Curiousity Poll: How many people here have sold their SD10 and brought a Canon 5D?

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I was just enquiring someone who was selling their SD10 and what camera they got now and they said they brought a Canon 5D.

I am just curious how many other people have gone this route.

Sharp.
 
I was just enquiring someone who was selling their SD10 and what
camera they got now and they said they brought a Canon 5D.

I am just curious how many other people have gone this route.

Sharp.
I sold all bayer cams to order SD14, troll.

Hung
 
but I still use my SD10 because I like the IQ. But I have read the manual for both cameras.
 
Because the 5D's sensor has the same size photosites as the SD10's sensor, it's easy to compare the two; an SD10 image is a center crop of the same scene shot with the same focal length on a 5D. Pixel for pixel, the 5D's image quality is FAR lower.

If I were going for the ultimate in a 12 MP Bayer camera, the D2x is the obvious choice, in that it resolves more than either the 5D or the 1DSMKII. However, it starts getting diffraction-limited above f/8.

I'm looking forward to the SD14... and I'm really looking forward to the next-generation SDxx with 6 to 8 MP photosites and a 1.4x crop factor. Now THAT will be one sharp camera.

--
'Do you think a man can change his destiny?'
'I think a man does what he can until his destiny is revealed.'
 
Because the 5D's sensor has the same size photosites as the SD10's
sensor, it's easy to compare the two; an SD10 image is a center
crop of the same scene shot with the same focal length on a 5D.
Pixel for pixel, the 5D's image quality is FAR lower.
Outside the SD10 does a nice job pixel by pixel. Fewer pixels is a big processing speed advantage.

In low available light the 1 is the best dSLR even pixel for pixel. DPP RAW color in low light exceeds real life. The 5D is close but not a perfect match to 1 quality color. 13MP raises the 5D to 1D low light noise performance. If you reduce a 5D picture to 3MP low light 1600 is close to 100.

The SD10 is noisy fuzzy and goes color blind in low light. Indoor pictures are the worst I've seen from a digital SLR. These cameras don't compare.

I'm not a Nikon user but I usually prefer Canon color and noise to the Sony versions. Even so the D2X can take a good picture inside.
 
What brought you back for more Sigma bashing?
Because the 5D's sensor has the same size photosites as the SD10's
sensor, it's easy to compare the two; an SD10 image is a center
crop of the same scene shot with the same focal length on a 5D.
Pixel for pixel, the 5D's image quality is FAR lower.
Outside the SD10 does a nice job pixel by pixel. Fewer pixels is a
big processing speed advantage.

In low available light the 1 is the best dSLR even pixel for pixel.
DPP RAW color in low light exceeds real life. The 5D is close but
not a perfect match to 1 quality color. 13MP raises the 5D to 1D
low light noise performance. If you reduce a 5D picture to 3MP low
light 1600 is close to 100.

The SD10 is noisy fuzzy and goes color blind in low light. Indoor
pictures are the worst I've seen from a digital SLR. These cameras
don't compare.

I'm not a Nikon user but I usually prefer Canon color and noise to
the Sony versions. Even so the D2X can take a good picture inside.
--
Laurence

My idea of good company is the fellowship of clever, well-informed people, who have a great deal of conversation and liberality of ideas.

Jane Austen

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/root
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/root
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd10
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd9
http://www.beachbriss.com
 
I was just enquiring someone who was selling their SD10 and what
camera they got now and they said they brought a Canon 5D.

I am just curious how many other people have gone this route.
Yeah, I'm kind of a curious type, so I took my 3 SD cameras to the local dealer for a 'swap' adventure. We agreed to trade even: 3 of mine for his Canon 5D, used of course by a photographer who traded it in for a D200.

But part of the deal was that I could reswap within a month if I wasn't satisfied. ... Turned out I hated working with this camera. I just couldn't get used to it. No sex appeal in that camera, and that overly technical sound of the shutter made me shake every time like when you drag a nail over a chalkboard, uhhh! The camera seemed made for technogadgetpeople, you know the ones with big 4-wheelers and computeraided homes - and not for real photographers of flesh and blood with real emotions and a passionate feel for the world!

And the image quality I could get out of it was just bad. Really bad. Worse than any I've seen presented on pbase. I talked to the dealer about it and he found out I was referring to fullsize images. 'Nobody displays full size, he said, and you have to use a lot of sharpening too, how come you don't? Everybody knows that, he said, looking over his glasses'. ...

