G-2 new firmware 1.0.1.0 improvements ONLY

blulegend · Jan 22, 2002

Canon probably adjusts settings and creates new firmware versions and builds all the time while not releasing them until a necessary fix requires a release.

Canon will likely only document to the public fixes that are necessary for function. Not enhancements to functions already working.

-Jack

bhays said:
bhays said:

The manual focus zoom window looks much clearer and easier to tell
if the subject is sharp or blurry.

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I agree, I had a hard time in the past with the manual focus for
this reason. It looks much better to me know...

If canon meant to make these extra changes, why wouldnt they
mention it?

-ben
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http://www.brhphoto.com

---Jack==================Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/blulegend/Curr: Canon PowerShot G2Prev: CP995, CP880, S10, S20, Oly D-340R

blulegend · Jan 22, 2002

Also note that the firmware is not 1.0.0.2 or similar, it is 1.0.1.0

-Jack

blulegend said:
Canon will likely only document to the public fixes that are
necessary for function. Not enhancements to functions already
working.

-Jack

bhays said:

blulegend said:

The manual focus zoom window looks much clearer and easier to tell
if the subject is sharp or blurry.

Click to expand...

I agree, I had a hard time in the past with the manual focus for
this reason. It looks much better to me know...

If canon meant to make these extra changes, why wouldnt they
mention it?

-ben
--
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http://www.brhphoto.com

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--
-Jack
==================
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/blulegend/
Curr: Canon PowerShot G2
Prev: CP995, CP880, S10, S20, Oly D-340R

---Jack==================Galleries: 1) http://www.pbase.com/blulegend/ 2) http://www.photoaccess.com/share/guest.jsp?ID=AB8C5232351&cb=PACurr: Canon PowerShot G2Prev: CP995, CP880, S10, S20, Oly D-340R

Rado · Jan 22, 2002

I think they may have implemented some of the improvements observed in S30/S40 by reviewers.

Rado

UCSDxB0i · Jan 22, 2002

Oh when did Canon put up this Firmware update? Shucks... I just went back to school in SD and dont have my camera with me... Now I have to wait 2 weeks before I can actually try this update... Grrr... I cant wait...

SO no go on the 5X optical zoom? Really? the G2 has a 5X optical zoom but its restricted to 3X?? Why is that? I never knew.

HSH said:
I have read so many threads in this forum about this new firmware
but none focused on findings of the likely improvements. I'll
list them below what other users have reported:

1) Battery charging fixed - official statement
2) Focus faster
3) Puts it in ready mode quicker when first switched on
4) One thread claims G2's flash is now more powerful (?)
5) One thread claims it has increased the optical zoom to 5X
without any hardware upgrade (???)

Anything else in
1) color handling
2) sharpness
3) focus in dark settings
4) flash light accuracy
5) Macro
6) handling of WB
7) Anything that you found but not listed

Matt Gannon · Jan 22, 2002

Alan,

How do you get the 5x Zoom from the update? It appears that some people get it and others do not. Any ideas.

Also, how did you hack the firmware? Could you tell me how to do the same?

Thanks,
Matt.

ALan Fairley said:
Tony 'Trog' Lau said:

OldDigiman said:

5) One thread claims it has increased the optical zoom to 5X
without any hardware upgrade (???)

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That's certainly a joke.

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No joke, plus I hacked the firmware before I uploaded it and got
10x optical zoom.

;-/

Alan

Matt Gannon · Jan 22, 2002

I want to know more about the 5x Zoom, or is this just meant to be a joke?

Matt.

HSH said:
I have read so many threads in this forum about this new firmware
but none focused on findings of the likely improvements. I'll
list them below what other users have reported:

1) Battery charging fixed - official statement
2) Focus faster
3) Puts it in ready mode quicker when first switched on
4) One thread claims G2's flash is now more powerful (?)
5) One thread claims it has increased the optical zoom to 5X
without any hardware upgrade (???)

