards the middle and used my old Canon 70-200L; it was a much better vantage point for hockey pics, for sure.

Good luck! I bet you can make a good amount of cash selling those photos.
 
Thanks for posting that Kerry.... You must have some really good light in that arena. Those are pretty well exposed for 1/350-500 f2.8-4 @ ISO 1250. I'm not getting results that good with my 80-200 which is similarily capable glass to the 70-200.

I'm going to the same settings in a couple of different arenas and see what I come up with. I'll post back here. I should be shooting on thursday night.

Talk to you soon... and thanks again!
Tim
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D80, 24-120 VR, Tamron 90mm, Nikon 80-200 2.8 AF-D, SB-800
Gear up..... Get out there!!!
 

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