It now turned out he had sold my SD9 and one SD10 to some eager customers, - because there's a growing awareness of the Sigma superiority over Canon among photographers, he added - but he was willing to take back the 5D and give me my last SD10 back and the SD14, when it arrives here. Yes, I said, deal done, and I handed over the crappy thing. So now I'm looking forward to receiving the SD14 as much as everybody else here, probably at Christmas and at least at my birthday which is late Marc:-). - Canon 5D - don't say that word near me or I'll grab for my umbrella and stab at your lenses!

Ole
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http://www.pbase.com/thofte
 
ole thofte wrote:
??????????????????????????
OLE !!! you are only joking aren´t you ???????
A 5D !!!!

In my humble opinion this is the worst camera ever produced..... the cheapest 300D is much, much better....
I was just enquiring someone who was selling their SD10 and what
camera they got now and they said they brought a Canon 5D.

I am just curious how many other people have gone this route.
Yeah, I'm kind of a curious type, so I took my 3 SD cameras to the
local dealer for a 'swap' adventure. We agreed to trade even: 3 of
mine for his Canon 5D, used of course by a photographer who traded
it in for a D200.

But part of the deal was that I could reswap within a month if I
wasn't satisfied. ... Turned out I hated working with this camera.
I just couldn't get used to it. No sex appeal in that camera, and
that overly technical sound of the shutter made me shake every time
like when you drag a nail over a chalkboard, uhhh! The camera
seemed made for technogadgetpeople, you know the ones with big
4-wheelers and computeraided homes - and not for real photographers
of flesh and blood with real emotions and a passionate feel for the
world!

And the image quality I could get out of it was just bad. Really
bad. Worse than any I've seen presented on pbase. I talked to the
dealer about it and he found out I was referring to fullsize
images. 'Nobody displays full size, he said, and you have to use a
lot of sharpening too, how come you don't? Everybody knows that, he
said, looking over his glasses'. ...

It now turned out he had sold my SD9 and one SD10 to some eager
customers, - because there's a growing awareness of the Sigma
superiority over Canon among photographers, he added - but he was
willing to take back the 5D and give me my last SD10 back and the
SD14, when it arrives here. Yes, I said, deal done, and I handed
over the crappy thing. So now I'm looking forward to receiving the
SD14 as much as everybody else here, probably at Christmas and at
least at my birthday which is late Marc:-). - Canon 5D - don't
say that word near me or I'll grab for my umbrella and stab at your
lenses!

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
 
Hi Frits, I had to do something to get you out of the bush or whereever you were. Did you see my golden eagle shot. It was a pair of eagles circling over Roskilde yesterday.... And about the 5D: it's an expensive camera, so it's got to be good, right :-) (kryds fingre)

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
 
I sold my SD10 when I purchased the Canon 5D.

Couple of reasons.

1. I wasn't using it mainly because of number 2.

2. The 5D handling is far better than the SD10.

3. Data writing to the card is much faster, which means my clients don't have to wait too long to have a quick preview.

4. Canon's future is certain where as Sigma just took too long to anounce their new model and I couldn't afford to wait any longer.

5. Image qaulity is more than good enough for my work and I can easily produce 24" * 36" High Quality Prints.

The Sigma however wasn't all bad, it did have that amazing image quality which always reminded me of 35mm Slides. Which I like a lot.

I hope the SD14 does well and Sigma carry producing newer models, I may come back one day. I will certainly take a look at the SD14 when its out.

--
Cheers

Mart. :o)
 
Hi Frits, I had to do something to get you out of the bush or
whereever you were. Did you see my golden eagle shot. It was a pair
of eagles circling over Roskilde yesterday.... And about the 5D:
it's an expensive camera, so it's got to be good, right :-) (kryds
fingre)

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
It wasn´t nessescary to got o such extremes ... to get me out of the bush...

If i understand you corectly , you got rid of that monstrocity (5D) again ???
Yes i saw your eagle ... am i jealous ?.... hmmm , no comment :)
 
Hi Frits, I had to do something to get you out of the bush or
whereever you were. Did you see my golden eagle shot. It was a pair
of eagles circling over Roskilde yesterday.... And about the 5D:
it's an expensive camera, so it's got to be good, right :-) (kryds
fingre)

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
It wasn´t nessescary to got o such extremes ... to get me out of
the bush...