Anything else in
1) color handling
2) sharpness
3) focus in dark settings
4) flash light accuracy
5) Macro
6) handling of WB
7) Anything that you found but not listed

blulegend · Jan 22, 2002

Matt Gannon said:
Matt.

HSH said:

I have read so many threads in this forum about this new firmware
but none focused on findings of the likely improvements. I'll
list them below what other users have reported:

1) Battery charging fixed - official statement
2) Focus faster
3) Puts it in ready mode quicker when first switched on
4) One thread claims G2's flash is now more powerful (?)
5) One thread claims it has increased the optical zoom to 5X
without any hardware upgrade (???)

Anything else in
1) color handling
2) sharpness
3) focus in dark settings
4) flash light accuracy
5) Macro
6) handling of WB
7) Anything that you found but not listed

Click to expand...

---Jack==================Galleries: 1) http://www.pbase.com/blulegend/ 2) http://www.photoaccess.com/share/guest.jsp?ID=AB8C5232351&cb=PACurr: Canon PowerShot G2Prev: CP995, CP880, S10, S20, Oly D-340R

Martin Stefanus Tedjawardhana · Jan 22, 2002

I cant believe this... so many people fell in to that

Emese Gaal · Jan 22, 2002

Have I got a bridge to sell you...

-Emese--Pics: http://www.pbase.com/egaal/galleries

NickD · Jan 22, 2002

I just performed the firmware upgrade on my G2, I hate to be the odd one out but I really cannot notice any change in either the focus speed or the quality of the MF. It does appear that the images are somewhat sharper ie better focused but this could be my imagination.

Incidentally, scott professional reports the firmware as 1.01B whereas ZB states it as 1.0.1.0

Nick

Dave.L said:
Louis Dagenais said:

HSH said:

I have read so many threads in this forum about this new firmware
but none focused on findings of the likely improvements. I'll
list them below what other users have reported:
...

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Has anyone checked manual focusing yet?

The zoomed picture seems a lot clearer than in the past. The last
time I tried using manual focus was some weeks ago, but I remember
being less than impressed with the image. If anyone has not yet
upgraded, check the quality of the zoomed up image in manual focus
mode before and after the firmware upgrade.

Cheers,

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Just checked manual focusing. Maybe because I dont believe all
these claims about this amazing firmware upgrade.

But then again you might be right.

Regards

Dave. L

Dave.L said:

--
Louis

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Sastra · Jan 22, 2002

Is it possible to do direct print for A4 size printer as in S30/40?

Sastra

Rado said:
I think they may have implemented some of the improvements observed
in S30/S40 by reviewers.

Rado

--Sastra

warren prasek · Jan 22, 2002

Sorry to be abrupt, but honestly I am totally flabbergasted that anyone could possibly believe the whole 5x zoom thing. IT IS A JOKE!!!!! dear god...

Read my lips people ( i know most of you are smart enough to know better, if so please ignore, but for those who don't...)

OPTICAL ZOOM IS A HARDWARE FEATURE!!!!

THE PHYSICAL LENS MUST BE DRIVEN IN AND OUT BY A MOTOR. Canon's new firmware does not magically, wonderfully transform the glass and steel/plastic of your camera. If it did, they would probably have invented a matter transporter and hyperspace drive by now too.

Canon can no more make your G2 a 5 megapixel or 8 megapixel camera via firmware than it can "upgrade" your optical zoom! Digital zoom is another matter- that is SOFTWARE, not hardware. So please stop asking!!!

Sheesh!

--------------------------------------i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

Willie G. · Jan 22, 2002

Definitely faster here. Wow, like zero wait time. I don't get a green box any more often, but the camera makes it's decision immediately... very impressive. Now, why would Canon not reveal the full spektrum of what the upgrade did? Is that normal?

Willie

coelcanth said:
Without a doubt, the focusing is faster than it originally was...
maybe you are just snapping pictures... but when I half depress the
shutter to get a focus and exposure lock the focus box turns green
and the camera is ready to shoot much faster than it would have
before the update.

