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Recently, the reviews of Panasonic DCs were not very encouraging, but a weekly computer and AV weekly magazine (PC magazine 31/10/2006 issue)

There are many weekly or biweekly magazines with rich digital cameras contents, it is one of the best and trust worthy.

They had conducted a relatively detailed reviews of some 28mm P & S. Since it is a weekly magazine, so do not expect great in depth testings.

It is comparison of FX07 with Canon Digital IXUS 850IS, Olympus FE-200 and Ricoh Caplio R5

TEST #1 Imatest (Distortion) at 28mm wide angle end. 0% for no distortion.
IXUS 850IS : -1.98%
FE-200 : -2.25%
FX07 : -0.855% ----------- Win
R5 : -1.26%

TEST #2 Imatest (Colorcheck), GretagMacbeth ColorChecker used
IXUS 850 IS : Canon test sample experienced some exposure problems
so its Mean Camera Saturation was only 86.31%
FE-200 : 106.5%
FX07 : 121.3% ----------- Win
R5 : 115.9%

TEST #3 Imatest (SFR) 28mm wide angle end, iso100, iso12233 resolution chart

Upper Center :
IXUS850 : 1239LW/PH
FE-200 : 1274LW/PH
FX07 : 1698LW/PH --------- WIN
R5 : 1429LW/PH

Magazine Comment : Although there were numerical difference but visual inspection indicate small difference.

Edge Areas:
IXUS 850IS : 658LW/PH
FE-200 : 595.4LW/PH
FX07 : 769.5LW/PH ----------- WIN
R5 : 317.1LW/PH
Magazine Comment : R5 has the longest zoom range, that explains something.

TEST #4 Imatest (Colorcheck), GretagMacbeth ColorChecker used
FX07 again won in this test for having stable ISO vs noise performance
Magazine believe it had some thing to do with the Venus Engine III

FE-200 could not set iso manually, so only iso125 was tested, but I found the iso125 sample very nice.

Conclusion : FX07 has good lens, less distortion, OIS and 16:9 and is the newest to reach the market, but it is also the most expensive one.

I hope the folks here who have brought the FX07 will be happy because of this comparison test.

To me the other 3 cameras are also nice cameras, for example the face detection of Olympus will for sure appeal to home users. The FE200 with 5X zoom has very good price performance ratio and the zoom range and low price of R5 are also great selling points. All in all, I believe the photographer is more important than the camera.

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Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
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Thanks Dany,

Very encouraging after just about everybody else has slammed this camera. I just bought it and am very please so far. It is about time it got the credit it deserves.

Do you have a link to the review on-line?

Thaniks
 
tsturbo said:
Thanks Dany,

Very encouraging after just about everybody else has slammed this
camera. I just bought it and am very please so far. It is about
time it got the credit it deserves.

Do you have a link to the review on-line?
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Sorry, I am afraid there is no online review from this magazine, the online business model does not work too well in HK. Magazines are inexpensive, save time, no need to download, even most of all us use broadband already. I had to spend about 20 minutes to copy the results from the magazine, double checked 3 times:-) I hope I did not make any typo errors.

Personally, I do not care much about reviews ratings. To me, recommeded and Highly Recommended ratings really make no difference to me, but after seeing so many (slightly) negative reviews on latest Panasonic product (problems with adding many pixels to the same sensors) , I felt sorry for the folls who have brought the latest FZ50, LX2 and FX07. Some may not care much, some will care and may become over defensive over the Panasonic DCs, which I think is bad for the image of this forum. I also own a Fuji F30, I like the civic responds of most of the posters there when facing drive-by trolling there.

I hope this review with quantified test results will let the FX07 users understand they had made no purchase mistakes and the numerical results are good for defending the FX07 from drive-by trolling, so there is no need to rely on emotional words for defends. Most of all, it is the BEST 28mm P & S in the market today.

The FX07 is selling very well in HK.

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Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
http://photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly
 
I purchased the FX50 a few days ago, which is basically the same camera as the FX07 with a larger LCD and so far I'm satisfied with most every aspect of the camera........optics ( OBVIOUSLY ), features, ergonomics, build quality and for the most part the IQ, except for low light noise without the flash.

However, I posted a few pictures and barely got any feedback ............ perhaps they weren't appreciated and in-lieu of being rude, they chose to say nothing at all, nevertheless left me scratching my head, lol. That said, when I spoke of getting the FX50, a few here seemed to express interest and were awaiting some photos. Oh well..........

BTW, thanks for that review............appreciated and encouraging, in light of other more negative reviews posted a few weeks ago.

Regards
Roger
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If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody......
 
