STFers Help needed on 707 with Sony Wide Angle Lens

Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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Tom Ferguson said:

Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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--
Tom Ferguson
http://www.ferguson-photo-design.com
F707 Studio Info Page:
http://www.pipeline.com/~tomf2468/temp1.html

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Danton Pace said:

Tom Ferguson said:

Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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--
Tom Ferguson
http://www.ferguson-photo-design.com
F707 Studio Info Page:
http://www.pipeline.com/~tomf2468/temp1.html

Click to expand...

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Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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jjwred7 said:

I have NO idea what I could be doing wrong. Hopefully it was just
a one time occurence, and I did something wrong. OTHERWISE the
lens is very disappointing.

Does the Sony lens require very bright lighting? And would flash
or night photography EVER be possible with it? I suppose I could
adjust the EV settings next time...but I really didnt think the
lighting was inadequate.

So far, not nearly as useful as I had hoped.

Thanks again all!!!

Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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soli said:

jjwred7 said:

I have NO idea what I could be doing wrong. Hopefully it was just
a one time occurence, and I did something wrong. OTHERWISE the
lens is very disappointing.

Does the Sony lens require very bright lighting? And would flash
or night photography EVER be possible with it? I suppose I could
adjust the EV settings next time...but I really didnt think the
lighting was inadequate.

So far, not nearly as useful as I had hoped.

Thanks again all!!!

Jon Walker said:

Hello All. Long time reader and long time fan, but havent used my
Dark Angel much yet.

Here is my story and the help that I need. I just got back from
London and of course took the 707 to take some pics in Phil's
homeland. I learned many valuable lessons (like have a TRI-pod with
you when taking longer exposures!! lol) with the cam while I was
there. Most of the problems I figured out what was wrong (like the
blur without the tripod), but ONE in particular has me COMPLETELY
perplexed (not that hard to do obviously!!).

My wonderful BIG Sony WIde Angle Lens that looks SO good on the
camera. I have to admit it was funny being a tourist there, once I
put the wide angle lens on, EVERYONE suddenly began asking me
technical questions about THEIR cameras!! As you can/will see from
this posting I am FAR FAR FAR from an expert. Although I have to
admit it was kind of cute!

Needless to say ALL of my pics with the Wide Angles lens on turned
out DARK and Blurry (nice combination huh!!). It was a CONSISTENT
problem.

Can you wonderful STFers please explain to this novice WHAT I might
be doing wrong and WHAT the secret to using the wide angle lens
is...PLEASE????

I do believe I had changed the Conversion Lens setting to ON. I
have probably tried to take 30 pics with the Wide Angle on and they
ALWAYS turn out that way. Besides Canceling the Flash and changing
the Conversion Lens setting is there anything else I am supposed to
do?? I even tried manual focus and those turned out just as blurry.
Does one have to have SUPER LIGHTING to use the Wide Angle Lens?

Thank you ALL in advance for your help on this issue. I read the
forum quite regularly and really enjoy it...now if I could JUST get
you guys to actually TAKE the pics for me!!!

Jon

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Try using the macro setting and leave the conversion lens off, I
think you will be able to use flash ,(external or the WA will get
in the way with built in flash), hope this will help.
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soli

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Maik Fietko said:

When you set Conversion Lens to "on" in the Camera Menu the camera
will go into macro mode and aperture will be limited to 4-8, Zoom,
Nightshot and Nightframing will be disabled.
An aperture of 4 means longer shutter speeds compared to 2, but in
full auto mode the shutter speed is limited to 1/30s or faster.
That means that the shots may be darker if the light level is low,
but they shouldnt be blurry.
If you didnt set Conversion Lens to "on" in the menu the shots will
be blurry because the camera cant focus, you have to turn on macro
mode manually.
If the shot turns out to be dark you should use aperture priority
mode and use a tripod because the shutter speed will be below 1/30,
maybe 1/10 or whatever. Dont forget to turn on macro mode. That way
you will get correctly exposed images.
I have Conversion Lens set to "off" all the time because it sucks
to always turn it on or off in the menu whether i use the Sony WW
converter or not.
I have made some shot withs aperture 2, 6 and 8 and i havent seen
much of a difference compared to 4. Not in landscape shots. It also
possible to use a little zoom if you like, up to 1/3 of the total
focal length.

Hope this helps

Maik

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