Pentax K10D grip?

Hey Folks (first posts)

I am thinking about buying the K10D when it is released. I now use a Canon 350D and D60, both with battery grip. The K10D also has a battery grip, but apart from the battery and other stuff compartment does it feature a thingie for the handstrap?

Because the D200 does not have this, and it's quite a flaw. I have not yet seen any picture which shows the bottom side of the grip...

I dont think it has.

By the way, why it is quite a flaw?

Wouldnt that be quite a minor issue when you are choosing a camera?

Convenient in some cased if it exists, but not at all any kind of show stopper.
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Harri

Well, I don't like the feeling of the neckstrap around my neck all the time, and I do hipshooting, or hold the camera up high to get an overall shot, or I have to have the cam reading and 'run' to the subject. For me it is a design flaw, maybe for others it isn't.

Harri R'is'nen said:

I dont think it has.

By the way, why it is quite a flaw?

Wouldnt that be quite a minor issue when you are choosing a camera?

Convenient in some cased if it exists, but not at all any kind of
show stopper.
--
Harri

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I Talked w/ John at the NYC show last week about this. They are wondering too why no strap lug in the grip. They agree its inconvient and a smi-flaw. Jpan won't give an answer.

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I Want my, I want my , I want my K10D
(oh and of course Get MY money for nothin and chicks for free

Simon de la Court said:

Well, I don't like the feeling of the neckstrap around my neck all
the time, and I do hipshooting, or hold the camera up high to get
an overall shot, or I have to have the cam reading and 'run' to the
subject. For me it is a design flaw, maybe for others it isn't.

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Sorry, but I didnt understand....

I do not either keep the strap around my neck all the time. Actually I do it quite seldom. It is instead usually hanging on my shoulder.

Do you mean that K10D should have grip strap?

Or do you mean it should be able to hang vertically from other end of the body, old LX style? I thought you ment this later possibility.

Lacking of grip strap is a flaw, possibility to hang it vertically is not.

Actually I installed long ago an lug for grip strap to *ist D grip.

It wasnt good idea at all.

Let me explain why:

I have had an Pentax PZ-1p and grip with grip strap. it was perfect, it fitted to my hand just like a dream. Neck strap was seldom needed. I have had also one old Minolta DSLR with same kind of attachment. Not so perfect as PZ-1, but good enough.

With *ist D I notized that the camera has to also be designed for use of grip trap.

Although I installed an lug for trap, I couldnt find or make proper strap for it. It was allways uncomfortable and buttons were not under your fingers... you can believe I tried several combinations and settings. So I rejected whole idea and use normal neckstrap nowadays.....

Pentax has knowlwdge to make perfect grips and grip strap attachments and designs (PZ-1p), but just as you I wonder why they dont do so.

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Harri

The lack of a strap attachment on the K10D grip is definately dissapointing given how easily it could have been implemented. I am a total convert to the handstrap - I've had too many near misses with the neckstrap catching. Certainly a handstrap can be a little restrictive but it is something you can adapt to with a bit of practice.

This is not a big deal. Just get a Hakuba Grip-LH and fit it to the camera...

*ist DS + DA21 + Hakuba Grip-LH

Godfrey said:

This is not a big deal. Just get a Hakuba Grip-LH and fit it to the
camera...

*ist DS + DA21 + Hakuba Grip-LH

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No, it is a big deal. Those third party grip straps are not good solution if camera grip is not designed for a grip strap. You cannot get firm grasp and have same time needed buttons under your fingers.

To get good solution camera has to be designed for grip strap.

Adding one afterwards to a camera not designed for it is lousy solution copared to well designed complete one (PZ-1p). I have tried in my *ist D PZ-1p strap, Minolta strap, Hakuba strap and some self designed ones. And my conclusion is that even the lug in the body near shutter button is wrogly located for a grip strap. You cannot twist your finger to the shutter button without loosening the strap so much that it do not support your hand anymore properly. And even loose strap presses your hand at wrong points and forces your hand and fingers to a painful positions....

Afterwards added grip straps are lousy solution if you know how good one works.....

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Harri

Simon de la Court said:

Well, I don't like the feeling of the neckstrap around my neck all
the time, and I do hipshooting, or hold the camera up high to get
an overall shot, or I have to have the cam reading and 'run' to the
subject. For me it is a design flaw, maybe for others it isn't.

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I don't agree with you, it is not a flaw at all, it is just something lacking of feature to your personal preference out of million of other users.

Harri R'is'nen said:

... Afterwards added grip straps are lousy solution if you know how
good one works.....

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Sorry, I've had both and have not see any difference in use. I have seen a difference in price: the strap and pad for one of my cameras that had a factory supplied hand strap were three times the cost of what I'm using now.

Godfrey

Godfrey said:

Harri R'is'nen said:

... Afterwards added grip straps are lousy solution if you know how
good one works.....

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Sorry, I've had both and have not see any difference in use. I have
seen a difference in price: the strap and pad for one of my cameras
that had a factory supplied hand strap were three times the cost of
what I'm using now.

Godfrey

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Different opinions are a richness in the world

Well designed, and praised also by many others than me, PZ-1 grip strap system is far ahead of all others I have tried.

I rejected all those sad systems I tried in my *ist D and use now only traditional leather neck strap. Perhaps I will try those in K10D, but not expect any brilliant results. Hope still lives, but if it is not originally designed the use of grip strap in mind.....

Most cases if you want good and cheap item, you have to buy two, the good one and the cheap one. I would be pleased if the good one exists even if it is expensive.

If you are satisfied with Hakuba, it is very good for you.

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Harri

Don't straps just get in the way...

I find that the way the Grip on the camera is good, i can never drop the thing unless i open my hand, and looking at the strap solutions, the same result would occur.
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Not long now till i get a special K ... 10D

Info thread for new Pentax SLR users:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=19455961

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Real photographers don't use straps anyway!

;-)