WinGsor said:
I purchased the FX50 a few days ago, which is basically the same
camera as the FX07 with a larger LCD and so far I'm satisfied with
most every aspect of the camera........optics ( OBVIOUSLY ),
features, ergonomics, build quality and for the most part the IQ,
except for low light noise without the flash.
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FX50 and FX07 are similar cameras, the test should apply to FX50.
WinGsor said:
However, I posted a few pictures and barely got any feedback
............ perhaps they weren't appreciated and in-lieu of being
rude, they chose to say nothing at all, nevertheless left me
scratching my head, lol. That said, when I spoke of getting the
FX50, a few here seemed to express interest and were awaiting some
photos. Oh well..........
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About not getting much feedback, it is common here on forums, don't take it serious. Keep posting without getting discouraged. It didn't feel good of course (we called it 'Hot-Face-Pressed-Against-Cold-A$$' here. I experienced it a lot:-)). I think some posters might have already gained from your posted pics, it is an internet world, so they may not give their personal thanks directly on the net. I am sure you had helped some people already.
WinGsor said:
BTW, thanks for that review............appreciated and encouraging,
in light of other more negative reviews posted a few weeks ago.
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I hope the review can provide a temporary encouragement to FX01/FX07/FX50 users and aid to defend us from trolling. I believe, soon other reviews will indicate they are good cameras.
WinGsor said:
Regards
Roger
--
If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met
everybody......
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Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
http://photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly
 
My believe is Panasonic digital cameras are great cameras, they can produce very excellent results, it may not perform too well in low light, but they are almost the perfect cameras (I also say this in the Fuji Forum, but the folks there are kind and civic, healthy discussion is possible, apart from high iso performance, I also talk about the virtues of OIS, fast lens and ergonomic controls there). I hope on top of the wonderful FX07 pics posted here, the numerical test results of this FX07 review are also good proof of FX07 performance.

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Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
http://photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly
 
nice comparison Danny ! I will be in Hong Kong next week.
If you feel comfortable you can drop me a cell phone #
in my email, so if time permit, I can give you a call or
even meet for a "0.5 coffee + 0.5 milk tea". haha :)

for FX07, I see this sample here, (big file), not impressive to my taste,
sorry to say.

http://www.pbase.com/staci/image/66489583

his gallery has a lot of pictures, but the details are all wiped out and
oil-painting looking ... :(

alien
danny_only said:
P & S.

Recently, the reviews of Panasonic DCs were not very encouraging,
but a weekly computer and AV weekly magazine (PC magazine
31/10/2006 issue)
There are many weekly or biweekly magazines with rich digital
cameras contents, it is one of the best and trust worthy.

They had conducted a relatively detailed reviews of some 28mm P &
S. Since it is a weekly magazine, so do not expect great in depth
testings.

It is comparison of FX07 with Canon Digital IXUS 850IS, Olympus
FE-200 and Ricoh Caplio R5

TEST #1 Imatest (Distortion) at 28mm wide angle end. 0% for no
distortion.
IXUS 850IS : -1.98%
FE-200 : -2.25%
FX07 : -0.855% ----------- Win
R5 : -1.26%

TEST #2 Imatest (Colorcheck), GretagMacbeth ColorChecker used
IXUS 850 IS : Canon test sample experienced some exposure problems
so its Mean Camera Saturation was only 86.31%
FE-200 : 106.5%
FX07 : 121.3% ----------- Win
R5 : 115.9%

TEST #3 Imatest (SFR) 28mm wide angle end, iso100, iso12233
resolution chart

Upper Center :
IXUS850 : 1239LW/PH
FE-200 : 1274LW/PH
FX07 : 1698LW/PH --------- WIN
R5 : 1429LW/PH
Magazine Comment : Although there were numerical difference but
visual inspection indicate small difference.

Edge Areas:
IXUS 850IS : 658LW/PH
FE-200 : 595.4LW/PH
FX07 : 769.5LW/PH ----------- WIN
R5 : 317.1LW/PH
Magazine Comment : R5 has the longest zoom range, that explains
something.

TEST #4 Imatest (Colorcheck), GretagMacbeth ColorChecker used
FX07 again won in this test for having stable ISO vs noise performance
Magazine believe it had some thing to do with the Venus Engine III
FE-200 could not set iso manually, so only iso125 was tested, but I
found the iso125 sample very nice.

Conclusion : FX07 has good lens, less distortion, OIS and 16:9 and
is the newest to reach the market, but it is also the most
expensive one.

I hope the folks here who have brought the FX07 will be happy
because of this comparison test.

To me the other 3 cameras are also nice cameras, for example the
face detection of Olympus will for sure appeal to home users. The
FE200 with 5X zoom has very good price performance ratio and the
zoom range and low price of R5 are also great selling points. All
in all, I believe the photographer is more important than the
camera.

--
Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
http://photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly
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alien3333 said:
nice comparison Danny ! I will be in Hong Kong next week.
If you feel comfortable you can drop me a cell phone #
in my email, so if time permit, I can give you a call or
even meet for a "0.5 coffee + 0.5 milk tea". haha :)

for FX07, I see this sample here, (big file), not impressive to my
taste,
sorry to say.

http://www.pbase.com/staci/image/66489583

his gallery has a lot of pictures, but the details are all wiped
out and oil-painting looking ... :(
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Okay, just give me your email address and I can give you my cell phone #,

After showing you where to buy your Canon DSLR, we can have 'Yin-Yeung'- Coffee + Tea mix drink and Pineapple Buns together.

