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I have only had my G7 for a couple days and have been learning the camera so far. This is my 3rd "G" camera. The G1 was a dream for its time, the G5 was also wonderful but the G7 is the best of all. I had read several negative posts on the G7 and other than not having Raw and the flip LCD the G7 will be the best "G" so far by far. Much smaller, lighter and faster than the other two. A great street camera for sure. The Images are sharp and the meter system is right on. It takes a little work to get all the functions straight but the possibilities are endless.

I leave Friday for a week in New York City with my 5D and the G7. I will probably use the G7 most of the time. I will report on the G7 and my trip when I get back.

Scott
 
Thank's I am waiting right now for the UPS man. I will be looking for your coments after the NY trip. Did you notice my post about the Lenmar battery charger for the G7 battery?
 
Scott R Squires said:
I have only had my G7 for a couple days and have been learning the
camera so far. This is my 3rd "G" camera. The G1 was a dream for
its time, the G5 was also wonderful but the G7 is the best of all.
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I have used a G1 but quickly got the G2 when it came out. After the G2 I went to the 300D DSLR and forgot about the G series for awhile. I have to admit the G7 has me interested in the G series again. I especially like its compact and rectangular shape. That LCD is great, large and sharp enough for me. The camera is black which adds to its compact look. Really useful ISO dial instead of going thru menus.
Scott R Squires said:
I had read several negative posts on the G7 and other than not
having Raw and the flip LCD the G7 will be the best "G" so far by
far.
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I can live without RAW and twisting LCD.
Scott R Squires said:
Much smaller, lighter and faster than the other two. A great
street camera for sure. The Images are sharp and the meter system
is right on. It takes a little work to get all the functions
straight but the possibilities are endless.
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Scott R Squires said:
I leave Friday for a week in New York City with my 5D and the G7. I
will probably use the G7 most of the time. I will report on the G7
and my trip when I get back.
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Enjoy your trip and let us know how you made out with the G7. I should have a G7 sometime next week.
Scott R Squires said:
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Scott R Squires said:
I have only had my G7 for a couple days and have been learning the
camera so far. This is my 3rd "G" camera. The G1 was a dream for
its time, the G5 was also wonderful but the G7 is the best of all.
I had read several negative posts on the G7 and other than not
having Raw and the flip LCD the G7 will be the best "G" so far by
far.
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...even though it's also missing all that you've described as well as the fast 2.0 lens and has a short battery life? Nah, this is not only not the best G ever, it's not even a G at all.

Jim
XT, REAL G2, S410, F30
 
Not a G at all? Which part of G7 don't you understand?

Canon never said F2.0 (or RAW for the matter) is a requirement in the G series - indeed, this latest incarnation has a slower F2.8. It seems some people are quite stubborn.
I'm definitely considering the G7 as an easy carry-around alternative to my 5D.
 
Lay Lo May said:
Not a G at all? Which part of G7 don't you understand?
Canon never said F2.0 (or RAW for the matter) is a requirement in
the G series - indeed, this latest incarnation has a slower F2.8.
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Has Canon said ANYTHING about what are the requirements for the G series. I guess not, so you're correct, Canon never said F2.0 (or RAW for the matter) is a requirement.

--mamallama
 
Lay Lo May said:
Not a G at all? Which part of G7 don't you understand?
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The part that left off the swivel LCD, 2.0 lens, RAW support and the fact that it's really an A series camera with a hot shoe that their trying to bilk people out of $600 for. Other than those issues it's crystal clear.

Jim
XT, REAL G2, S410, F30
 
mamallama said:
Lay Lo May said:
Not a G at all? Which part of G7 don't you understand?
Canon never said F2.0 (or RAW for the matter) is a requirement in
the G series - indeed, this latest incarnation has a slower F2.8.
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Has Canon said ANYTHING about what are the requirements for the G
series. I guess not, so you're correct, Canon never said F2.0 (or
RAW for the matter) is a requirement.
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True. So just think of the G7 as a feature-challenged G6 with unwanted additional MP's. Enjoy.

Jim
 
RAW and swivel screen....again and again? Yeesh!

If anyone takes the time to read the G7 manual (someone posted a link, can't fine that thread at the moment), they can see there is so much more to the G7 than just 10mp resolution, lack of a swivel screen and no RAW. Are the 5D and 1DsmkII bad cameras because they lack a swivel screen? There is not another pocketable camera with such a complete feature set and robust build as the G7 has right now. Oh, lack of f2, but a nice travel-range of 35-210mm with f2.8 at the wide end. So why all the talk that f2.8 is considered not good enough for P&S users while in the DSLR forums f2.8 lens speed is outstanding? LMAO.