I really am surprised everyone isn't noticing this right away--Willie G.Kulmbach. GermanyCanon G2- my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss - http://www.pbase.com/effzee

Willie G. · Jan 22, 2002

Member said:
Has anyone checked manual focusing yet?

The zoomed picture seems a lot clearer than in the past. The last
time I tried using manual focus was some weeks ago, but I remember
being less than impressed with the image. If anyone has not yet
upgraded, check the quality of the zoomed up image in manual focus
mode before and after the firmware upgrade.

Definitely. I use MF a lot, though I had't tried it after the upgrade till you mentioned it. WOW, it's very, very clear. Oh boy.. what else is there to discover? I sense even more CP5k owners will be switching sides soon...

Dang, I just believed the statement from Canon about the battery problem fix and wondered WHY the update should be 1.5Mb... smiling in Germany,--Willie G.Kulmbach. GermanyCanon G2- my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss - http://www.pbase.com/effzee

warren prasek · Jan 22, 2002

My camera has the red "1" stamped inside the battery door, indicating the new firmware is already installed (v1.01) so i apparently already had all these fantastic new improvements right from when i received my G2, just before christmas...

gotta admit though, i personally think MF sucks...so i hate to think what you guys were all putting up with before now. similarly, i don't think the AF is particularly fast, like all other non-SLR digicams it is slow and unreliable, esp. in low light.

wonder if these things really happened or is there some form of group hysteria/ "firmware placebo effect" here??? i guess i can't say seeing as i've always had these "features"....

any other original 1.01 owners out there thinking this too?

effzee said:
Willie G. said:

Has anyone checked manual focusing yet?

The zoomed picture seems a lot clearer than in the past. The last
time I tried using manual focus was some weeks ago, but I remember
being less than impressed with the image. If anyone has not yet
upgraded, check the quality of the zoomed up image in manual focus
mode before and after the firmware upgrade.

Click to expand...

Definitely. I use MF a lot, though I had't tried it after the
upgrade till you mentioned it. WOW, it's very, very clear. Oh boy..
what else is there to discover? I sense even more CP5k owners will
be switching sides soon...

Dang, I just believed the statement from Canon about the battery
problem fix and wondered WHY the update should be 1.5Mb... smiling
in Germany,
--
Willie G.
Kulmbach. Germany
Canon G2

my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss -

http://www.pbase.com/effzee

--------------------------------------i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

Willie G. · Jan 22, 2002

I think the AF light has a wider effective range, i.e., it stays inside the AF box over a wider range than beforehand. I'd swear that's the case, but it seems the aim of the light would be hard-fixed. Can someone please confirm or not?

rshhung said:
2) Focus faster

yes!

rshhung said:
3) Puts it in ready mode quicker when first switched on

yes

rshhung said:
4) One thread claims G2's flash is now more powerful (?)

yes, very. And doesn't overexpose like before. I'll post an example pic i just took.

rshhung said:
5) One thread claims it has increased the optical zoom to 5X

let it go... lmao

)

And I have to say DEFINITELY I'm getting quicker and BETTER low-light focusing. I just aimed at a door down a dim hallway and got a green AF box in no time. I really don't think I would have gotten that before. Dang, I wish there were a way to do a before/after test...

rshhung said:
Anything else in

rshhung said:
5) Macro

could be, could be. I just manuallly focussed on the logo on my minitor, seems i got closer than I could beforehand. The MF screen is so much better, though (how do they do THAT through firmware?) that maybe I've got it wrong.

rshhung said:
6) handling of WB

LOOKS the same as before. Have to experiment a bit...

--Willie G.Kulmbach. GermanyCanon G2- my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss - http://www.pbase.com/effzee

NickD · Jan 22, 2002

I think its a case of the latter.