If i understand you corectly , you got rid of that monstrocity (5D)
again ???
Yes i saw your eagle ... am i jealous ?.... hmmm , no comment :)
Frits, come on now ... would I ever tell white lies? would I ever get a 5D, no I wouldn't but I tried to work through a buy in fiction form, to remove any temptations:-) Is this thread as many others threads by Sharpvision silly and probably a troll-thread? Are some of us tired of this long line of stupid comparisons, comparisons, comparisons? Does it bring anything interesting: NO!

I actually thought you were overworking to save for the SD14 + DP!; would be sensible. Is that Canonprinter expensive in inks, by the way?

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
 
What brought you back for more Sigma bashing?
I have no idea what you are talking about Mr. Matsen.
Because the 5D's sensor has the same size photosites as the SD10's
sensor, it's easy to compare the two; an SD10 image is a center
crop of the same scene shot with the same focal length on a 5D.
Pixel for pixel, the 5D's image quality is FAR lower.
Outside the SD10 does a nice job pixel by pixel. Fewer pixels is a
big processing speed advantage.

In low available light the 1 is the best dSLR even pixel for pixel.
DPP RAW color in low light exceeds real life. The 5D is close but
not a perfect match to 1 quality color. 13MP raises the 5D to 1D
low light noise performance. If you reduce a 5D picture to 3MP low
light 1600 is close to 100.

The SD10 is noisy fuzzy and goes color blind in low light. Indoor
pictures are the worst I've seen from a digital SLR. These cameras
don't compare.

I'm not a Nikon user but I usually prefer Canon color and noise to
the Sony versions. Even so the D2X can take a good picture inside.
--
Laurence

My idea of good company is the fellowship of clever, well-informed
people, who have a great deal of conversation and liberality of
ideas.

Jane Austen

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/root
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/root
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd10
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd9
http://www.beachbriss.com
 
Funny story, Ole, I almost believed you! I was thinking of never talking to you again! ;-)
H.
Hi Frits, I had to do something to get you out of the bush or
whereever you were. Did you see my golden eagle shot. It was a pair
of eagles circling over Roskilde yesterday.... And about the 5D:
it's an expensive camera, so it's got to be good, right :-) (kryds
fingre)

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
It wasn´t nessescary to got o such extremes ... to get me out of
the bush...

If i understand you corectly , you got rid of that monstrocity (5D)
again ???
Yes i saw your eagle ... am i jealous ?.... hmmm , no comment :)
Frits, come on now ... would I ever tell white lies? would I ever
get a 5D, no I wouldn't but I tried to work through a buy in
fiction form, to remove any temptations:-) Is this thread as many
others threads by Sharpvision silly and probably a troll-thread?
Are some of us tired of this long line of stupid comparisons,
comparisons, comparisons? Does it bring anything interesting: NO!
I actually thought you were overworking to save for the SD14 + DP!;
would be sensible. Is that Canonprinter expensive in inks, by the
way?

Ole
--
http://www.pbase.com/thofte
--
http://www.pbase.com/halldore/
 
I sold my SD10 when I purchased the Canon 5D.

Couple of reasons.

1. I wasn't using it mainly because of number 2.

2. The 5D handling is far better than the SD10.

3. Data writing to the card is much faster, which means my clients
don't have to wait too long to have a quick preview.

4. Canon's future is certain where as Sigma just took too long to
anounce their new model and I couldn't afford to wait any longer.

5. Image qaulity is more than good enough for my work and I can
easily produce 24" * 36" High Quality Prints.

The Sigma however wasn't all bad, it did have that amazing image
quality which always reminded me of 35mm Slides. Which I like a lot.
IQ was better than it was given credit. All 10MP dSLRs look like slides at 3MP. SD10 ISO 100 IQ was first for the price.
I hope the SD14 does well and Sigma carry producing newer models, I
may come back one day. I will certainly take a look at the SD14
when its out.
Did you keep your Sigma lenses? Would you buy the whole system again? More people would try Sigma if the system wasn't so expensive after recapture. A 10MP C or N is cheaper to buy and own. Sigma could fix most of that with a better mount.
 

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