The G7 seems to make an excellent alternative to carrying a DSLR considering the amount of control (focus points, exposure, custom-set white balance, voice memo recording, useable high-iso, etc.). My rather anal friend is using his new G7 on an overseas vacation instead of his 1DsmkII and accompanying lenses. After his rave review of its performance so far, I'll definitely pick it to retire my S70 from P&S duty when it's time.
 
bwbrock said:
RAW and swivel screen....again and again? Yeesh!
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There is more to it, much more…
bwbrock said:
screen and no RAW. Are the 5D and 1DsmkII bad cameras because they
lack a swivel screen?
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Irrelevant, they would have very little if any real benefit from tilt & swivel TFT-display.
bwbrock said:
with f2.8 at the wide end. So why all the talk that f2.8 is
considered not good enough for P&S users while in the DSLR forums
f2.8 lens speed is outstanding? LMAO.
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The f-numbers' true meaning is really different in DSLRs and P&S cameras, meaningless to compare directly. With an f2.8 lens in a DSLR one can do everything what an f2.0 P&S camera could do, and much, much more, even have the same DOF reach. So no need to laugh your ass off.

-Virvatulet
 
Jim said:
...even though it's also missing all that you've described as well
as the fast 2.0 lens and has a short battery life? Nah, this is not
only not the best G ever, it's not even a G at all.
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Since I have never seen a definition of a 'G camera' I do not know whether you are right or wrong (where does this definition exist?), however I do know that the G7 is the first 'G camera' that I have wanted to buy. In particular I found all the previous Gs to be too slow, with less than impressive handling and too large to use as a pocket camera. In contrast the G7 looks to be near perfect.

Personally, I am not too bothered about the absence of raw (I do shoot raw with my DSLRs but have no desire to do so with the G7), nor the absence of the movable LCD (I would rather not have it and have a slightly thinner camera). I agree that a faster lens would have been nice. The feature that I most regret Canon dropping is the remote control - is there any way of using a remote control (wired or wireless) with the G7?

Terry.
 
Are you aware of the history of the G series.
 
Its a G7 therefore it must be a G camera no matter what it's feature set is. I don't see a label on the camera calling it a A7, B7, D7, E7, and so on. It's a G7.
 
I see that many people have commented on the G7. As far as only having an F2.8 lens, my Canon "L" zoom lenses are F2.8 and work fine. With a digital camera the ability to change ISO on the fly really makes a 2/3 stop slower lens a mute point. As far as battery life, anyone using a camera with a battery should always carry a spare anyway and the G7 battery is small. If a photographer needs Raw then use an SLR.

If a photographer is seriuos about his Images he uses an SLR camera along with quality lenses. The G7 is a P&S and P&S's are really just expensive toys that take pictures! They are designed to fit in your pocket or purse and are easy to carry and use. The high end P&S cameras are capable of taking very good pictures and the G7 will do that and allows the user a great deal of input.

Will the G7 be the best or worse "G" todate? People will debate that as they debate everything else. One thing about digital cameras is that there are hundreds of cameras to choose from. If you don't like the G7 buy one you like!

Scott

Scott
 
Virvatulet said:
The f-numbers' true meaning is really different in DSLRs and P&S
cameras, meaningless to compare directly. With an f2.8 lens in a
DSLR one can do everything what an f2.0 P&S camera could do, and
much, much more, even have the same DOF reach. So no need to laugh
your ass off.

-Virvatulet
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What? F2.8 isn't f2.8 because the two camera designs are different? An f2.8 in a P&S = f2.8 in a DSLR? That's a new one. I've only been shooting for 25 years, so I'm not as knowledgeable as some, but I DO know that f2.8 + 1/x-shuter speed on a MF back gives the same exposure as any other camera set at f2.8 + 1/x shutter speed; that means a flim SLR, a DSLR and a P&S. You might be referring to the effects of how much DOF one gets at f2.8 in a P&S vs a DSLR or a MF back?

I still like poking fun at how the G7 is getting picked on because it doesn't have all that a DSLR has and isn't as tiny as other cameras while people miss how rich the G7s feature set is.
 
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