Nick

Warren Prasek said:
gotta admit though, i personally think MF sucks...so i hate to
think what you guys were all putting up with before now. similarly,
i don't think the AF is particularly fast, like all other non-SLR
digicams it is slow and unreliable, esp. in low light.

wonder if these things really happened or is there some form of
group hysteria/ "firmware placebo effect" here??? i guess i can't
say seeing as i've always had these "features"....

any other original 1.01 owners out there thinking this too?

effzee said:

warren prasek said:

Has anyone checked manual focusing yet?

The zoomed picture seems a lot clearer than in the past. The last
time I tried using manual focus was some weeks ago, but I remember
being less than impressed with the image. If anyone has not yet
upgraded, check the quality of the zoomed up image in manual focus
mode before and after the firmware upgrade.

Click to expand...

Definitely. I use MF a lot, though I had't tried it after the
upgrade till you mentioned it. WOW, it's very, very clear. Oh boy..
what else is there to discover? I sense even more CP5k owners will
be switching sides soon...

Dang, I just believed the statement from Canon about the battery
problem fix and wondered WHY the update should be 1.5Mb... smiling
in Germany,
--
Willie G.
Kulmbach. Germany
Canon G2

my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss -

http://www.pbase.com/effzee

Click to expand...

--
------------------------------------
i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

Willie G. · Jan 22, 2002

warren prasek said:
wonder if these things really happened or is there some form of
group hysteria/ "firmware placebo effect" here??? i guess i can't
say seeing as i've always had these "features"....

any other original 1.01 owners out there thinking this too?

No, it's real. There's no way to prove it to you, of course, but just ask what they stuffed into 1.5Mb of firmware. It wasn't just a battery charger update.

The AF and MF improvements are no illusion. Ditto the start-up and flash power...

you don't like the MF window? it's crystal clear now. Or doyou mean the basic function of the thing? It's sill clumsy...

--Willie G.Kulmbach. GermanyCanon G2- my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss - http://www.pbase.com/effzee

Kola · Jan 22, 2002

Warren Prasek said:
My camera has the red "1" stamped inside the battery door,
indicating the new firmware is already installed (v1.01) so i
apparently already had all these fantastic new improvements right
from when i received my G2, just before christmas...

gotta admit though, i personally think MF sucks...so i hate to
think what you guys were all putting up with before now. similarly,
i don't think the AF is particularly fast, like all other non-SLR
digicams it is slow and unreliable, esp. in low light.

wonder if these things really happened or is there some form of
group hysteria/ "firmware placebo effect" here??? i guess i can't
say seeing as i've always had these "features"....

any other original 1.01 owners out there thinking this too?

Yup, I got G2-1.0.1.0 a month ago. MF zoom window is almost useless, focus speed is reasonable but its accuracy is just a hit or miss.

Cheers,
Kola

NickD · Jan 22, 2002

effzee

I upgraded earlier this evening after having read probably 100+ post from previous upgraders. I knew what to look for and was in a good position to do a before and after comparison. I am not yet convinced about any of the speculated changes to the firmware. Although some of the test shots I took indoors seemed to be quite well focussed and crisp. I will need to do more testing during the daylight hours to see if there are any real changes.

Nick

Willie G. said:
Willie G. said:

wonder if these things really happened or is there some form of
group hysteria/ "firmware placebo effect" here??? i guess i can't
say seeing as i've always had these "features"....

any other original 1.01 owners out there thinking this too?

Click to expand...

No, it's real. There's no way to prove it to you, of course, but
just ask what they stuffed into 1.5Mb of firmware. It wasn't just a
battery charger update.

The AF and MF improvements are no illusion. Ditto the start-up and
flash power...

you don't like the MF window? it's crystal clear now. Or doyou
mean the basic function of the thing? It's sill clumsy...

--
Willie G.
Kulmbach. Germany
Canon G2

my eyeglasses are from Carl Zeiss -

http://www.pbase.com/effzee

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