FX07 is targeted mainly to the home users, most prints will be at most 5" x 7", when printed most users will hardly notice. I had made 4" x 6" from a Fuji F30 iso1600 pic taken inside a bus at night, it looked like oil painting when zoomed 100%, but after denoise and printed, I still have an acceptable to good picture, most of my family members found it okay. I could see details of small characters about 8ft from me. So oil painting pics may not be a problem when printed.

I was a little surprise to see the FX07 iso-noise performance was better than the Canon, at first I thought Canon was better. The Olympus FE-200 had no manual ISO control, but judging from the iso125 it was also very good. Anyway, the FX07 is currently the best 28mm P & S for home users, I guess.

BR,

Danny
 
@WinGsor

Saw your pics and like them very much :-)

As you might know, I'm also quite satisfied with my FX07.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/boersenbalou

Please continue posting your FX50 pics - so we are able to convince people how great this littke wide angle P&S can be :-)

Best regards
Markus

btw: in different german print foto magazines the FX07 has outperformed the FX01 and all other 28mm sub compacts too
 
Looks like the FX07 is a winner. I know the people here who have the FX01 really like it. I looked at one in the store last week. Nice size. Probably the best little camera to pack with you when you want to travel really light.
 
I also went to a computer/av products mall this afternoon, the FX01 was selling at only US$254, small and tempting.

Recently, I am interested in Hiking, I found my F30 and all my Panny were not wide enough, I do have a Ricoh G4W, but it was hard to use under bright sun, I have a LCD shade (not collapsable) troublesome to bring along to hiking.

Do you have any LX? Great for lanscape, I guess.

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Best Regards,

Danny



My Albums
http://photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly
 
Thanks for the encouragement, Markus............I will post more.

It's also good to hear that German magazines speak so highly of the FX07/FX50.

Regards

Roger
--
If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody......
 
[email protected], Danny, it is in my profile, sorry :)
yes, I agree on fx07, the new set of Canon sensor is quite noisy,
that include the 400D, sucks.

alien :)
danny_only said:
alien3333 said:
nice comparison Danny ! I will be in Hong Kong next week.
If you feel comfortable you can drop me a cell phone #
in my email, so if time permit, I can give you a call or
even meet for a "0.5 coffee + 0.5 milk tea". haha :)

for FX07, I see this sample here, (big file), not impressive to my
taste,
sorry to say.

http://www.pbase.com/staci/image/66489583

his gallery has a lot of pictures, but the details are all wiped
out and oil-painting looking ... :(
Click to expand...
Okay, just give me your email address and I can give you my cell
phone #,
After showing you where to buy your Canon DSLR, we can have
'Yin-Yeung'- Coffee + Tea mix drink and Pineapple Buns together.

FX07 is targeted mainly to the home users, most prints will be at
most 5" x 7", when printed most users will hardly notice. I had
made 4" x 6" from a Fuji F30 iso1600 pic taken inside a bus at
night, it looked like oil painting when zoomed 100%, but after
denoise and printed, I still have an acceptable to good picture,
most of my family members found it okay. I could see details of
small characters about 8ft from me. So oil painting pics may not be
a problem when printed.

I was a little surprise to see the FX07 iso-noise performance was
better than the Canon, at first I thought Canon was better. The
Olympus FE-200 had no manual ISO control, but judging from the
iso125 it was also very good. Anyway, the FX07 is currently the
best 28mm P & S for home users, I guess.

BR,

Danny
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danny_only said:
alien3333 said:
his gallery has a lot of pictures, but the details are all wiped
out and oil-painting looking ... :(
Click to expand...
FX07 is targeted mainly to the home users, most prints will be at
most 5" x 7", when printed most users will hardly notice. I had
So oil painting pics may not be
a problem when printed.
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I use it as a secondary camera. It takes fantanstic movies compared to my rebel ;-) and fits in my purse without needing a second bag. Sure 100% is bad, but websized and regular prints look good. The tiny camera just doesnt work in all situations. Thats the compromise.



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http://www.pbase.com/staci
 
Thanks for the comparison numbers and specs. I wanted the FX07 since it was introduced for the 28mm but held off because of no optical finder. Then the SD800/850 came out and I was tempted last week to buy it but am now back on the fence for the FX07.

Do you all find the absence of the optical viewfinder workable? I suspect I might have to change my preference for using a viewfinder as most all digital cams are going that way.

--

 
I used to be a diehard optical viewfinder and I find that my FX01 that I just recently brought as a pocket backup to my Nikon DSLR to work quite well. The LCD has a special bright mode that helps in bright sunlight and even another option to engage the high angle viewing on the LCD. This helps to reduce the disadvantages of using a LCD.

While I like to use the optical viewfinder instead of the LCD on bigger cameras but on small cameras it is a disadvantage since everything is so small looking into the optical viewfinder. Try looking at some Cannon small cameras that have a optical viewfinder and it is just wasted space in my option.
 
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